(We at Dinar Recaps are hearing that many folks are experiencing computer issues related to Java - We do not have all the answers or a quick resolve as of yet - We are sharing this chat in hopes that their discussion of their issues will in turn help others - As we get more info we will post Thank You for your continued readership)
8:51 AM [willietrader] Texas Mama I didn't see BWM what time was he in?
8:51 AM [Sparkles] No mam I know nuttin
8:52 AM [BOBGETZ6] Good Morning MIG We have been having trouble with Java. There is an tab on the home page for java updates. Please update your Java. Also if you are running on Firefox, please check what version you are running. If you are not running Firefox 18.0, please update Firefox as well.
8:53 AM [Texas Mama] willietrader He was on when I was leaving the house around 11ish? maybe? I can't remember... shoot!
8:56 AM [BOBGETZ6] It appears that some do not like facts as he presents them. I can say this....BWM and my Frozen Friend, as well as CGMOM70, are very well connected and the ONLY people I trust as to what is really going on.
8:57 AM [willietrader] BOBGETZ6 what was the truth BWM shared?
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8:51 AM [willietrader] Texas Mama I didn't see BWM what time was he in?
8:51 AM [Sparkles] No mam I know nuttin
8:52 AM [BOBGETZ6] Good Morning MIG We have been having trouble with Java. There is an tab on the home page for java updates. Please update your Java. Also if you are running on Firefox, please check what version you are running. If you are not running Firefox 18.0, please update Firefox as well.
8:53 AM [Texas Mama] willietrader He was on when I was leaving the house around 11ish? maybe? I can't remember... shoot!
8:56 AM [BOBGETZ6] It appears that some do not like facts as he presents them. I can say this....BWM and my Frozen Friend, as well as CGMOM70, are very well connected and the ONLY people I trust as to what is really going on.
8:57 AM [willietrader] BOBGETZ6 what was the truth BWM shared?
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Read More Link On Right
8:58 AM [BOBGETZ6] If folks knew who some of their contacts are, they would be floored. I am amazed at the level of some of the people who they know
8:58 AM [maranatha] BOBGETZ6 ty---I really appreciate all you bring
8:59 AM [BOBGETZ6] willietrader I was not here and I don't have access to the chat records. We do not keep them like other site do as that costs extra.
8:59 AM [freedom13] so far no one brings great intel not even me ,,everyone was wrong so far ,,or not panned out ,,thats the problem ,,some have great contacts BUT
9:00 AM [BOBGETZ6] freedom13 That may be true, but the people who I have mentioned, do not state dates or rates as others do.
9:00 AM [Texas Mama] Well peoples, if somebody comes on heres and disrespect all of yoo, and there are no Mods in heres, then by all means everybody needs to start calling Mods or CCF...but if they are just saying things you don't believe, then I think we need to do what we are suppose to do and that's either put thems on ignore or go do something for a while and then come back.... I don't know what happened, so I can't say, but it didn't sound good.?? shoot!
9:01 AM [MsDiva] Texas Mama good statement
9:02 AM [xyz] Texas Mama gm .... or close the ears as i often do
9:02 AM [freedom13] BOBGETZ6 YES ,,but people on chats ,,do not read posts or articles they just look and ask what did it say ,,so many peeps are lazy ,hate to say it
9:02 AM [Sparkles] i highly respect BWM and his wisdom and he does not put dates and rates out there
9:02 AM [willietrader] Texas Mama I didn't see BWM on I was kick by Jacque which I do not know why And she told me she did not have to answer to me
9:04 AM [BOBGETZ6] Anybody is free to post their opinions or whatever they want to bring, as long as they are respectful. That is all we ask and this site and we seem to have peeps, for the most part in here, who abide by that mode of operation. There are only two on this site that can ban someone permanently. I am one of them and have not had to ban anyone for over a year. That says something about our people.
9:05 AM [BOBGETZ6] freedom13 Sorry for the delay, but yes, you are correct.
9:05 AM [freedom13] i call the date and rate every day ,,i want it now
9:05 AM [capt ron] Although M&Ms are actually Dubya&Dubyas upside down. Little known fact.
9:06 AM [jimt] BOBGETZ6 Have you seen this? Department of Homeland Security advises computer users to disable Java because of security bug
9:07 AM [capt ron] winalot was addressing the java issue in recaps today.
9:07 AM [Texas Mama] did yoo see what executive order O did the other day? Security for the rest of his life on taxpayers money.
9:07 AM [capt ron] Or alerting us to it.
9:08 AM [jimt] http://news.yahoo.com/de ··· 696.html
9:08 AM [Expendable3] Anything is hackable java is no more or no less,erailer versions of it are better
9:08 AM [jacque47] ooooooooo where is peganded------when ya need him-------or aremel??????
9:09 AM [Rio51AllGo] Is it safe to be on this site? Does MIG use Java?
9:09 AM [capt ron] I feel so good about this rv that I just rolled over a layaway again this morning.
9:09 AM [BOBGETZ6] Texas Mama With what he is doing to the country, he probably raelizes that he will need it.
9:10 AM [Rio51AllGo] If I disable I can't get on, correct?
9:10 AM [Texas Mama] Rio51AllGo hold on hun...don't panic... sometimes things aren't what they seem...
9:10 AM [dice3344] capt ron...i feel good about it to, but when do u think it might go down.
9:10 AM [cashinqueen1] BOBGETZ6 frozen friend have any thoughts on sat open banking??? Foot forward seems to believe it has nothing to do with the rv?
