[ArizonaHeat] chocolaterv nothin. all is quiet on my end. seems all the other intel providers were hot and heavy on last night, ummmmm anyway rofl
[greyhawk] ArizonaHeat do you know if the tariffs are in effect and that the hcl is truely done?
[ArizonaHeat] greyhawk i know art 140 was implimented. not sure if the HCL is 100% done, i do know that Exxon pulled its drilling out of the Kurdish area, and that the kurds are planning thier own pipeline to deliver oil, that isnt going over too well with the Iraqi leaders
[Osthaffn] ArizonaHeat there seems to be 3 different circles of "intel" folks - 1) newshounds, 2) conspiracy theorists, and 3) middleground .... do you think that's a fair assessment?
[ArizonaHeat] Osthaffn you know, the intel providers are all different, im more of a (need official documentation) kind of guy, i dont believe any news coming out of Iraq, evryone was saying (maliki was out) and that never happened, so its tuff to say whats right and wrong, i dont fell anyone has the inside scoop, i do know DinarWishes and BWM have GREAT contacts, so i listen to them a lot
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[greyhawk] ArizonaHeat do you know if the tariffs are in effect and that the hcl is truely done?
[ArizonaHeat] greyhawk i know art 140 was implimented. not sure if the HCL is 100% done, i do know that Exxon pulled its drilling out of the Kurdish area, and that the kurds are planning thier own pipeline to deliver oil, that isnt going over too well with the Iraqi leaders
[Osthaffn] ArizonaHeat there seems to be 3 different circles of "intel" folks - 1) newshounds, 2) conspiracy theorists, and 3) middleground .... do you think that's a fair assessment?
[ArizonaHeat] Osthaffn you know, the intel providers are all different, im more of a (need official documentation) kind of guy, i dont believe any news coming out of Iraq, evryone was saying (maliki was out) and that never happened, so its tuff to say whats right and wrong, i dont fell anyone has the inside scoop, i do know DinarWishes and BWM have GREAT contacts, so i listen to them a lot
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[greyhawk] ArizonaHeat wow--guess that did tick off the rest of them. Exxon probably don't like it much.
[ArizonaHeat] greyhawk ya, thats why there is alot of turmoil, kurds want to do things on thier own and Bahgdad wants none of that
[ArizonaHeat] DinarWishes how are you this morning? you have any news for us this morning, or is all quiet?
[DinarWishes] Well I must say last night was a bit interesting with what happened to the metals market yesterday and the Banks (all but WellsFargo ) were downgraded...... Bank screens were doing some un-usual things late last night.... I am speculating here, but with that happening I know it puts pressure on the "SYSTEM" to ratify quickly... Nobody knows when this is to happen, and in the wake of turmoil it starts to look bleak.... I feel it will look even worse before it starts to look better.... it is just my oppinion....
[ArizonaHeat] DinarWishes very good point, seems the markets along with the downgrades are pushing things to the limit, this may very well push things right along
[ArizonaHeat] DinarWishes with the BIS saying that they signed off (as they do every quarter) on thier audit seems that the end of this quarter (june 2012) seems like a great window, what do you think?
[DinarWishes] ArizonaHeat one would think the pressure is starting to really build for some kind of movement.... Now I know alot of people are saying this person or that person has gone to Reno and cashed out.... This is untrue.... You may ask " how do you know???". Because I know the people there waiting.....
[ArizonaHeat] I dont put a whole lot of merit on the Reno situation, ill wait for a bank and to make sure everything is on the up and up
[DinarWishes] ArizonaHeat I think this quarter is one of the best Ive ever seen.... Markets are going crazy... Precious metals and oil and all of the "Assets" are getting ready to rebound and rebound hard.... Hmmm why do you think that is ArizonaHeat???
[DinarWishes] ArizonaHeat I agree with the Reno situation.... I want to see it in Black and White!!!!
[DinarWishes] or Green
[ArizonaHeat] DinarWishes seems to me that the market would benifit tanking then rebounding with new currency values from several different countries, not just the rv for iraq, but several adjustments to several other currencies
[DinarWishes] I agree with that 100%
[ArizonaHeat] DinarWishes as far The IMF, ive heard (wink) that they have also agreed to several different adjustments and rv of currencies, i just cant see all this happening without a dramatic end
[ArizonaHeat] LibbytheLab action was past due two years ago, this is WAY past due
[DinarWishes] I know you guys have probly been asking why I havent been here.... Well there hasnt been anything to say... I love reporting from the NO HYPE ZONE!!! We dont need a bunch of cheerleaders to make us have false hopes.... I dont work that way.... NOBODY and I mean NOBODY knows exactly when this will show....
