UPDATE: My point for today is…you should have HOPE after you read this today…
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As I look over the numerous possible outcomes here – I am still hopeful. The violent back-and-forth only shows the furious pace at which things are being “stirred”. The White House has sent VP Biden to Iraq a couple of times recently and there is still significant sentiment against Maliki (as well there should be).
It is highly likely the opposition will have Maliki “interrogated” in Parliament as a first step towards removal. This should happen soon. They don’t need Talibani to “sign off” – but they would prefer not to “alienate” (as in – Pxxx him off!!) him. Maliki is not in nearly as good of shape politically as the “volumes” of news would seem to indicate. The news in not in the business of “predicting” – they only follow from a distance. So – if there seems to be a “tide” of news – they follow.
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A great big THANK YOU to all of our MOD’s – they are so awesome. None of what I get credit for could I do without them. They and our members are a bunch of very serious bunch of newshounds – it’s tough to keep up with them!! ;)
As I look over the numerous possible outcomes here – I am still hopeful. The violent back-and-forth only shows the furious pace at which things are being “stirred”. The White House has sent VP Biden to Iraq a couple of times recently and there is still significant sentiment against Maliki (as well there should be).
It is highly likely the opposition will have Maliki “interrogated” in Parliament as a first step towards removal. This should happen soon. They don’t need Talibani to “sign off” – but they would prefer not to “alienate” (as in – Pxxx him off!!) him. Maliki is not in nearly as good of shape politically as the “volumes” of news would seem to indicate. The news in not in the business of “predicting” – they only follow from a distance. So – if there seems to be a “tide” of news – they follow.
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Read More Link on Right
Remember folks – Iraq is still operating under a UN mandated, artificially low, “pre-programmed” currency rate. This will remain until they believe Iraq is no longer a threat to the world. Once there is again a legitimate “balance of power” in Iraq – they will move forward. Sooner or later – this will happen.
*** Current News ***
Embattled Iraqi PM holding on to power for now
The rebels in Nuri al-Maliki’s coalition can also force a no-confidence vote without Talabani’s help, but it’s a longer, more cumbersome process. (Reuters)
By The Associated Press BAGHDAD
Iraq’s embattled prime minister has fought off an attempt to push him out of office, aided by divisions among his opponents and Iranian intervention on his behalf.
Nuri al-Maliki’s tactical victory averts a potentially destabilizing contest to replace him, at least for the time being, but perpetuates the sectarian-based deadlock that has paralyzed the country for years.
In the latest setback for those trying to unseat al-Maliki, the country’s president said Sunday he would not ratify a petition for a no-confidence vote because it lacked the needed number of signatures.
An Iraqi lawmaker who supports the prime minister says Iran is helping him by trying to buy time. Tehran is pushing for a two-month grace period during which al-Maliki, who has close ties with the Islamic Republic, would ostensibly try to appease coalition partners who accuse him of monopolizing power.
At the root of the standoff is the unresolved power struggle between Iraq’s three main groups — the majority Shiites and minority Sunnis and Kurds — following the ouster of Saddam Hussein in the U.S.-led invasion of 2003.
http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/06/11/219939.html
The Reuters bit is exactly the direction the opposition is headed. No doubt. While Talibani has put off an “official request” coming through him – he cannot avert the whole Parliament – should they decide to act. The opposition has also resent a packet to Talibani “certifying” all signatures…so there seems to be an issue as to the facts. The “next best” news is we’re hearing about this on some pretty major news feeds now and he’s holding onto power – FOR NOW!! ;)
Deputy for Iraq: political blocs will examine the files that will be the day of the interrogation session
The MP said the Iraqi List, Knight Sangaree the political blocs that will be discussed at a meeting today in the files that will be to question the prime minister. ”
He Sangaree told all of Iraq [where] that “all political blocs have files on Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki and the Iraqi and some blocks today to discuss the files that contain violations of the constitutionality of including the failure to provide commanders safe [team leaders] to the House of Representatives to approve them, and not naming the Ministers Defense and Interior and the appointment by proxy and not make the rules of procedure of the Council of Ministers and the failure to clarify the powers of the prime minister, all of these violations of constitutional and clear. ”
He noted that there are a lot of large files that record the violations of constitutional and the other blocs files can be agreed upon and presented in a session of interrogation. ”
http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ar&tl=en&u=http://www.alliraqnews.com/index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26view%3Darticle%26id%3D40961:2012-06-11-07-11-07%
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They are planning to have Maliki in front of the full Parliament for an “interrogation” soon. This is the first step of a House-led “no confidence” vote. From what I understand – he’s even preparing to speak in front of them.