9:11 AM [Expendable3] Rio51AllGo If Java is on your computer which 99% are your computer is vulnerable.And no you will not
9:11 AM [Expendable3] Just have a good Anti-virus and firewall
9:12 AM [BOBGETZ6] Rio51AllGo Expendable3 and all. Java has been a real pain for us as well as other sites. They update and the Addonchat that we use, doesnt always run in sync with Java. I don't understand it all, but there it is.
9:12 AM [capt ron] dice, I can't do a 'date' call any better than the best of us, but the probability of success continues to look high enough to me to increase my dinar position again.
9:13 AM [Expendable3] BOBGETZ6 DOn't run auto updates... I'm running older version Java 6.0+ currently and having no problems
9:13 AM [xyz] Expendable3 What is Java Plug-in software? The Java Plug-in software is a component of the Java Runtime Environment (JRE). The JRE allows applets written in the Java programming language to run inside various browsers. The Java Plug-in software is not a standalone program and cannot be installed separately. http://www.java.com/en/d ··· java.xml
9:14 AM [capt ron] Just remember, M&Ms are actually Dubyas&Dubyas in disguise.
9:14 AM [Texas Mama] capt ron how is Philly today? cold I suppose.. yesterday here in Texas was soo bootiful I can't tell you how much I am enjoying this climate...
9:14 AM [capt ron] Cold and liberal.
9:14 AM [Texas Mama] capt ron
9:15 AM [BOBGETZ6] cashinqueen1 Yes, he does. It, in his opinion, is a subtle way of getting dollars off the street in preparation for an rv. It is a one to one exchange so that, in his opinion, when they rv, it will be smooth and somewhat covert.
9:15 AM [capt ron] All the streets have turns only to the left.
9:15 AM [Expendable3] xyz It works in almost every piece of software made.It's a windows issue that they never really adressed
9:15 AM [capt ron] What a mess.
9:16 AM [BOBGETZ6] Expendable3 Don't really understand the techi stuff. I just know that CCF has continual problems because of the sometimes (incompatability?) with the different services.
9:17 AM [Expendable3] BOBGETZ6 Yep it's a real pain I'm sure
9:17 AM [xyz] Expendable3 java is more than just what i am seeing in chats. its used extensively for server side programs which may have nothing to do with the warning imho ....applets is just one little piece
9:17 AM [Expendable3] esp all the updates... sometimes they work and sometimes they don't
9:17 AM [Expendable3] xyz Yep for sure xyz Ot's in all kinds of software
9:18 AM [BOBGETZ6] Expendable3 CCF is very talented with both the PC, Mac and servers an d he has to continually work on one issue or another.
9:18 AM [Expendable3] BOBGETZ6 Thats cool he's a techie
9:19 AM [winalot] The problem with ALL versions of JAVA, is it allows viruses to sneek in thru the JAVA platform, bypassing all of your security software. You can pick up key loggers, bots, and a whole host of nasties... and they are REAL nasties!
9:19 AM [Expendable3] Appreciate CCF's efforts
9:19 AM [RindsGuy] xyz Expendable3 java is a complete programming language. It's claim to fame is that anything written in java will run on any java enabled platform (windows, mac or linux). So, you don't have to rewrite the program for different operating system. Earlier version of java were very good. When Sun Microsystems ran the project. But, now Oracle owns Java. Problems started when they took over.
9:20 AM [Expendable3] Oracle has always beem a problemo
9:20 AM [xyz] winalot JAVA is more than just browsing ...if you use android, its written in java
9:20 AM [winalot] xyz yes i know!
9:20 AM [RindsGuy] Expendable3 Larry Ellison is the problem. He's an arrogant Bill Gates clone.
9:21 AM [winalot] xyz I had a keylogger on my system a few years ago... got hacked to the tune of $21,000 !
9:21 AM [RindsGuy] xyz Android is a micro linux operating system. But, all apps for android are written in Java.
9:21 AM [Texas Mama] winalot I can't get on chat through firefox anymore...as of today only?? that's weird...I updated the latest version to 18.0 but it still don't work??
9:22 AM [xyz] winalot i have not looked at it extensively but i feel that the warning may be referring to JRE
9:22 AM [Expendable3] Texas Mama try Opera Browser
9:22 AM [winalot] Texas Mama i will have to call u...
9:22 AM [cashinqueen1] Finance Officer: Iraq has the right to withdraw part of the cash reserves in the Development Fund for Iraq. 10/01/2013 11:06:00
9:22 AM [RindsGuy] Texas Mama I got a message saying I couldn't get in either. But, there was a line on my message saying "click here to try anyway" and I did and I'm still getting in.
9:22 AM [Texas Mama] Expendable3 "OPERA" what...yoo want mee to sing opera?
9:22 AM [xyz] RindsGuy yes the programs ...was not talking about os
9:22 AM [cashinqueen1] http://www.ninanews.com/ ··· Q=GFHMJF
9:23 AM [Texas Mama] RindsGuy I had to go to mee explore browser ... shoot!
9:23 AM [Dsatmhk7] Intel4u mobile is down?
9:23 AM [Expendable3] Texas Mama http://www.opera.com/
9:23 AM [cashinqueen1] Finance Officer: Iraq has the right to withdraw part of the cash reserves in the Development Fund for Iraq. http://www.ninanews.com/ ··· Q=GFHMJF so does this mean no need to rv to payoff DFI 10/01/2013 11:06:00
9:23 AM [RindsGuy] Texas Mama Don't use explorer! It's worse than java!!! :8:
9:23 AM [Expendable3] It's better than FF and Exp
9:23 AM [BOBGETZ6] Way over my head, but CCF and I along with one other person, were on a three way for over an hour discussing issues.
