1:13 PM [bear5642] OK I NEED TO SAY THIS; I GOT SEVERAL CALLS FROM PEOPLE ABOUT SOMEONE GIVING ADVICE WHICH IS TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE TO ME. TELLING PEOPLE NOT TO GIVE THE BANKS CORRECT INFORMATION ABOUT YOURSELF WHEN YOU GO TO CASH IN BEING VERY DECEITFUL AND JUST FLAT OUT RIGHT WRONG. I WANT TO TELL YOU THAT WE FEEL RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR FUTURE. WE WANT TO SET UP A ROUND TABLE CALL TO JUST HELP YOU WITH YOUR INVESTMENT AND WILL HAVE IT ROLLING IN 4 DAYS AFTER THE RV. PLEASE DO THE FOLLOWING: • SET UP A NON INTEREST BEARING CHECKING ACCOUNT • NON INTEREST BEARING CHECKING ACCOUNT HAS NO LIMITS ON INSURANCE ACCORDING TO AN FDIC RULING (SEE THE UST SITEON FDIC LIMITS) • YOU WILL THEN HAVE 30 DAYS TO GET SOME CLEAR DIRECTION AND GUIDANCE AS WHAT TO DO. • OKIE, POPPY2, SCOTTIG AND MYSELF WILL BE IN THIS ROUNDTABLE TO DICUSSION TO MERELY ASSIST YOU AND ANSWER QUESTIONS • WE DO NOT WANT YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATION, NOR DO WE WANT TO KNOW HOW MUCH YOU HAVE AQUIRED • OUR INTEREST IS TO HELP YOU PRESERVE YOUR INVESTMENT • THE WOLVES WILL COME FROM EVERYWHERE LIKE COCK ROACHES WHEN YOU TURN OFF THE LIGHTS • WE UNDERSTAND THE MAJORITY OF US HAVE NEVER HAD SUCH WEALTH AND ARE REALLY INGNORANT WHEN IT COMES TO MAKING THE RIGHT DECISISONS • IT WOULD BE ASHAME TO HAVE SPENT ALL OF THIS TIME AND THEN JUST LEAVE SO VULNERABLE AND AS A MINSTER I HAVE TO ANSWER TO GOD FOR THIS
1:16 PM [scotti g] I am always troubled when I see and hear of irresponsible recommendations by people who may think they are helping but are actually creating a potential nightmare for individuals. Let me first say that you do not want to be deceitful with banks, the IRS or any other individual or agency. It is wrong, dishonest and will come back and one day bites you in the lower portions of the backside! You must be smart and responsible. Do not just run out and do things because someone claims this is the way to go. When I was much younger, I listened to some of the conspiracy nonsense that is still around 30 years later. I trusted and acted on some information thinking I was a 10’ tall and bulletproof Texan. Wrong, wrong so wrong. I followed advice from someone and had just enough smarts to get myself into extremely deep trouble with the IRS. Let me tell you….you do not want to mess with these folks. You are not smarter than they are and they have the full backing of the US Federal Government behind them. You won’t like the outcome! MORE TO COME
1:17 PM [scotti g] I have mentioned that the Dewy round table group will be doing some calls post RV specific to security, safety and cashing in. My brother Bear has added some nice ideas to this and it would probably be smart to do a couple of calls where we could give you ideas and resources for you as individual investors to check out for to find what is suitable to you. Why do it this way as opposed to the big get-togethers that some are recommending? Safety and security is the answer. DonnieR and I did the first call about this in May trying to lay some groundwork specific to this. We will bring two of the most qualified individuals anyone could speak with about safety and security post RV! I assure you that you will not want to miss this call. Please be smart and do not expose yourselves to the many dangers of going to these ‘announced large get-togethers’. The risks far outweigh the potential fun or benefits.
1:18 PM [bear5642] THIS IS COMING FROM A PERSON WHO IN A PERIOD OF 2 YEARS LOST 1.5 MILLION DOLLARS AND I HAVE NOTHING TO SHOW FOR EXCEPT A LESSON WELL LEARNED
1:18 PM [scotti g] And boy does it leave a mark!
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1:19 PM [scotti g] I cannot state loudly enough that each person needs to be smart and take the time to be responsible for learning and educating themself!
1:21 PM [bear5642] I HOPE I HAVE NOT OFFENDED ANYONE AND WE ARE TRULY TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE THE PM I HAVE BEEN EGTTING FROM SOEM OF YOU CONCERNS ME DEARLY AND WE SPOKE TO OIKE ABOUT THIS AND WE CAME TO AGREEMENT TO CONTINUE THIS FOR THE GOOD OF YOU PEOPLE I WILL PERSOANLLY COVER ALL OF THE EXPSENSES TO HELP YOU
1:21 PM [scotti g] Many of our family are entering a whole new arena and may never have the opportunity to repeat this blessing. You must be wise with the blessing you are receiving. Do not just go willy nilly and start giving it all away. If you want to give, find a smart financial adviser who will help you to set up an account which can enable you to give for years to come!
1:22 PM [bear5642] NOW I HOPE YOU SEE THE SEVERITY OF WHERE WE ARE AT PEOPLE AND WE NEED TO PLAN OR WE PLAN TO FAIL.