Iraq president: PM’s critics didn’t get majority
BAGHDAD --
Opponents of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki have failed to master enough support to bring him down in a vote of no confidence, Iraq’s president said in a statement posted on his website Sunday.
Al-Maliki, a Shiite, faces a growing challenge from Sunni and Kurdish parties as well as other Shiites within his unity government who accuse him of monopolizing power.
But al-Maliki also has allies such as President Jalal Talabani, a Kurd, whose office must affirm that a petition for a no-confidence vote has enough signatures. Talabani’s refusal to ratify the no-confidence campaign’s letter is a setback for al-Maliki’s opponents, although the constitution gives them other ways of trying for the vote.
Coalition rebels said in a statement they would keep trying to unseat al-Maliki and to “put an end to the monopoly (on power) and domination” by the prime minister.
Talabani has close ties to Iran, which has been using its leverage in Iraq to keep al-Maliki in place. Divisions among the prime minister’s opponents may also be undercutting the no confidence push.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2018398035_apmliraqpolitics.html?syndication=rss
This is pretty big news. Though it is very “left leaning” (they are calling the majority oppostion – “Coalition rebels” – “skewed” to say the least) it is one of the first US feeds talking about it!! While it alludes to the fact that an “immediate vote” has been staved off…the bad news for Washington is it still makes light of the growing discontent with the leader they put in power. The PR disaster they were trying to “get out in front of” is going to happen anyway. Also some more key wording - “although the constitution gives them other ways of trying for the vote”. Which means – it’s going to happen, one way or the other!!
P.S. I also find it very interesting this piece “blames” Iran when VP Biden has been there twice in as many weeks.
Surprises the last few hours .. the deployment of unique readings Khvaya to meet with Maliki and Jaafari-Hakim yesterday!!
“Readings,” revealed the source of an official who attended the meeting which took place yesterday between Maliki and Jaafari and Hakim, and a number of political leaders representing the three leaders disclosed the details of Madar in the meeting, which lasted about four hours to detail ..
The source said al-Maliki and Jaafari asked the Hakim began to “know the depth of his real-placed confidence of the Prime Minister because, as they called them and said the position of the Supreme Council official rejects no-confidence at the moment is that they are not sure that this situation will last to the end with the increasing numbers the political front opposed to the survival of al-Maliki as “prime minister and the extent of strategic relations enjoyed by the wise with those parties and meet the chest with the wise and leaks Sadrists after they offered the post of prime minister Bayan in exchange for supporting the project no-confidence by the Council…
http://translate.google.com/translate?client=tmpg&hl=en&langpair=ar%7Cen&rurl=translate.google.com&u=http://www.faceiraq.com/inews.php%3Fid%3D599908
This is a most interesting bit of news - Jaafari and Maliki just had a meeting with Hakim to “probe” the depth of his support for Maliki – just yesterday. Again, if Maliki were in such good shape politically – why the hit squads for his successor, the threat of arrest towards Sadr and this meeting to take Hakim’s temperature?? The truth of the matter is - Maliki knows as much about his fate as you and I do.
Urgent … Sources confirm: Maliki will be a majority government if the end of the political crisis of confidence it
Informed sources revealed that Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki is thinking seriously about forming a majority government in the event of a political crisis over the withdrawal of confidence from it.
The sources said that the “orientation-Maliki came after the abandonment of many of his associates with him from the Sadrists and the Kurdistan Democratic Party led by Massoud Barzani, in addition to the movements of the Iraqi List, indicating its unwillingness to resolve the current crisis and that Maliki can not continue with them in government.”
She stressed that the “secret meetings taking place between state law and the parties and the Congress dissidents for their bloc in addition to the views were marginalized in the previous period to be invested in order to contract alliances,” likely “to form new alliances with a coalition of state law through which al-Maliki to form a majority government policy away from the effects that play roles outskirts of Erbil now. ”
http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ar&tl=en&u=http://www.fursanalamal.com/ArticleShow.aspx%3FID%3D3295&usg=ALkJrhiH-w_793oWqr2JLnvKq2kH0dNnIw
This is exactly why they will continue the proceedings and finish this up. If they don’t – none of them will have jobs. There won’t be a “Parliament”!!