9:24 AM [xyz] Dsatmhk7 intel4u mobile/addonchat/mig do not use applets
9:24 AM [Dsatmhk7] Won't open
9:24 AM [Texas Mama] RindsGuy RindsGuy Oh NO! that's what I's on right now... what will happen? :8:
:25 AM [xyz] Dsatmhk7 sorry the mobile sites*
9:25 AM [rustyc] Texas Mama download a foxfire on your computer keep explorer then you can use either...
9:25 AM [BOBGETZ6] Expendable3 I am running FF and have no issues. Don't know if it matters, but I am on a Mac.
9:25 AM [RindsGuy] Texas Mama Internet Explorer is known as the "virus spreader." It's totally horrible about that. You're better off using Google Chrome for a little while until you get your Firefox issues resolved.
9:26 AM [rustyc] BOBGETZ6 mac are very go to keep closed platform
9:26 AM [briarpatch] FF is working fine for me - I'm on windows 7
9:26 AM [RindsGuy] BOBGETZ6 My firefox on my laptop runs java 7 and I have no problems getting in.
9:26 AM [Texas Mama] RindsGuy Oh okay hun...I'll go and download Chrome..shoot!
9:26 AM [winalot] Texas Mama hang on....
9:26 AM [Texas Mama] winalot what?
9:26 AM [Expendable3] BOBGETZ6 Mac maybe less vulnerable.. windows kinda sucks
9:26 AM [winalot] u don't wanna use that! they report everything you do !!!
9:26 AM [winalot] Texas Mama i will call u and help with firefox
9:26 AM [Texas Mama] ok I's got java 6 and just updated firefox to 18.0
9:27 AM [winalot] Texas Mama give me 5
9:27 AM [Texas Mama] okay...
9:27 AM [xyz] Texas Mama chrome is evil in regard to privacy imho
9:27 AM [BOBGETZ6] rustyc Didn't undersatnd your post. All I know is that I am soooooo glad I switched to Mac three years ago.
9:27 AM [Expendable3] xyz Deffinately! chrome is a data gathering monster
9:28 AM [rustyc] BOBGETZ6 basically mac is good that is what I was saying
9:28 AM [Expendable3] As is Facebook
9:28 AM [teochi] Dsatmhk7 i'm oin intel4you, no problems getting on
9:29 AM [Dsatmhk7] Mobile?
9:29 AM [jimt] Texas Mama A while back I went with Google Chrome and could not get in the MIG site and had to switch back to Explorer which I am using currently
9:29 AM [Dsatmhk7] Mobile not available
9:30 AM [RindsGuy] If anybody wants google chrome WITHOUT all the tracking stuff download this. http://www.srware.net/en ··· load.php Google Chrome is based off of the open source project called Chromium. Google takes their code and ads their tracking stuff to it. This company takes Chromium and adds more security to it. I use it under windows and have had no problems. There's also no tracking going on either.
9:30 AM [Dsatmhk7] Will you ask for me?
9:30 AM [Expendable3] RindsGuy cool
9:30 AM [BOBGETZ6] xyz Yep, they have this plan to take over the world as far as personal stuff goes. For example, I was on a Chevy site, just for kicks looking at Corvettes as I have one. The next day, guess what? An advertisement showed up from that dealership either on one of our pages or somewhere. I don't like that at all.
9:30 AM [cashinqueen1] BOBGETZ6 frozen friend have any thoughts on sat open banking??? Foot forward seems to believe it has nothing to do with the rv?
9:31 AM [RindsGuy] BOBGETZ6 That's because Google tracks your interests and then keeps that in their database. So, when you go to any site showing google ads you'll get the ads based on what they think you might like.
Well here I's is... I got in through firefox and it was a "add-on" that was not activated...but I's all good...
9:32 AM [Texas Mama] Ghost are yoos pulling mee legs?
9:32 AM [RindsGuy] BOBGETZ6 The only way to stop that would be to use a proxy for web browsing. There are some free ones out there but they are SLOW! You can pay for one if you want. My boss does that.
9:32 AM [xyz] BOBGETZ6 everywhere i go, i am followed by dinar dealers ADs .... hmm guess where they knew i invested in iqd
9:33 AM [Dsatmhk7] Me too xyz
9:34 AM [BOBGETZ6] cashinqueen1 He agrees with FF as well as FF basically agrees with him. See the posts in Dinar Detectives. Frozen feels as if the banks being open in order to be subtle about a pending rv. They are trying to get all of the dollars off the street on a one to one basis, and then at some point, WHAM, an rv. That is about as good as I can explain their differences in opinion.
9:35 AM [BOBGETZ6] xyz Expendable3 RindsGuy Is it best to just uninstall Google Chrome?
9:35 AM [teochi] Dsatmhk7 yes, they are having trouble getting in with phone, can't do it
9:36 AM [BOBGETZ6] aberry As I understand it, that is how they are making the excahnge but has no real change for us.
9:36 AM [teochi] Dsatmhk7 your welcome
:37 AM [xyz] BOBGETZ6 just dont browser with it ...and by the was if you have 'master' google account gmail/voice/etc, always sign out before searching ....and turn off history imho
9:38 AM [xyz] winalot what happened to St germain trust u talked about recently?
9:38 AM [winalot] xyz you mean about them not being who htey say they are?
9:39 AM [xyz] winalot they were not? so what happens to all info corrected?
9:40 AM [winalot] xyz no... the "grant" is NOT connected to St Germain Trust... at all!!!
