Med (19:17:24): I HAD A LONG TALK WITH MM17 TODAY WE DISCUSSED THE TARIFFS ARE THEY OR ARENT THEY AND THE DINAR DID NOT STABILIZE WELL EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE SOLD BOO KOO DINAR WHICH TO ME IS COUNTER PRODUCTIVE
THEY CANT GET THE DINAR DOWN ANY FARTHER THAN 1240 AND THEY ARE COVERING 1166 THEY ARE LOSING ALOT WHEN YOU THINK OF IT IN 35 TRILLION
GAU-8: can the cancel or hold a law without coming back in session and doing so?
Med: GAU WITH THIS COUNTRY SURE THEY CAN THEY HAVE PROVEN TIME AND TIME AGAIN THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTHLESS
GAU-8: agreed!:@
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GAU-8: this country has been beaten down for so many decades the people do not understand the power of democracy
Med: THIS CONSTITUTION IS SIMPLE IT WAS TO PROTECT THE RIGHTS BUT MALIKI CAUGHT ON QUICK GO TO YOUR OWN APPOINTED COURT AND GET IT CHANGED WITHOUT ANYONE KNOWING OK THEY HAVE SECRET PRISONS DOES THE U.S. KNOW ABOUT THEM OF COURSE NOW GETTING BACK TO WHAT I WAS GOING TO DISCUSS
GAU-8: sorry
Med: NO WORRIES FOR SOME REASON AFTER YRS OF HOLDING THE DINARS RATE AT 1170 AND SHABIBI THINKING HE HAD USED EVERY SCENARIO POSSIBLE TO SHAKE IT AND STILL KEEP IT AT 1170 AFTER THE HUGE INCREASE IN THE RATE OF 4 PIPS IT PLUMMETED IN VALUE I PERSONALLY DONT KNOW WHO IS BUYING UP ALL THE DINAR THAT THEY CLAIM ESPECIALLY SINCE THEY PUT SOME TIGHT RESTRICTIONS ON THE SALE OR EXCHANGE
I PERSONALLY THINK IN IRAQ ITSELF THEY JUST DONT HAVE FAITH SINCE 09 THEY WERE TOLD IT IS COMING IT IS COMING WENT INTO ALL KINDS OF EXPLANATIONS AND THE ONLY THING THAT THE IRAQI PEOPLE CAN CONTROL IS THEY CAN DUMP THE DINAR FOR USD INTERNALLY TO TRADERS
I READ YESTERDAY THEY ARE GOING TO APPEAL TO THE PEOPLE TO PLEASE USE THE DINAR BUT THERE IS NO SOUND REASON FOR THEM TO RIGHT NOW AND IT WILL BE EVEN WORSE IF THE TARIFFS HIT
NOW REMEMBER AMENDMENTS WERE MADE TO THE TARIFFS NO FOOD OR CLOTHING WILL BE TARIFFED THAT WILL REALLY MINIMIZE THE IMPACT OR DAMAGE THE TARIFFS WILL DO THE ACTUAL REASON THEY WANT TO DO THIS IS BECAUSE OF THE FLOOD OF CRAP IMPORTS FROM CHINA AND THEY ARE ALREADY PRICED HIGH
IN READING THE EXPLANATION IT REALLY DIDNT SEEM THAT THEY WERE TRYING TO HURT THE IRAQI PEOPLE IT MIGHT AND IT MIGHT NOW NOT ONLY WHEN IT GOES INTO EFFECT WILL WE SEE IF IT HAS AN IMPACT OR NOT IN THE FIRST MONTH
NOW IF IT DOESNT CAUSE A REDLINE I READ THAT SHABIBI EXPECTS THE DINAR DURING RAMADAN TO FINALLY STABILIZE BACK AT 1166 I TOLD MM17 THAT KIND OF BOTHERED ME OR MADE ME GO HMMMMM IF LETS SAY THEY ARE NOT FOR THE SAKE OF ARGUMENT GOING TO DO ANYTHING BUT STABILIZE BACK TO 1166 THEN IT ONLY LEAVES OCT NOV AND DEC
IF THE GOAL WAS TO ISSUE THE NEW DENOMS AFTER THE REVALUE HERE IS MY REASONING ON WHY I THINK IT IS GOING TO COME IN DECEMBER NOW DONT THROW YOU COMPUTERS THIS IS ONLY MY OPINION AND IT IS WEAK OK LETS SAY THE ISSUE IS SET IN STONE FOR 1/1/2013
NOW IF YOU ALL REMEMBER SALEH SAID THAT THEY WOULD NOT DO THIS IN THE MIDDLE OF A FISCAL YEAR IT HAD TO BE AT THE BEGINNING NOW IF THEY ARE GOING TO MOVE DIRECTLY TO 1 TO 1 YOU CERTAINLY CANT HAVE IT SITTING OUT LIKE THAT FOR ANY LENGTH OF TIME WITH NO DENOMS TO COUNTER THE REVALUE WOULD YOU ALL AGREE
ksdunlap: yes
Caviar Dreams: yes hi ya
Med: SO MY GUESS IS THAT NO MORE THAN ONE WEEK BEFORE THE NEW ISSUE OF DENOMS THIS WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE FIRST STATEMENTS SHABIBI SAID ABOUT THE REVALUE AND THE ISSUE SEVERAL YEARS AGO I JUST HAPPENED TO REMEMBER IT IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE TO REVALUE SLOWLY AND CONTINUOUSLY
irishbrian: Hi Med just switched over to this puter and seen your chat.. Did we not agree that they already have enough small denoms to start from the 14 originally printed?