[Osthaffn] DinarWishes ArizonaHeat what are both of your opinions on the conspiracy angle that says the Fed is going away, that UST will issue its own notes, and "Drake's" talk of a pseudo-military coup to "restore" America?
[DinarWishes] Osthaffn Well lets look at Facts.....
[DinarWishes] Osthaffn We are at the present a country who's monitary system isnt backed by anything right???.
[ArizonaHeat] DinarWishes WHAT, you dont know, so your saying you just have some great contacts that point you in the right direction with quality information, not the constant BS everyone else throws out there. Im so dissaponted in you rofl rofl
[DinarWishes] Osthaffn Reserve Notes are just that.... NOTES
[DinarWishes] Osthaffn A promise to pay
[ArizonaHeat] steady1 one thing, Ive never seen the metals and the markets, all of the market accross the board tank all at the same time
[ArizonaHeat] metals have tanked, currencies have tanked, oil has tanked, banks are downgraded,
[ArizonaHeat] steady1 for me that points tword a reset
[ArizonaHeat] steady1 for me that points tword a reset
[ArizonaHeat] that is of my opinion
[DinarWishes] Osthaffn Basil III mandates an asset based currency... So yes I feel we will transition over a period of time to a new currency and the Treasury Certificates are the best way to accomplish it.... And yes I have seen pictures of the new Certificates...
[ArizonaHeat] the only this to gain is the US dollar, and what do all foreign currencies base thier value off of? the US dollar
[DinarWishes] Thats Right
[DinarWishes] Osthaffn NOW, having said that... throw out the Civil unrest and Marshal law garbage....
[DinarWishes] RidgeRatCmdr its the law of strength in numbers
[DinarWishes] its like what they did with the euro but everyone will keep their own currency
[RidgeRatCmdr] I guess I'm misunderstanding what you typed...sorry
[DinarWishes] RidgeRatCmdr it will be a paring of Currency for a more stable economy in each region of the world
[DinarWishes] RidgeRatCmdr it will be a paring of Currency for a more stable economy in each region of the world
[ArizonaHeat] DinarWishes im still looking for the petro dollar to be wide spead even though its also paired off of the US dollar
[DinarWishes] ok look at it like this..... if your gonna move do you want to do it alone or have 4 friends to help???
[steady1] Arizona Heat please excuse my lack of knowledge...just curious...if our govt knows that there are tens of thousands of us holding dinar, could they have the power to delay this event just to keep us in the middle class instead of the 1% wealthy? Sorry if that's a stupid question
[ArizonaHeat] steady1 never a stupid question, we as dinar holders are a grain of sand at the beach in the grand scheme of things we are not even on the radar
[Osthaffn] DinarWishes aaaah, but you never TRULY know who your friends are, UNTIL its time to move! ;)
[ArizonaHeat] Osthaffn rofl
[greyhawk] ArizonaHeat I can't see the $ devalueing much, afterall, we feed 2/3 of the world it seems like and I would think food would be a very valuable asset. Even more so than oil. Am I wrong?
[DinarWishes] greyhawk not entirely.....
[Skyman] greyhawk IMHO we need oil to transport the food. without the oil, our food goes no where..
[ArizonaHeat] oil production is manipulated every day, we have billions of oil reserves we have never tapped into, oil is the worlds economy
[ArizonaHeat] LibbytheLab and we dont need to thats the sad part
[LibbytheLab] Our food production still feeds the world. Farmers are the Greatest
[ArizonaHeat] ask DW he lioves in the heart of oil production
[greyhawk] ArizonaHeat That's a fact!!
[DinarWishes] ok Look, here is why we use other oil.... because some day it will run out....
[ArizonaHeat] DinarWishes one point i want you to touch on: im just pointing something out folks, dont trip, it seems that all of the quality intel providers are on one agreement, that all the major points for a revaluation are, end of June, End of September, and the end of December, all are the ends of the quarters that the BIS signs off on with Iraq. what are your thoughts
[ArizonaHeat] all the other goofys that say ASN dont count rofl
[DinarWishes] The oil from overseas is buried in sand right??? well they use sand to prefilter the oil they bring out of the ground here.... its a better quality oil in the sandbox than what we have here in the swamps.... easyer to get, cleaner, cheaper to bring it over than to drill for it ourselves.... You only need to process it once compaired to the 4 times you have to "crack" Texas crude.... So yes we will continue to use other oil than our own.... its just smart business
[DinarWishes] ArizonaHeat My oppinion is that it is in the best window as it sits now.... if it goes past June I wont be looking for it till December....