Here are some interesting headlines…
Jaafari, calls for unity, and a national meeting to discuss the papers and the meeting of Erbil Talabani
Oh sure – now they want a National Meeting – couldn’t drag them to it two months ago!!
Berwari: Maliki’s opponents will not negotiate with him without a third party guarantor to agree upon the implementation of the
Mainly because they did that numerous times and he’s a lying scumbag!!
Iraq rejected the offers “the law” to reverse the withdrawal of trust
If they were in such good shape – why the “offer”??
Mr. Sadr asked to change the Prime Minister and not the government
This is a key distinction I made some time ago – they don’t want to dissasemble the GOI – just get rid of Maliki and a few “henchmen”. That’s it.
*** Rumor Comments *** – June 10th!!
Rumor - 8Ball Maliki can’t do anything on his own…its the hidden people that are behind the scenes that fear losing power and its a test of wills right now as Allawi and the Kurds ratchet up the votes I fully expect a total cave in. Maliki and the Shiites were on the brink of destruction. If a party reforms with 163 seats + Talibani will send a letter to Parliament to begin the process of dissolving the current government since they will not hold a majority Maliki and the Shiites are on the edge…who will blink first.
8Ball has a pretty solid read on where we are as of right now…good stuff!!
Rumor - THERE APPEARS TO BE SOME FINANCIAL MOTIONS AND SOME WHISPERS ABOUT CREDITORS (READ THAT AS “PARIS CLUB”) AND OTHERS WHO HAVE ‘PRIORITY’ WHERE PAYBACKS ARE CONCERNED.
There may well be such “rumblings” – but I doubt anyone we know would hear about it and I further doubt there is any way such a situation would ever trigger this “RV”. It’s just not plausable.
Rumor - there is a lot of rumor in the streets that Maliki has left the policial stage…
I guess this guy missed the AP, Reuters, Fox news and all the Arabic feeds as well? Do they think we can’t read???
Rumor - our Time and RV is Inevitable. No obstacles in Sight. Nothing but Blue Skies
Lay off the Acid (LSD) bro!! Once the politics are worked out, we’ll be in a “real”, no-obstacles situation…for now – there are big “hold-ups!!
Rumor - I spoke to UN…directly…Chapter 7…does not interfere…with Revaluing a Currency!!! June 15, 2012…UNSC…will meet..for Iraq/kuwait file!!! No Stop signs…KUWAIT….is asking…Please…can we get this darn Chapter7 nonsense….DONE!!!
I doubt it…though CH7 probably doesn’t have much impact on the RV (which will likely have to happen first) neither will Kuwait have the final say in UNSC proceedings. The UNSC will hear them – that is all. The UNSC won’t let Iraq fart in “sovereign” manner till they get Maliki minimized (at least). It won’t happen. Ban Ki Moon has had enough of Maliki to last him a life-time.
If you find a crazy rumor or have a question about something you’ve heard – bring it to one of the Mods over at www.dinarupdates.com and we’ll use it here. Thanks!!
*** Current News ***
Embattled Iraqi PM holding on to power for now
The rebels in Nuri al-Maliki’s coalition can also force a no-confidence vote without Talabani’s help, but it’s a longer, more cumbersome process. (Reuters)
By The Associated Press BAGHDAD
Iraq’s embattled prime minister has fought off an attempt to push him out of office, aided by divisions among his opponents and Iranian intervention on his behalf.
Nuri al-Maliki’s tactical victory averts a potentially destabilizing contest to replace him, at least for the time being, but perpetuates the sectarian-based deadlock that has paralyzed the country for years.
In the latest setback for those trying to unseat al-Maliki, the country’s president said Sunday he would not ratify a petition for a no-confidence vote because it lacked the needed number of signatures.
An Iraqi lawmaker who supports the prime minister says Iran is helping him by trying to buy time. Tehran is pushing for a two-month grace period during which al-Maliki, who has close ties with the Islamic Republic, would ostensibly try to appease coalition partners who accuse him of monopolizing power.