Med: TO 1 TO 1 NOT ANYMORE THE ORIGINALS ARE NOT EVEN AN ISSUE ANYMORE THEY WILL NOT PUT THOSE IN THEN ANOTHER SET AND THEN HAVE TO TAKE OUT BOTH
irishbrian: Oh OK
Med: IT WOULDNT MAKE ANYSENSE TO DO IT AND THE 50 AND 250 AND 500 THEY JUST WOULDNT DO IT WITH A HIGHER RATE IT WOULD CONFUSE THE HECK OUT OF THEM
Caviar Dreams: i think the only way they will get their populus to give up usd is to revalue...imo....its been the standard for too long now
Med: NOW THAT I AM IN TOTAL AGREEMENT ON CD
irishbrian: Right not hard to do when you live mostly in the dark and cook on Camel dung
mailman17: :S
Caviar Dreams: and that any change during ramadan is a test....that they can either back out of or continue
(hello’s to mailman17)
Med: BBIAB
mailman17: HEY
W8n2cashin: guess we'll know the a.m. if the tarriffs are a go
mailman17: I HAVE HEARD OR SEEN NOTHING ON THEM NOT GOING DOWN AND I HAVE SEEN 2 SEPARATE ARTICLES FROM PARLIAMENT TELLING THE GOI, ESPECIALLY THE COUUNCIL OF MINISTERS TO KEEP THEIR NOSE OUT OF IT AND THEIR ADVICE / BILL WILL BE DEALT WITH
BUT THEY ARE CONFIRMED ON THESE TARRIFS GOING THROUGH AND THE COUNCIL CANNOT STOP IT
irishbrian: Thanks all, This COM is a hit squad for M right MM?
flowergirl: right
mailman17: NOW...A LITTLE MORE OF WHAT ME AND MED TALKED ABOUT
W8n2cashin: do tell
mailman17: YOU ALL KNOW WE ARE DINAR BROTHERS....BUT ALSO A LOT OF THE TIME SEE THE COIN FROM A DIFFERENT SIDE THAT'S WHAT MAKES THIS FORUM WORK
flowergirl: yup
DAYSTAR: Yes
W8n2cashin: it does
Caviar Dreams: oeky dokey
mailman17: I WOULD RATHER HAVE TO SIDES OF ANYTHING THAN 1 NOT SAYING EITHER IS RIGHT OR WRONG JUST DIFFERENT YOU ALSO KNOW MED IS A TAD BIT MORE CAUTIOUS THAN I AM..(6)
AGAIN....THAT IS NOT A FAULT AS IT IS PAINSTAKINGLY AT TIMES RELYING ON WHAT YOU SEE AND READ AND MED IS THE BEST AT THAT FACTS AS PRESENTED
ME? I LIKE TO GO PAST THE ARTICLES...DISSECT THEM AS MED DOES....BUT GO A BIT FURTHER AND KINDA LIKE...SEE INTO THEIR NEXT MOVE
Caviar Dreams: me too
mailman17: WHAT SHOULD THEY DO? WHAT IS THEIR NEXT MOVE BASED ON ARTICLES AND FACTS
flowergirl: why would CBI say they have decided to drop the 3 zeros...if it wasn't going to go soon jmo
mailman17: LIKE MED SAID...THE RV IS NO LONGER A QUESTION IT IS COMING FG...GETTING TO THAT <)
flowergirl: sorry
mailman17: NP...JUST FUNNING YA
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