9:40 AM [xyz] winalot was it a scam?
9:40 AM [winalot] xyz I spoke to Clayton Hanna many times...
9:40 AM [winalot] xyz i do not know .. but, they aren't who hey say
9:40 AM [xyz] winalot was it a scam?
9:41 AM [winalot] xyz u want the whole story?
9:41 AM [xyz] winalot wow thats not good with all personal info corrected
9:41 AM [xyz] please i want to hear the whole story
9:41 AM [winalot] xyz give me a min to write it up
9:42 AM [UNEEK] winalot ty I am interested in details also
9:42 AM [heartfelt] Good Morning MIG family? Hope everyone is doing well this morning! We have more emos :hug:
9:43 AM [healthscans] Texas Mama Expendable3 I use Opera now and I really like it better than explorer. The only thing there is one website that I can't copy & paste and I don't know why. I can on MIG site.
9:44 AM [xyz] cashinqueen1 St germain trust
9:44 AM [healthscans] Expendable3 xyz chrome is with explorer, right?
9:44 AM [BOBGETZ6] xyz Glenn Beck was talking about the guy at Google on his show yesterday or the day before. Google is getting too intrusive, IMO.
9:44 AM [heartfelt] ANYONE? ...........What us it with this java stuff? Are we to disable? Won't that stop from entering chat?
9:44 AM [Expendable3] healthscans Googlechrome is chrome
9:44 AM [xyz] healthscans no its a browser just like ie or firefox
9:45 AM [Expendable3] bobgetz6 Really!
9:45 AM [Expendable3] healthscans Opera has a small foot print and uses less memory thats all I'm interersted in Light and fast
:47 AM [BOBGETZ6] Expendable3 Yep, they , I think he said, want to interview them. Not sure he was comfortable with that.
9:47 AM [cashinqueen1] 1-12-2013 Intel Guru Winalot [did the banks open in Iraq?] yes...and cbi had an auction.
9:47 AM [Expendable3] bobgetz6 i bet
9:47 AM [xyz] BOBGETZ6 it has been for a while now
9:47 AM [healthscans] Expendable3 yes you sent me there several months ago and I am totally happy with it.
9:47 AM [pepper] heartfelt some chat room we can't get in without it so i don't know what tosay.....
9:48 AM [pepper] healthscans or pogo etc.
9:48 AM [Expendable3] healthscans Cool
9:48 AM [heartfelt] xyz are we to disable java? How are we to get in?
9:48 AM [heartfelt] pepper thank you ... too early to be confused!!!
9:49 AM [winalot] xyz... I had the occasion to talk to Clayton Hanna on severaloccasions... because of a forgotten zip code. While talkingto him, i was able to suggest ways for him to speed up his process. that lead to many phone calls. I am the one who suggested that they use an online app process. anyway... about 2 weeks ago, he told me that he found out that it was NOT St Germain at all, but an individual using that name to draw attention, and add legitimacy. I have not conversed with him sence, and I doubt that he would converse with me after the few choice words i had for him!
9:49 AM [BOBGETZ6] I am going to contact CCF when he gets up and ask him if he will write a blurb about the issues that we can spam.
9:50 AM [willietrader] heartfelt me to not sure what it all means yet on java
9:51 AM [BOBGETZ6] heartfelt GM and yes there are issues trying to get resolved. Very complex, at least for me to understand.
9:51 AM [xyz] winalot tyvm ...honesty is becoming rare on the virtual world
9:52 AM [winalot] xyz it is scarey for sure
9:52 AM [heartfelt] BOBGETZ6 Same here Bob. I felt safe and all was doing great and now this. ...oh well!
9:52 AM [heartfelt] .BJ Well join the crowd.
9:53 AM [winalot] xyz i wish i knew what they were really up to... but i would not refer anyone to do anything with them
9:55 AM [heartfelt] Doing good winalot Been busy getting ready for company to stay with me!
9:55 AM [winalot] heartfelt if u fixin a big dinner... what time should we be there??
9:56 AM [BOBGETZ6] Expendable3 My java aplet just quit. I have a partial screen shot of the details. Am going to have Apple support look at it.
U.S. warns on Java software as security concerns escalate
9:58 AM [winalot] The JAVA problem is not with this site. It is a problem that allows viruses to sneek in thru java, really nasty ones, and you can get them form any site using java. and it is spreading.
9:58 AM [jacque47] ABOUT JAVA---WORTH READING-------
http://news.yahoo.com/government-warns-java-security-concerns-escalate-160640366--sector.html;_ylt=A2KLOzKK.vBQTFAAnoTQtDMD
9:58 AM [BOBGETZ6] .BJ I have been packed and so ready to go to the bank for so log, that I had to dust of my bag.
10:00 AM [BOBGETZ6] heartfelt You are a good soul for what you are doing for your neighbors. Like the neigborhoods of yesteryear.
10:01 AM [winalot] .BJ you HAVE to see the latest in mens fashion.... http://shine.yahoo.com/p ··· 977.html
10:01 AM [willietrader] I sure hope this site doesn't crash again with java problem
10:01 AM [BOBGETZ6] .BJ Just for fun, I recounted my dinar the other night in hopes that tehy were breeding in the dark. :-)
10:02 AM [winalot] willietrader the problem is not the site! it is a security issue for your computor
10:03 AM [BOBGETZ6] pepper Have to have a little humor along the way to stay somewhat sane.