[ArizonaHeat] DinarWishes very very good point, i remember my uncle telling me that, he worked for Shell for years out of the martinez Ca processing plant
[DinarWishes] RidgeRatCmdr Fracking is when they pump sand to the bottom of the well under great pressure so I can see why that would register on a scale
[dietcokeandice] DinarWishes Is this the same thought with regards of the VND--best window now if not December
[DinarWishes] dietcokeandice VND is IMO linked with the IQD or we would have seen it already
[averysgrampa] DinarWishes Do you think the odds are with us at this point before the end of june?. (i appologize im having server issues and am trying to catch up, sorry if this has been asked)
[DinarWishes] averysgrampa you know I dont do Dates/Rates... It will happen when it happens.... Welcome to the NO HYPE ZONE
[DinarWishes] LibbytheLab Mud in the oil is still mud in the oil....
[DinarWishes] Im not saying it couldnt happen on the 4th of July..... Im just saying they have shown a pattern of every 6 months.... Remember last year this time all the intel around the 30th of June??? Then again In December?? Thats why I say that
[dietcokeandice] DinarWishes How iyo will it show any time of day--wake up bank show and email mail out how?
[DinarWishes] dietcokeandice Ive always felt that banks will be all closed or all open here in the US... because we are in the drivers seat....
[ArizonaHeat] Gnarz whats the Buzz in germany on the euro
[ArizonaHeat] Gnarz whats the Buzz in germany on the euro
[greyhawk] Gnarz highfive
[DinarWishes] RidgeRatCmdr its amazing to me how everyone has taken so many little things and made them RV related...
[DinarWishes] RidgeRatCmdr its amazing to me how everyone has taken so many little things and made them RV relate
[DinarWishes] When you have a hammer EVERYTHING looks like a naild...
[averysgrampa] DinarWishes Im sorry i wanst asking a date or rate at all i know better than that i was just curious about what you thought the percentage was in your mind of this happeneing before the end of june so anyways sorry didnt mean to aggrevate ya :D
[DinarWishes] kord I didnt say September.... ArizonaHeat did
[Gnarz] ArizonaHeat oh my a never ending story
[DinarWishes] averysgrampa no worries.... I think we are in the best place we could be...
[Gnarz] ArizonaHeat so slow it is tight for Mrs. Merkel. Yesterday, the failure of the law by our presidents. The air is thin
[ArizonaHeat] Gnarz yikes
[ArizonaHeat] ok imout ya'll take care
[DinarWishes] RidgeRatCmdr There was a time I was in my Garage and I was looking for something and I was so frustrated that I couldnt find it.... My Father being the wize man he is told me to get up on a bucket.... I asked why?? He said Get on the Dang bucket and look... So I did.... sure enough I saw what I was looking for.... What happened???? I was taken out of my blind rage looking so hard for something right in front of me... It was a change in perspective.... It was a great lesson....
[ArizonaHeat] greyhawk ya, thats why there is alot of turmoil, kurds want to do things on thier own and Bahgdad wants none of that
[ArizonaHeat] DinarWishes how are you this morning? you have any news for us this morning, or is all quiet?
[DinarWishes] Well I must say last night was a bit interesting with what happened to the metals market yesterday and the Banks (all but WellsFargo ) were downgraded...... Bank screens were doing some un-usual things late last night.... I am speculating here, but with that happening I know it puts pressure on the "SYSTEM" to ratify quickly... Nobody knows when this is to happen, and in the wake of turmoil it starts to look bleak.... I feel it will look even worse before it starts to look better.... it is just my oppinion....
[ArizonaHeat] DinarWishes very good point, seems the markets along with the downgrades are pushing things to the limit, this may very well push things right along
[ArizonaHeat] DinarWishes with the BIS saying that they signed off (as they do every quarter) on thier audit seems that the end of this quarter (june 2012) seems like a great window, what do you think?
[DinarWishes] ArizonaHeat one would think the pressure is starting to really build for some kind of movement.... Now I know alot of people are saying this person or that person has gone to Reno and cashed out.... This is untrue.... You may ask " how do you know???". Because I know the people there waiting.....
