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[dab63] Is there any truth that the IMF has 72 hours to activate this r/v? Heard Shabibi sent rate to IMF sunday night and the 72 hours started then and will expire wedn. nightSquirrelcheeks
[..SweetQueen] IMF does have 72 hours to activate the RV to the best of our knowledge, expect the 72 hour deadline on Wednesday at sometime
[azoldmom] If the RV does not happen till Friday, we will not be able to cash-in until next week, is this correct???
[.Katt] THAT IS CORRECT azoldmom
[Bigdog55] If the IRAQ people need this as bad as they say they do, why have they not RV before; any truth to the rumor that this RV is scheduled for tonight/tomorrow
[Asells] They have Rv'd in the past. The reason for NO large RV is that it was not the optimal time for this to go through. THis can happen any time
[FIRECRACKERMAN56] The form 4938, Does it cover the 15% flat tax for all short and long term holdings?
[AndieZ1] Yes it does and tomorrow night we will have a written opinion by a CPA posted in the forum
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_[dinarup] Please explain where we are and why many think that the turmoil in Iraq will not stop the RV?
[BWM] dinarup we are on an any minute time period... we believe before Christmas is the ideal time for this to happen... the "turmoil" in Iraq is a constant thing... Media does their best to "upgrade" the issues in Iraq because of the need to propogate their views
[chuckw] Is there any truth to the UN stepping in if Iraq does not RV by this Friday
[BWM] chuckw sanctions have been discussed to be imposed on Iraq again on the 23rd if they do not comply.. THIS DOES NOT mean they cannot RV even if they apply the sanctions again
[spiderman] will the upevil in iraq today have any influence on the RV?
[clanger] spiderman No it will not
[Jpp5] Who's hands is the RV in?
[DinarWishes] Jpp5 That would be Shabibi..... or Jonny
[bobster1] What is the consensus or prevailing thought of where we stand and when we can truly anticipate the dinar to RV?
[Gacavegirl] bobster1 within the next 24- 48 hrs
[Trouble Maker] Is all this crap from Okie about isx BS or is there truth to it as well as sanctions til Jan 1
[jonnywg] No crap from okie ever..it is opinion and while different is not compltely unbelievable. I do not con curr as a stock market is reactionary
[Eleanor] Is the UN going to be able to use trade sanctions as a means to force the RV? If so by what date?
[laurelei] Eleanor yes, by the 23rd
[1lucky1] BWM, when you say "we believe before Christmas".....is that from intel or gut feeling?
[BWM] Intel says before Christmas... my "gut" feeling was hopefully by today
[wolverine] ..SweetQueen Has the IMF having the rate since Sun night BEEN CONFIRMED?
[rapidroyp] wolverine - yes they have the rate, but they do not have the final trigger
[HEARTLANDLOCKED] what keeps the rate from bouncing on the backside of activation. are we safe at all from dramatic swings in the rate once activated
[xjchaser] Currency pairs the world market effect the rate and could be anything after it's published however because it is a mangaged float it can move wherever they want but cannot be moved more than 2% every 90 days per Iraqs constitution
[Eagle Has Landed] are you in agreement that the RV will occur on December 22-23, 2011 and that Ch 7 sanctions will not be lifted prior to then and won't even be lifted shortly thereafter; in fact Ch 7 sanctions won't be lifted for almost two years. is the Mod who answers onboard with this statement or not? thanks
[..SweetQueen] Eagle Has Landed IMO the RV should occur by Dec 23rd, nevertheless we are dealing with Iraq where nothing is set on stone, It has always been stated that the RV is amongst one of the stipulations of the lifting of Chapter VII.
[LINDEEE] It truly appears that Iraq is enjoying it's position of holding the world hostage (in a monetary sense). It also seems that they know they "have the power". How do we really hold Iraq accountable besides these sanctions?
[.Katt] LINDEEE ,Without an RV, they cannot be part of the WTO. without being part of the WTO, their oil is worthless to them. They are also eliminated from OPEC .. which they are president of. And they cannot be members of Opec. Therefore .... they are broke. They are living on borrowed time.
[ram1] I thought the opening statement tonight said "the 12-hour notice that the flag has been dropped is in effect so we expect everything to be our way before friday"?
[AndieZ1] ram1 - while its not etched in stone - the 12 notice to the UST would indicate they will be out of lockdown by 7 am CST tomorrow and therefore it looks very good for an rv
[herenow] If there are powers that be pulling the strings from on high then it seems this will RV when it suits them ... Or is there something else at play?
[Asells] herenow, Something else is always at Play. It will RV when it suits IRAQ
[avr] Was IRS form 8938 prepared for a 2011 RV?
[BWM] avr, it's for ALL foreign currency... but modifications sure seem to reflect on the specific currencies of our concern (dinar, dong, etc.) remember that currency taxes are paid on a quarterly basis hence if we RV before end of the year it would be due Jan 15 if you cash before end of year
[dinardoc] Will there really be an RV? Tonight's posting in Dinar Recaps by Bulldog raises questions, as in the RV is NOT tied in to the release from Sanctions.