10:03 AM [pepper] Bobgetz6 i agree/
10:03 AM [winalot] ALL you men folk need to click on that link i just posted.. to see what is in fashion.. LMAO!!!
http://shine.yahoo.com/photos/ive-seen-future-mens-fashion-slideshow/-photo-2567342-210500423.html
10:04 AM [.BJ] winalot me need girl fashion..husband can find his own stuff
10:04 AM [winalot] .BJ look anyway...it is hysterical!!!
10:04 AM [BOBGETZ6] Nice day so far in the DFW area. Mid January almost and I am sitting on the patio wearing shorts and a t-shirt.
10:05 AM [timo] BOBGETZ6 ...-15C here this morning
10:05 AM [winalot] .BJ can u see your hubb iin them get-ups???
10:05 AM [pepper] BOBGETZ6 -10 here yikes
10:05 AM [timo] BOBGETZ6 ...Western Canada
10:06 AM [.BJ] BOBGETZ6 but its coming in tonight going to be colddddddddd again
0:06 AM [.BJ] winalot never he would just die !!
0:07 AM [winalot] .BJ can u see ANT man in them... that is hte question!!!!
10:07 AM [jacque47] winalot NOPE
8:58 AM [maranatha] BOBGETZ6 ty---I really appreciate all you bring
8:59 AM [BOBGETZ6] willietrader I was not here and I don't have access to the chat records. We do not keep them like other site do as that costs extra.
8:59 AM [freedom13] so far no one brings great intel not even me ,,everyone was wrong so far ,,or not panned out ,,thats the problem ,,some have great contacts BUT
9:00 AM [BOBGETZ6] freedom13 That may be true, but the people who I have mentioned, do not state dates or rates as others do.
9:00 AM [Texas Mama] Well peoples, if somebody comes on heres and disrespect all of yoo, and there are no Mods in heres, then by all means everybody needs to start calling Mods or CCF...but if they are just saying things you don't believe, then I think we need to do what we are suppose to do and that's either put thems on ignore or go do something for a while and then come back.... I don't know what happened, so I can't say, but it didn't sound good.?? shoot!
9:01 AM [MsDiva] Texas Mama good statement
9:02 AM [xyz] Texas Mama gm .... or close the ears as i often do
9:02 AM [freedom13] BOBGETZ6 YES ,,but people on chats ,,do not read posts or articles they just look and ask what did it say ,,so many peeps are lazy ,hate to say it
9:02 AM [Sparkles] i highly respect BWM and his wisdom and he does not put dates and rates out there
9:02 AM [willietrader] Texas Mama I didn't see BWM on I was kick by Jacque which I do not know why And she told me she did not have to answer to me
9:04 AM [BOBGETZ6] Anybody is free to post their opinions or whatever they want to bring, as long as they are respectful. That is all we ask and this site and we seem to have peeps, for the most part in here, who abide by that mode of operation. There are only two on this site that can ban someone permanently. I am one of them and have not had to ban anyone for over a year. That says something about our people.
9:05 AM [BOBGETZ6] freedom13 Sorry for the delay, but yes, you are correct.
9:05 AM [freedom13] i call the date and rate every day ,,i want it now
9:05 AM [capt ron] Although M&Ms are actually Dubya&Dubyas upside down. Little known fact.
9:06 AM [jimt] BOBGETZ6 Have you seen this? Department of Homeland Security advises computer users to disable Java because of security bug
9:07 AM [capt ron] winalot was addressing the java issue in recaps today.
9:07 AM [Texas Mama] did yoo see what executive order O did the other day? Security for the rest of his life on taxpayers money.
9:07 AM [capt ron] Or alerting us to it.
9:08 AM [jimt] http://news.yahoo.com/de ··· 696.html
9:08 AM [Expendable3] Anything is hackable java is no more or no less,erailer versions of it are better
9:08 AM [jacque47] ooooooooo where is peganded------when ya need him-------or aremel??????
9:09 AM [Rio51AllGo] Is it safe to be on this site? Does MIG use Java?
9:09 AM [capt ron] I feel so good about this rv that I just rolled over a layaway again this morning.
9:09 AM [BOBGETZ6] Texas Mama With what he is doing to the country, he probably raelizes that he will need it.
9:10 AM [Rio51AllGo] If I disable I can't get on, correct?
9:10 AM [Texas Mama] Rio51AllGo hold on hun...don't panic... sometimes things aren't what they seem...
9:10 AM [dice3344] capt ron...i feel good about it to, but when do u think it might go down.
9:10 AM [cashinqueen1] BOBGETZ6 frozen friend have any thoughts on sat open banking??? Foot forward seems to believe it has nothing to do with the rv?
9:11 AM [Expendable3] Rio51AllGo If Java is on your computer which 99% are your computer is vulnerable.And no you will not
9:11 AM [Expendable3] Just have a good Anti-virus and firewall
9:12 AM [BOBGETZ6] Rio51AllGo Expendable3 and all. Java has been a real pain for us as well as other sites. They update and the Addonchat that we use, doesnt always run in sync with Java. I don't understand it all, but there it is.
9:12 AM [capt ron] dice, I can't do a 'date' call any better than the best of us, but the probability of success continues to look high enough to me to increase my dinar position again.
9:13 AM [Expendable3] BOBGETZ6 DOn't run auto updates... I'm running older version Java 6.0+ currently and having no problems
9:13 AM [xyz] Expendable3 What is Java Plug-in software? The Java Plug-in software is a component of the Java Runtime Environment (JRE). The JRE allows applets written in the Java programming language to run inside various browsers. The Java Plug-in software is not a standalone program and cannot be installed separately. http://www.java.com/en/d ··· java.xml
9:14 AM [capt ron] Just remember, M&Ms are actually Dubyas&Dubyas in disguise.