[ArizonaHeat] I dont put a whole lot of merit on the Reno situation, ill wait for a bank and to make sure everything is on the up and up
[DinarWishes] ArizonaHeat I think this quarter is one of the best Ive ever seen.... Markets are going crazy... Precious metals and oil and all of the "Assets" are getting ready to rebound and rebound hard.... Hmmm why do you think that is ArizonaHeat???
[DinarWishes] ArizonaHeat I agree with the Reno situation.... I want to see it in Black and White!!!!
[DinarWishes] or Green
[ArizonaHeat] DinarWishes seems to me that the market would benifit tanking then rebounding with new currency values from several different countries, not just the rv for iraq, but several adjustments to several other currencies
[DinarWishes] I agree with that 100%
[ArizonaHeat] DinarWishes as far The IMF, ive heard (wink) that they have also agreed to several different adjustments and rv of currencies, i just cant see all this happening without a dramatic end
[ArizonaHeat] LibbytheLab action was past due two years ago, this is WAY past due
[DinarWishes] I know you guys have probly been asking why I havent been here.... Well there hasnt been anything to say... I love reporting from the NO HYPE ZONE!!! We dont need a bunch of cheerleaders to make us have false hopes.... I dont work that way.... NOBODY and I mean NOBODY knows exactly when this will show....
[Osthaffn] DinarWishes ArizonaHeat what are both of your opinions on the conspiracy angle that says the Fed is going away, that UST will issue its own notes, and "Drake's" talk of a pseudo-military coup to "restore" America?
[DinarWishes] Osthaffn Well lets look at Facts.....
[DinarWishes] Osthaffn We are at the present a country who's monitary system isnt backed by anything right???.
[ArizonaHeat] DinarWishes WHAT, you dont know, so your saying you just have some great contacts that point you in the right direction with quality information, not the constant BS everyone else throws out there. Im so dissaponted in you rofl rofl
[DinarWishes] Osthaffn Reserve Notes are just that.... NOTES
[DinarWishes] Osthaffn A promise to pay
[ArizonaHeat] steady1 one thing, Ive never seen the metals and the markets, all of the market accross the board tank all at the same time
[ArizonaHeat] metals have tanked, currencies have tanked, oil has tanked, banks are downgraded,
[ArizonaHeat] steady1 for me that points tword a reset
[ArizonaHeat] steady1 for me that points tword a reset
[ArizonaHeat] that is of my opinion
[DinarWishes] Osthaffn Basil III mandates an asset based currency... So yes I feel we will transition over a period of time to a new currency and the Treasury Certificates are the best way to accomplish it.... And yes I have seen pictures of the new Certificates...
[ArizonaHeat] the only this to gain is the US dollar, and what do all foreign currencies base thier value off of? the US dollar
[DinarWishes] Thats Right
[DinarWishes] Osthaffn NOW, having said that... throw out the Civil unrest and Marshal law garbage....
[DinarWishes] RidgeRatCmdr its the law of strength in numbers
[DinarWishes] its like what they did with the euro but everyone will keep their own currency
[RidgeRatCmdr] I guess I'm misunderstanding what you typed...sorry
[DinarWishes] RidgeRatCmdr it will be a paring of Currency for a more stable economy in each region of the world
[DinarWishes] RidgeRatCmdr it will be a paring of Currency for a more stable economy in each region of the world
[ArizonaHeat] DinarWishes im still looking for the petro dollar to be wide spead even though its also paired off of the US dollar
[DinarWishes] ok look at it like this..... if your gonna move do you want to do it alone or have 4 friends to help???
[steady1] Arizona Heat please excuse my lack of knowledge...just curious...if our govt knows that there are tens of thousands of us holding dinar, could they have the power to delay this event just to keep us in the middle class instead of the 1% wealthy? Sorry if that's a stupid question
[ArizonaHeat] steady1 never a stupid question, we as dinar holders are a grain of sand at the beach in the grand scheme of things we are not even on the radar
[Osthaffn] DinarWishes aaaah, but you never TRULY know who your friends are, UNTIL its time to move! ;)
[ArizonaHeat] Osthaffn rofl
[greyhawk] ArizonaHeat I can't see the $ devalueing much, afterall, we feed 2/3 of the world it seems like and I would think food would be a very valuable asset. Even more so than oil. Am I wrong?