At the root of the standoff is the unresolved power struggle between Iraq’s three main groups — the majority Shiites and minority Sunnis and Kurds — following the ouster of Saddam Hussein in the U.S.-led invasion of 2003.
http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/06/11/219939.html
The Reuters bit is exactly the direction the opposition is headed. No doubt. While Talibani has put off an “official request” coming through him – he cannot avert the whole Parliament – should they decide to act. The opposition has also resent a packet to Talibani “certifying” all signatures…so there seems to be an issue as to the facts. The “next best” news is we’re hearing about this on some pretty major news feeds now and he’s holding onto power – FOR NOW!! ;)
Deputy for Iraq: political blocs will examine the files that will be the day of the interrogation session
The MP said the Iraqi List, Knight Sangaree the political blocs that will be discussed at a meeting today in the files that will be to question the prime minister. ”
He Sangaree told all of Iraq [where] that “all political blocs have files on Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki and the Iraqi and some blocks today to discuss the files that contain violations of the constitutionality of including the failure to provide commanders safe [team leaders] to the House of Representatives to approve them, and not naming the Ministers Defense and Interior and the appointment by proxy and not make the rules of procedure of the Council of Ministers and the failure to clarify the powers of the prime minister, all of these violations of constitutional and clear. ”
He noted that there are a lot of large files that record the violations of constitutional and the other blocs files can be agreed upon and presented in a session of interrogation. ”
http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ar&tl=en&u=http://www.alliraqnews.com/index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26view%3Darticle%26id%3D40961:2012-06-11-07-11-07%
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They are planning to have Maliki in front of the full Parliament for an “interrogation” soon. This is the first step of a House-led “no confidence” vote. From what I understand – he’s even preparing to speak in front of them.
Iraq president: PM’s critics didn’t get majority
BAGHDAD --
Opponents of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki have failed to master enough support to bring him down in a vote of no confidence, Iraq’s president said in a statement posted on his website Sunday.
Al-Maliki, a Shiite, faces a growing challenge from Sunni and Kurdish parties as well as other Shiites within his unity government who accuse him of monopolizing power.
But al-Maliki also has allies such as President Jalal Talabani, a Kurd, whose office must affirm that a petition for a no-confidence vote has enough signatures. Talabani’s refusal to ratify the no-confidence campaign’s letter is a setback for al-Maliki’s opponents, although the constitution gives them other ways of trying for the vote.
Coalition rebels said in a statement they would keep trying to unseat al-Maliki and to “put an end to the monopoly (on power) and domination” by the prime minister.
Talabani has close ties to Iran, which has been using its leverage in Iraq to keep al-Maliki in place. Divisions among the prime minister’s opponents may also be undercutting the no confidence push.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2018398035_apmliraqpolitics.html?syndication=rss
This is pretty big news. Though it is very “left leaning” (they are calling the majority oppostion – “Coalition rebels” – “skewed” to say the least) it is one of the first US feeds talking about it!! While it alludes to the fact that an “immediate vote” has been staved off…the bad news for Washington is it still makes light of the growing discontent with the leader they put in power. The PR disaster they were trying to “get out in front of” is going to happen anyway. Also some more key wording - “although the constitution gives them other ways of trying for the vote”. Which means – it’s going to happen, one way or the other!!
P.S. I also find it very interesting this piece “blames” Iran when VP Biden has been there twice in as many weeks.
Surprises the last few hours .. the deployment of unique readings Khvaya to meet with Maliki and Jaafari-Hakim yesterday!!
“Readings,” revealed the source of an official who attended the meeting which took place yesterday between Maliki and Jaafari and Hakim, and a number of political leaders representing the three leaders disclosed the details of Madar in the meeting, which lasted about four hours to detail ..
The source said al-Maliki and Jaafari asked the Hakim began to “know the depth of his real-placed confidence of the Prime Minister because, as they called them and said the position of the Supreme Council official rejects no-confidence at the moment is that they are not sure that this situation will last to the end with the increasing numbers the political front opposed to the survival of al-Maliki as “prime minister and the extent of strategic relations enjoyed by the wise with those parties and meet the chest with the wise and leaks Sadrists after they offered the post of prime minister Bayan in exchange for supporting the project no-confidence by the Council…
http://translate.google.com/translate?client=tmpg&hl=en&langpair=ar%7Cen&rurl=translate.google.com&u=http://www.faceiraq.com/inews.php%3Fid%3D599908
This is a most interesting bit of news - Jaafari and Maliki just had a meeting with Hakim to “probe” the depth of his support for Maliki – just yesterday. Again, if Maliki were in such good shape politically – why the hit squads for his successor, the threat of arrest towards Sadr and this meeting to take Hakim’s temperature?? The truth of the matter is - Maliki knows as much about his fate as you and I do.