9:14 AM [Texas Mama] capt ron how is Philly today? cold I suppose.. yesterday here in Texas was soo bootiful I can't tell you how much I am enjoying this climate...
9:14 AM [capt ron] Cold and liberal.
9:14 AM [Texas Mama] capt ron
9:15 AM [BOBGETZ6] cashinqueen1 Yes, he does. It, in his opinion, is a subtle way of getting dollars off the street in preparation for an rv. It is a one to one exchange so that, in his opinion, when they rv, it will be smooth and somewhat covert.
9:15 AM [capt ron] All the streets have turns only to the left.
9:15 AM [Expendable3] xyz It works in almost every piece of software made.It's a windows issue that they never really adressed
9:15 AM [capt ron] What a mess.
9:16 AM [BOBGETZ6] Expendable3 Don't really understand the techi stuff. I just know that CCF has continual problems because of the sometimes (incompatability?) with the different services.
9:17 AM [Expendable3] BOBGETZ6 Yep it's a real pain I'm sure
9:17 AM [xyz] Expendable3 java is more than just what i am seeing in chats. its used extensively for server side programs which may have nothing to do with the warning imho ....applets is just one little piece
9:17 AM [Expendable3] esp all the updates... sometimes they work and sometimes they don't
9:17 AM [Expendable3] xyz Yep for sure xyz Ot's in all kinds of software
9:18 AM [BOBGETZ6] Expendable3 CCF is very talented with both the PC, Mac and servers an d he has to continually work on one issue or another.
9:18 AM [Expendable3] BOBGETZ6 Thats cool he's a techie
9:19 AM [winalot] The problem with ALL versions of JAVA, is it allows viruses to sneek in thru the JAVA platform, bypassing all of your security software. You can pick up key loggers, bots, and a whole host of nasties... and they are REAL nasties!
9:19 AM [Expendable3] Appreciate CCF's efforts
9:19 AM [RindsGuy] xyz Expendable3 java is a complete programming language. It's claim to fame is that anything written in java will run on any java enabled platform (windows, mac or linux). So, you don't have to rewrite the program for different operating system. Earlier version of java were very good. When Sun Microsystems ran the project. But, now Oracle owns Java. Problems started when they took over.
9:20 AM [Expendable3] Oracle has always beem a problemo
9:20 AM [xyz] winalot JAVA is more than just browsing ...if you use android, its written in java
9:20 AM [winalot] xyz yes i know!
9:20 AM [RindsGuy] Expendable3 Larry Ellison is the problem. He's an arrogant Bill Gates clone.
9:21 AM [winalot] xyz I had a keylogger on my system a few years ago... got hacked to the tune of $21,000 !
9:21 AM [RindsGuy] xyz Android is a micro linux operating system. But, all apps for android are written in Java.
9:21 AM [Texas Mama] winalot I can't get on chat through firefox anymore...as of today only?? that's weird...I updated the latest version to 18.0 but it still don't work??
9:22 AM [xyz] winalot i have not looked at it extensively but i feel that the warning may be referring to JRE
9:22 AM [Expendable3] Texas Mama try Opera Browser
9:22 AM [winalot] Texas Mama i will have to call u...
9:22 AM [cashinqueen1] Finance Officer: Iraq has the right to withdraw part of the cash reserves in the Development Fund for Iraq. 10/01/2013 11:06:00
9:22 AM [RindsGuy] Texas Mama I got a message saying I couldn't get in either. But, there was a line on my message saying "click here to try anyway" and I did and I'm still getting in.
9:22 AM [Texas Mama] Expendable3 "OPERA" what...yoo want mee to sing opera?
9:22 AM [xyz] RindsGuy yes the programs ...was not talking about os
9:22 AM [cashinqueen1] http://www.ninanews.com/ ··· Q=GFHMJF
9:23 AM [Texas Mama] RindsGuy I had to go to mee explore browser ... shoot!
9:23 AM [Dsatmhk7] Intel4u mobile is down?
9:23 AM [Expendable3] Texas Mama http://www.opera.com/
9:23 AM [cashinqueen1] Finance Officer: Iraq has the right to withdraw part of the cash reserves in the Development Fund for Iraq. http://www.ninanews.com/ ··· Q=GFHMJF so does this mean no need to rv to payoff DFI 10/01/2013 11:06:00
9:23 AM [RindsGuy] Texas Mama Don't use explorer! It's worse than java!!! :8:
9:23 AM [Expendable3] It's better than FF and Exp
9:23 AM [BOBGETZ6] Way over my head, but CCF and I along with one other person, were on a three way for over an hour discussing issues.
9:24 AM [xyz] Dsatmhk7 intel4u mobile/addonchat/mig do not use applets
9:24 AM [Dsatmhk7] Won't open
9:24 AM [Texas Mama] RindsGuy RindsGuy Oh NO! that's what I's on right now... what will happen? :8:
:25 AM [xyz] Dsatmhk7 sorry the mobile sites*
9:25 AM [rustyc] Texas Mama download a foxfire on your computer keep explorer then you can use either...
9:25 AM [BOBGETZ6] Expendable3 I am running FF and have no issues. Don't know if it matters, but I am on a Mac.
9:25 AM [RindsGuy] Texas Mama Internet Explorer is known as the "virus spreader." It's totally horrible about that. You're better off using Google Chrome for a little while until you get your Firefox issues resolved.
9:26 AM [rustyc] BOBGETZ6 mac are very go to keep closed platform
9:26 AM [briarpatch] FF is working fine for me - I'm on windows 7
9:26 AM [RindsGuy] BOBGETZ6 My firefox on my laptop runs java 7 and I have no problems getting in.