[DinarWishes] greyhawk not entirely.....
[Skyman] greyhawk IMHO we need oil to transport the food. without the oil, our food goes no where..
[ArizonaHeat] oil production is manipulated every day, we have billions of oil reserves we have never tapped into, oil is the worlds economy
[ArizonaHeat] LibbytheLab and we dont need to thats the sad part
[LibbytheLab] Our food production still feeds the world. Farmers are the Greatest
[ArizonaHeat] ask DW he lioves in the heart of oil production
[greyhawk] ArizonaHeat That's a fact!!
[DinarWishes] ok Look, here is why we use other oil.... because some day it will run out....
[ArizonaHeat] DinarWishes one point i want you to touch on: im just pointing something out folks, dont trip, it seems that all of the quality intel providers are on one agreement, that all the major points for a revaluation are, end of June, End of September, and the end of December, all are the ends of the quarters that the BIS signs off on with Iraq. what are your thoughts
[ArizonaHeat] all the other goofys that say ASN dont count rofl
[DinarWishes] The oil from overseas is buried in sand right??? well they use sand to prefilter the oil they bring out of the ground here.... its a better quality oil in the sandbox than what we have here in the swamps.... easyer to get, cleaner, cheaper to bring it over than to drill for it ourselves.... You only need to process it once compaired to the 4 times you have to "crack" Texas crude.... So yes we will continue to use other oil than our own.... its just smart business
[DinarWishes] ArizonaHeat My oppinion is that it is in the best window as it sits now.... if it goes past June I wont be looking for it till December....
[ArizonaHeat] DinarWishes very very good point, i remember my uncle telling me that, he worked for Shell for years out of the martinez Ca processing plant
[DinarWishes] RidgeRatCmdr Fracking is when they pump sand to the bottom of the well under great pressure so I can see why that would register on a scale
[dietcokeandice] DinarWishes Is this the same thought with regards of the VND--best window now if not December
[DinarWishes] dietcokeandice VND is IMO linked with the IQD or we would have seen it already
[averysgrampa] DinarWishes Do you think the odds are with us at this point before the end of june?. (i appologize im having server issues and am trying to catch up, sorry if this has been asked)
[DinarWishes] averysgrampa you know I dont do Dates/Rates... It will happen when it happens.... Welcome to the NO HYPE ZONE
[DinarWishes] LibbytheLab Mud in the oil is still mud in the oil....
[DinarWishes] Im not saying it couldnt happen on the 4th of July..... Im just saying they have shown a pattern of every 6 months.... Remember last year this time all the intel around the 30th of June??? Then again In December?? Thats why I say that
[dietcokeandice] DinarWishes How iyo will it show any time of day--wake up bank show and email mail out how?
[DinarWishes] dietcokeandice Ive always felt that banks will be all closed or all open here in the US... because we are in the drivers seat....
[ArizonaHeat] Gnarz whats the Buzz in germany on the euro
[ArizonaHeat] Gnarz whats the Buzz in germany on the euro
[greyhawk] Gnarz highfive
[DinarWishes] RidgeRatCmdr its amazing to me how everyone has taken so many little things and made them RV related...
[DinarWishes] RidgeRatCmdr its amazing to me how everyone has taken so many little things and made them RV relate
[DinarWishes] When you have a hammer EVERYTHING looks like a naild...
[averysgrampa] DinarWishes Im sorry i wanst asking a date or rate at all i know better than that i was just curious about what you thought the percentage was in your mind of this happeneing before the end of june so anyways sorry didnt mean to aggrevate ya :D
[DinarWishes] kord I didnt say September.... ArizonaHeat did
[Gnarz] ArizonaHeat oh my a never ending story
[DinarWishes] averysgrampa no worries.... I think we are in the best place we could be...
[Gnarz] ArizonaHeat so slow it is tight for Mrs. Merkel. Yesterday, the failure of the law by our presidents. The air is thin
[ArizonaHeat] Gnarz yikes
[ArizonaHeat] ok imout ya'll take care
[DinarWishes] RidgeRatCmdr There was a time I was in my Garage and I was looking for something and I was so frustrated that I couldnt find it.... My Father being the wize man he is told me to get up on a bucket.... I asked why?? He said Get on the Dang bucket and look... So I did.... sure enough I saw what I was looking for.... What happened???? I was taken out of my blind rage looking so hard for something right in front of me... It was a change in perspective.... It was a great lesson....