Urgent … Sources confirm: Maliki will be a majority government if the end of the political crisis of confidence it
Informed sources revealed that Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki is thinking seriously about forming a majority government in the event of a political crisis over the withdrawal of confidence from it.
The sources said that the “orientation-Maliki came after the abandonment of many of his associates with him from the Sadrists and the Kurdistan Democratic Party led by Massoud Barzani, in addition to the movements of the Iraqi List, indicating its unwillingness to resolve the current crisis and that Maliki can not continue with them in government.”
She stressed that the “secret meetings taking place between state law and the parties and the Congress dissidents for their bloc in addition to the views were marginalized in the previous period to be invested in order to contract alliances,” likely “to form new alliances with a coalition of state law through which al-Maliki to form a majority government policy away from the effects that play roles outskirts of Erbil now. ”
http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ar&tl=en&u=http://www.fursanalamal.com/ArticleShow.aspx%3FID%3D3295&usg=ALkJrhiH-w_793oWqr2JLnvKq2kH0dNnIw
This is exactly why they will continue the proceedings and finish this up. If they don’t – none of them will have jobs. There won’t be a “Parliament”!!
Here are some interesting headlines…
Jaafari, calls for unity, and a national meeting to discuss the papers and the meeting of Erbil Talabani
Oh sure – now they want a National Meeting – couldn’t drag them to it two months ago!!
Berwari: Maliki’s opponents will not negotiate with him without a third party guarantor to agree upon the implementation of the
Mainly because they did that numerous times and he’s a lying scumbag!!
Iraq rejected the offers “the law” to reverse the withdrawal of trust
If they were in such good shape – why the “offer”??
Mr. Sadr asked to change the Prime Minister and not the government
This is a key distinction I made some time ago – they don’t want to dissasemble the GOI – just get rid of Maliki and a few “henchmen”. That’s it.
*** Rumor Comments *** – June 10th!!
Rumor - 8Ball Maliki can’t do anything on his own…its the hidden people that are behind the scenes that fear losing power and its a test of wills right now as Allawi and the Kurds ratchet up the votes I fully expect a total cave in. Maliki and the Shiites were on the brink of destruction. If a party reforms with 163 seats + Talibani will send a letter to Parliament to begin the process of dissolving the current government since they will not hold a majority Maliki and the Shiites are on the edge…who will blink first.
8Ball has a pretty solid read on where we are as of right now…good stuff!!
Rumor - THERE APPEARS TO BE SOME FINANCIAL MOTIONS AND SOME WHISPERS ABOUT CREDITORS (READ THAT AS “PARIS CLUB”) AND OTHERS WHO HAVE ‘PRIORITY’ WHERE PAYBACKS ARE CONCERNED.
There may well be such “rumblings” – but I doubt anyone we know would hear about it and I further doubt there is any way such a situation would ever trigger this “RV”. It’s just not plausable.
Rumor - there is a lot of rumor in the streets that Maliki has left the policial stage…
I guess this guy missed the AP, Reuters, Fox news and all the Arabic feeds as well? Do they think we can’t read???
Rumor - our Time and RV is Inevitable. No obstacles in Sight. Nothing but Blue Skies
Lay off the Acid (LSD) bro!! Once the politics are worked out, we’ll be in a “real”, no-obstacles situation…for now – there are big “hold-ups!!
Rumor - I spoke to UN…directly…Chapter 7…does not interfere…with Revaluing a Currency!!! June 15, 2012…UNSC…will meet..for Iraq/kuwait file!!! No Stop signs…KUWAIT….is asking…Please…can we get this darn Chapter7 nonsense….DONE!!!
I doubt it…though CH7 probably doesn’t have much impact on the RV (which will likely have to happen first) neither will Kuwait have the final say in UNSC proceedings. The UNSC will hear them – that is all. The UNSC won’t let Iraq fart in “sovereign” manner till they get Maliki minimized (at least). It won’t happen. Ban Ki Moon has had enough of Maliki to last him a life-time.
If you find a crazy rumor or have a question about something you’ve heard – bring it to one of the Mods over at www.dinarupdates.com and we’ll use it here. Thanks!!