9:26 AM [Texas Mama] RindsGuy Oh okay hun...I'll go and download Chrome..shoot!
9:26 AM [winalot] Texas Mama hang on....
9:26 AM [Texas Mama] winalot what?
9:26 AM [Expendable3] BOBGETZ6 Mac maybe less vulnerable.. windows kinda sucks
9:26 AM [winalot] u don't wanna use that! they report everything you do !!!
9:26 AM [winalot] Texas Mama i will call u and help with firefox
9:26 AM [Texas Mama] ok I's got java 6 and just updated firefox to 18.0
9:27 AM [winalot] Texas Mama give me 5
9:27 AM [Texas Mama] okay...
9:27 AM [xyz] Texas Mama chrome is evil in regard to privacy imho
9:27 AM [BOBGETZ6] rustyc Didn't undersatnd your post. All I know is that I am soooooo glad I switched to Mac three years ago.
9:27 AM [Expendable3] xyz Deffinately! chrome is a data gathering monster
9:28 AM [rustyc] BOBGETZ6 basically mac is good that is what I was saying
9:28 AM [Expendable3] As is Facebook
9:28 AM [teochi] Dsatmhk7 i'm oin intel4you, no problems getting on
9:29 AM [Dsatmhk7] Mobile?
9:29 AM [jimt] Texas Mama A while back I went with Google Chrome and could not get in the MIG site and had to switch back to Explorer which I am using currently
9:29 AM [Dsatmhk7] Mobile not available
9:30 AM [RindsGuy] If anybody wants google chrome WITHOUT all the tracking stuff download this. http://www.srware.net/en ··· load.php Google Chrome is based off of the open source project called Chromium. Google takes their code and ads their tracking stuff to it. This company takes Chromium and adds more security to it. I use it under windows and have had no problems. There's also no tracking going on either.
9:30 AM [Dsatmhk7] Will you ask for me?
9:30 AM [Expendable3] RindsGuy cool
9:30 AM [BOBGETZ6] xyz Yep, they have this plan to take over the world as far as personal stuff goes. For example, I was on a Chevy site, just for kicks looking at Corvettes as I have one. The next day, guess what? An advertisement showed up from that dealership either on one of our pages or somewhere. I don't like that at all.
9:30 AM [cashinqueen1] BOBGETZ6 frozen friend have any thoughts on sat open banking??? Foot forward seems to believe it has nothing to do with the rv?
9:31 AM [RindsGuy] BOBGETZ6 That's because Google tracks your interests and then keeps that in their database. So, when you go to any site showing google ads you'll get the ads based on what they think you might like.
Well here I's is... I got in through firefox and it was a "add-on" that was not activated...but I's all good...
9:32 AM [Texas Mama] Ghost are yoos pulling mee legs?
9:32 AM [RindsGuy] BOBGETZ6 The only way to stop that would be to use a proxy for web browsing. There are some free ones out there but they are SLOW! You can pay for one if you want. My boss does that.
9:32 AM [xyz] BOBGETZ6 everywhere i go, i am followed by dinar dealers ADs .... hmm guess where they knew i invested in iqd
9:33 AM [Dsatmhk7] Me too xyz
9:34 AM [BOBGETZ6] cashinqueen1 He agrees with FF as well as FF basically agrees with him. See the posts in Dinar Detectives. Frozen feels as if the banks being open in order to be subtle about a pending rv. They are trying to get all of the dollars off the street on a one to one basis, and then at some point, WHAM, an rv. That is about as good as I can explain their differences in opinion.
9:35 AM [BOBGETZ6] xyz Expendable3 RindsGuy Is it best to just uninstall Google Chrome?
9:35 AM [teochi] Dsatmhk7 yes, they are having trouble getting in with phone, can't do it
9:36 AM [BOBGETZ6] aberry As I understand it, that is how they are making the excahnge but has no real change for us.
9:36 AM [teochi] Dsatmhk7 your welcome
:37 AM [xyz] BOBGETZ6 just dont browser with it ...and by the was if you have 'master' google account gmail/voice/etc, always sign out before searching ....and turn off history imho
9:38 AM [xyz] winalot what happened to St germain trust u talked about recently?
9:38 AM [winalot] xyz you mean about them not being who htey say they are?
9:39 AM [xyz] winalot they were not? so what happens to all info corrected?
9:40 AM [winalot] xyz no... the "grant" is NOT connected to St Germain Trust... at all!!!
9:40 AM [xyz] winalot was it a scam?
9:40 AM [winalot] xyz I spoke to Clayton Hanna many times...
9:40 AM [winalot] xyz i do not know .. but, they aren't who hey say
9:40 AM [xyz] winalot was it a scam?
9:41 AM [winalot] xyz u want the whole story?
9:41 AM [xyz] winalot wow thats not good with all personal info corrected
9:41 AM [xyz] please i want to hear the whole story
9:41 AM [winalot] xyz give me a min to write it up
9:42 AM [UNEEK] winalot ty I am interested in details also
9:42 AM [heartfelt] Good Morning MIG family? Hope everyone is doing well this morning! We have more emos :hug:
9:43 AM [healthscans] Texas Mama Expendable3 I use Opera now and I really like it better than explorer. The only thing there is one website that I can't copy & paste and I don't know why. I can on MIG site.
9:44 AM [xyz] cashinqueen1 St germain trust
9:44 AM [healthscans] Expendable3 xyz chrome is with explorer, right?