[clanger] Who is Bulldog??
[jam777] CNN, the most reputable international news agency in the world, says Iraq is on the erge of a civil war ... not exactly stable. How can that not affect the RV timing ???
[DinarWishes] News Can Manipulate any Situation... The Folks that were Occupying WallStreet were displayed around the World as an Uprising In our Country
[bandit] Since we are all broke and struggling--- did the EU get their money and we are still SOL ????? IMF ??
[ArizonaHeat] The EU was to have got their money today. no confirmation on that. If they did where did the money come from?
[elpedro] Jonnywg will it be easy to cashin in Canada
[DinarWishes] elpedro We Hope So
[cheter] Do you think the rate will be $8.00 like a lot of people have said
[DinarWishes] cheter the rate will be known when it goes Live
[ram1] Jonny mentioned yesterday there was a rate adjustment. At the time he did not know if it was up or down . Has this been verified?
[laurelei] ram1 no, we have not been able to confirm or deny
[pulaski] Because of the delays and apparent unrest in Iraq would it be too risky to wait to cashin until next year?
[Nascar Guy] pulaski that is a personal choice..dont beleive everything you see on tv..
[beth120] Who has the final trigger?
[rapidroyp] beth120 Dr. Shabibi
[Bigdog55] johnnwg any truth to a post earlier about 2 banks stating they have rec'd word this is ready to RV
[DinarWishes] Bigdog55 Banks Are ready... Have been Ready...
[lonie] Do you have any intel as to whether this will be an RI or and RV?
[xjchaser] It will be a RV
[gplucas] What does it mean "the flag has been dropped?"
[..SweetQueen] gplucas WE are no longer occupiers , end of War, SOVEREIGNTY
[slh] Could Iraq put RV off till middle of next year per say? seriously
[.Katt] slh No, several answers for this. seriously
[coachdjs] With gold again over $1600 and the stock market surge today, isn't that a bad indicator of the RV being delayed?
[AndieZ1] Coach - no, the only time there will be a change in the market is post-rv - we had a market surge last week - it has nothing to do with the rv activation
[miabella] Not looking to be negative in anyway, however with the history thus far of this...what if it goes past the 72 hour deadline Wednesday, what would we be looking for at that point?. TY
[DinarWishes] miabella Before Friday.... The 72 hour deadline has to do with pulling the trigger it would have to go to the banks and then sent to the Branches... there is a process
[zerolimits] most of us are here in chat because of the company and friends, also to keep us sane thru this process. We all know that it can RV at any time however could you recap the times of updates for cbi, ust banks ect.. they might help for those who always are questioning when is the next update
[ArizonaHeat] the CBI updates sunday through thursday between 1 am est and 5 am est. ust and banks get there at midnight central also at 8 am central and 2 pm central.
[aussiesue] Thare is no information here in Australia so although all the info doen't always pan out.I appreciate everyones time in trying theire best to bring us the best they can .We would be lost at sea without a life raft if it wasn't for you guys so a BIG thank you from down under.
[DinarWishes] aussiesue Your Welcome
[dediperk08] Where will we see it first now. The cbi, the forex, the banks? Will it be announced all over or will it still be hush hush? Is already answered please disregard and i apologize
[Asells] WE would expect the CBI, then THe Banks, and forex is the last to know....
[trouble1] please explain why the other countries cannot rv without IQD
[clanger] The IQD is the sacrificial lamb. It is the multiplier and is the apple of many countries
[Debz] I heard on a call the other night while talking about the new form 4938 that there were some tax incentives.....didn't get the whole thing...do u all know anything about this? Thx
[DinarWishes] There will be a Profesional to answer that question Thursday Night and the Time will be posted in the forum... Looking to be around ^6pm EST
[Mavis] does anyone know where to get the form 4938? I searched the IRS site to no avail.
[Gacavegirl] Mavis go to your IRS office... not available online just yet ...PER BWM
[JimmySmack] Are we still operating under the premise that the rv will 100% happen, since the KWD did at one point?
[DinarWishes] Without a Doubt... It Will Happen
[Trouble Maker] What happened to all the pressure from China?
[jonnywg] China basically got all that they wanted
[..tigger1] Ok we have to wait 24 to 47 hrs and the have a rate and there is only a very few people who no the rate and everyone has said we are going to be very surprise, how do we have that information or is it speculation on some good intel?
[DinarWishes] ..tigger1 No One knows the rate till its posted.... Period..
[dediperk08] When we go to cash out, are we going to be hit with hidden fees from ust, banks etc and if so will your post rv pkgs let us know how to handle those fees.