9:44 AM [BOBGETZ6] xyz Glenn Beck was talking about the guy at Google on his show yesterday or the day before. Google is getting too intrusive, IMO.
9:44 AM [heartfelt] ANYONE? ...........What us it with this java stuff? Are we to disable? Won't that stop from entering chat?
9:44 AM [Expendable3] healthscans Googlechrome is chrome
9:44 AM [xyz] healthscans no its a browser just like ie or firefox
9:45 AM [Expendable3] bobgetz6 Really!
9:45 AM [Expendable3] healthscans Opera has a small foot print and uses less memory thats all I'm interersted in Light and fast
:47 AM [BOBGETZ6] Expendable3 Yep, they , I think he said, want to interview them. Not sure he was comfortable with that.
9:47 AM [cashinqueen1] 1-12-2013 Intel Guru Winalot [did the banks open in Iraq?] yes...and cbi had an auction.
9:47 AM [Expendable3] bobgetz6 i bet
9:47 AM [xyz] BOBGETZ6 it has been for a while now
9:47 AM [healthscans] Expendable3 yes you sent me there several months ago and I am totally happy with it.
9:47 AM [pepper] heartfelt some chat room we can't get in without it so i don't know what tosay.....
9:48 AM [pepper] healthscans or pogo etc.
9:48 AM [Expendable3] healthscans Cool
9:48 AM [heartfelt] xyz are we to disable java? How are we to get in?
9:48 AM [heartfelt] pepper thank you ... too early to be confused!!!
9:49 AM [winalot] xyz... I had the occasion to talk to Clayton Hanna on severaloccasions... because of a forgotten zip code. While talkingto him, i was able to suggest ways for him to speed up his process. that lead to many phone calls. I am the one who suggested that they use an online app process. anyway... about 2 weeks ago, he told me that he found out that it was NOT St Germain at all, but an individual using that name to draw attention, and add legitimacy. I have not conversed with him sence, and I doubt that he would converse with me after the few choice words i had for him!
9:49 AM [BOBGETZ6] I am going to contact CCF when he gets up and ask him if he will write a blurb about the issues that we can spam.
9:50 AM [willietrader] heartfelt me to not sure what it all means yet on java
9:51 AM [BOBGETZ6] heartfelt GM and yes there are issues trying to get resolved. Very complex, at least for me to understand.
9:51 AM [xyz] winalot tyvm ...honesty is becoming rare on the virtual world
9:52 AM [winalot] xyz it is scarey for sure
9:52 AM [heartfelt] BOBGETZ6 Same here Bob. I felt safe and all was doing great and now this. ...oh well!
9:52 AM [heartfelt] .BJ Well join the crowd.
9:53 AM [winalot] xyz i wish i knew what they were really up to... but i would not refer anyone to do anything with them
9:55 AM [heartfelt] Doing good winalot Been busy getting ready for company to stay with me!
9:55 AM [winalot] heartfelt if u fixin a big dinner... what time should we be there??
9:56 AM [BOBGETZ6] Expendable3 My java aplet just quit. I have a partial screen shot of the details. Am going to have Apple support look at it.
U.S. warns on Java software as security concerns escalate
9:58 AM [winalot] The JAVA problem is not with this site. It is a problem that allows viruses to sneek in thru java, really nasty ones, and you can get them form any site using java. and it is spreading.
9:58 AM [jacque47] ABOUT JAVA---WORTH READING-------
http://news.yahoo.com/government-warns-java-security-concerns-escalate-160640366--sector.html;_ylt=A2KLOzKK.vBQTFAAnoTQtDMD
9:58 AM [BOBGETZ6] .BJ I have been packed and so ready to go to the bank for so log, that I had to dust of my bag.
10:00 AM [BOBGETZ6] heartfelt You are a good soul for what you are doing for your neighbors. Like the neigborhoods of yesteryear.
10:01 AM [winalot] .BJ you HAVE to see the latest in mens fashion.... http://shine.yahoo.com/p ··· 977.html
10:01 AM [willietrader] I sure hope this site doesn't crash again with java problem
10:01 AM [BOBGETZ6] .BJ Just for fun, I recounted my dinar the other night in hopes that tehy were breeding in the dark. :-)
10:02 AM [winalot] willietrader the problem is not the site! it is a security issue for your computor
10:03 AM [BOBGETZ6] pepper Have to have a little humor along the way to stay somewhat sane.
10:03 AM [pepper] Bobgetz6 i agree/
10:03 AM [winalot] ALL you men folk need to click on that link i just posted.. to see what is in fashion.. LMAO!!!
http://shine.yahoo.com/photos/ive-seen-future-mens-fashion-slideshow/-photo-2567342-210500423.html
10:04 AM [.BJ] winalot me need girl fashion..husband can find his own stuff
10:04 AM [winalot] .BJ look anyway...it is hysterical!!!
10:04 AM [BOBGETZ6] Nice day so far in the DFW area. Mid January almost and I am sitting on the patio wearing shorts and a t-shirt.
10:05 AM [timo] BOBGETZ6 ...-15C here this morning
10:05 AM [winalot] .BJ can u see your hubb iin them get-ups???
10:05 AM [pepper] BOBGETZ6 -10 here yikes
10:05 AM [timo] BOBGETZ6 ...Western Canada
10:06 AM [.BJ] BOBGETZ6 but its coming in tonight going to be colddddddddd again
0:06 AM [.BJ] winalot never he would just die !!
0:07 AM [winalot] .BJ can u see ANT man in them... that is hte question!!!!
10:07 AM [jacque47] winalot NOPE