[.Katt] dediperk08 Those will be posted in the forums. If you're a member in the forums, you're privvy to that information. Jonnywg will be mailing packages to Australia for assistance in their negotiations with their banks. Stay tuned..It's getting goooder and goooder
[bigdaddyharris] this is relative to the Minister that they have supposedley put out a warrant for terrorism... Does this seem to have any bearing at all on the RV?
[laurelei] bigdaddyharris We believe this is smoke.
[cantwait] After IMF's 72 hours are up, is the decision to RV passed on to someone for final steps? and if so, what is their deadline for processing?
[..SweetQueen] cantwait deadline is Dec. 23rd as per IMF, release was done by Shabibi, processing can take up to 48 hours.
[sSTAR] Question: If we RV on Friday, does that mean we cannot cash in till after Christmas/first of the year?
[.Katt] sSTAR Pretty much... most banks will be closed this weekend, Monday will be closed according to banks.... Look to the 12/27 if that's when we RV. Oh.. btw.. 12/27 IS MY BDAY! HINT HINT.. WOOTWOOT
[citizensoldier] Is there any truth to the rumor that choosey mothers choose PIF? Thank you, everyone of you Mods!!
[DinarWishes] PIF said thats why they Love em
[laurelei] citizensoldier Katt chose him thats enough
[HEARTLANDLOCKED] Is the Iraqi government paying current contracts at rates that are conditional to a revalued currency? Is this confirmed? Also, the US has stated that they are buying oil from Iraq at a reduced rate, how can the US capitalize on this contract without Iraq being released to trade internationally?
[AndieZ1] Yes. Yes. If they go back on sanctions the U.S. takes control, rv their currency and run their country. If the U.S. is running their country, they can do whatever they want.
[jonnywg] bwm and jonny are assisting the mod group
[SKY] have the dinar dealers been ordered to stop selling?
[xjchaser] The dealers will never stop selling dinar that's what they do
[HEARTLANDLOCKED] With Shabibi being the identified trigger puller, does it remove the US politicians from really taking any claim during the upcoming elections?
[ArizonaHeat] no they will manipulate anything they can to get you to listen to them
[Eleanor] By any remote chance do any one of you know why Shabibi hasn't pulled the trigger or pushed the button before now?
[ArizonaHeat] looking to get confirmation if it has or has not been pulled
[ktsj] if imf paid trillion dollars for euro bail out and has approved 145 countries to rv to reset global economy and iraq is the country that will reset global economy...and all this has been a plan in action for 8 plus years now,how can this now be left up to iraq to decide when it happens??
[clanger] The requirment placed by the UN is Chapter 7. They have to fulfill Chapter 7 requirments prior to the RV
[...andi] If the RV doesn't happen by the deadline, does the UN step in? what happens? who takes over and what does that mean for the little guys like us? thanks!
[DinarWishes] UN Does not step in.... Sanctions are imposed by the UN but the USA steps back in as Administrators of their Country and all their Financial Dealings...
[mordikimoe] Do you know how many countries have purchased dinar in order "pay down" their debt? Thx.
[xjchaser] Unknown but several countries have
[borealistx] I've been told to negotiate for the CBI rate on cashin. How can the bank or dealer make any money on the transaction if they pay the CBI rate?
[DinarWishes] borealistx They can lend more money because the amount of cash on hand at the bank... They make money hand over fist from being able to Use the Money...
[sfmhi] Some are saying the the GOI is still not formed officially and that is the hold-up of the RV. Those intel folks say next week is a better possibility of the RV. What's your collected take on this?
[ArizonaHeat] there is no intel that the GOI has not been formed. this is moving forward
[drcarolyn] do you see anyway that "they" can prevent us, the little fish, from cashing in? (Supposedly the big whales already have cashed in)
[DinarWishes] drcarolyn No
[msjeta1] how can LeGarde, Obama, and others keep referring to Iraq as a soverign nation when they have not revalued the currency I thought that was a provision to sovereignty?
[ArizonaHeat] in most speeches LeGarde has said. "to help iraq IN THEIR SOVEREIGNTY" same with pres O
[ArizonaHeat] not a soverign nation
[hollyberry] will the irs track us cashing in say a $1000 dinar note if we take cash for it and don't put it in our bank account?
[DinarWishes] hollyberry If you cash in Dinar the IRS will know
[buffalobob] So, where does this leave the "basket" as far as the other countries adjusting their values? I.E.,,,,,, the 00.0000's
[jonnywg] all 155 countries will have vakues on RV
[...andi] Wouldn't America want to "own" Iraq (if they go back on the sanctions) so the US could RV the dinar at $1 for $1 and keep the money at a lower rate so as to profit further by having control of Iraq and the resources they hold? or am I mistaken and reading into this wrong?
[DinarWishes] The US wants a High Rate to trade for oil
[1butch] at 9.31 dw answered cant wait that it was released by shabibi was that a typo or has it been released? thnx
[DinarWishes] The rate was supposedly released.... we are trying to get conformation