1:23 PM [scotti g] We must be smart. Plan with wisdom and do not opperate out of fear or intimidation!
1:24 PM [..SweetQueen] IMO, THE BEST ADVICE GIVEN IS TO SEEK PROFFESSIONAL HELP WITH A CPA, TAX ATTORNEY, TRUST ATTORNEY, FINANCIAL ADVISER, WE HERE AT OOM SITE WANT WHAT IS BEST FOR YOU, AND WILL ADVICE YOU ON WHAT WE FEEL IS BEST, WE REPORT.... YOU DECIDE.....
1:25 PM [BWM] [cincybeliever] When I cash in do I need to prove where I got the dinar?
1:25 PM [scotti g] We are not tax or financial professionals and thus we cannot and will not tell you how to do anything. We only want to help guide you to professionals who can help!
1:26 PM [bear5642] CINCYBELIEVER ALL THAT WILL BE NEEDED IS THE VALIDIY OF YOUR CURRENCY
1:26 PM [scotti g] BWM I do not believe that would be the case. If you were bringing foreign currency into the country, you do not have to prove where you obtained it!
1:26 PM [bear5642] WE WANT OT JUST POINT YOU IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND MAKE SURE YOU ARE IN CONTROL AND NOT PANIC AND FEAR AND FOOLISHNESS
1:27 PM [BWM] [hotwheels] How comfortable are each of you feeling about this truly coming to a close by Tuesday/Wednesday?
1:27 PM [bear5642] HOTWHEELS WE WOULD NOT BE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION IF IT WERE NOT REAL
1:26 PM [dinarmama7] [oublood] is it today we will see it ?
1:28 PM [bear5642] OUBLOOD WE ARE BELIEVING NO LATER THAN TUESDAY BUT CAN HAPPEN AT ANY TIME
1:29 PM [scotti g] We are extremely close. That is all that needs to be said. I was some numbskull in skuttlebutt post that it wont happen for a long time That is ignorant and irresponsible. It is also not true!
1:29 PM [BWM] [xyz] You would not want the tellers to be able to see your account,, right ? So thats why you nned to get a private banker,,correct? Maybe that what they where trying to say ?
1:30 PM [bear5642] STOP WITH THE CONSPIRACY THEORY GARBAGE xyz
1:30 PM [scotti g] BWM xyz you will be dealing with a highly regulated bank entity. The tellers, the bank manager or anyone in the bank has guidelines they must follow! Why mention stuff like that?
1:31 PM [BWM] [ajob] I am going to talk to 2 different law firms that handle trusts and asset protection. What red flags should I look for to make sure they are looking out for my best interest and not theirs?
1:32 PM [bear5642] AJOB YOU BETTER AHVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH TTHESE PEOPLE AND CHECK THEIR REFERANCES
1:33 PM [scotti g] ajob that is a good question. You must use your own judgement on that. Let me say that your gut is not a bad friend and you whould use common sense and logic to assess if what they are recommending is truly for your benefit or for them to make money. You mentioned the smartest thing you could do and that is to talk to more than one!
1:32 PM [BWM] [southaroilgroup] Thank you for speaking of not lying to the banks/IRS....been there. Also lost significant money by frittering it away. Do you have any information on the tax rate to be paid? Thanks
1:34 PM [bear5642] 15% CAPITAL GAINS TAX WILL BE WHAT YOU APY SOUTHAROILGROUP
1:33 PM [capt crunch] iPad -question pleas..... Why is 30 day window continuing to be mentioned? What do you feel would happen after that period? Thank you
1:34 PM [scotti g] capt crunch We do not know specifics. We are hearing that there MAY BE some adjustments post RV. It might be smart to not wait and find out. That is all I can say on that!
1:35 PM [bear5642] CAPT CRUNCH THATS AFFIRMATIVE AND WE ARE TRYING TO PUT YOU IN A PSOITION TO MAKE WISE SOUNDS DECISISONS
1:35 PM [scotti g] bear5642 That is to the best of our understanding. We are still attempting to verify that 100% This was given to our banker after much research and speaking with IRS agents!
1:35 PM [dinarmama7] [sing4u2] since the rich do travel, are there any safe guards you can recommend for those of us who plan to travel post-rv?
1:37 PM [scotti g] dinarmama7 sing4u2 I would recommend that you research that with wealth managers or bank business managers who might be able to guide you to the best answer! That was the last question for me. I have to go...Oh and Shasta7 I have not been able to make it to the fire today. Hoping to get there soon.
1:38 PM [bear5642] SING42 JUST DONT BRING ANY LARGE AMOUNTS OF CASH WITH YOU
1:39 PM [bear5642] NO IM DONE I HOPE WE HAVE BEEN HELPFUL TO YOU AND DO APPRECAITE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASSIST AND SERVE YOU. MY HEART IS TOO SERVE AND BE A BLESSING AND IM DEFIANTELY NOT DOING THIS FOR ONE RED CENT.
1:39 PM [scotti g] I would like to mention that I am going to run point to connect with some leaders in the Bastrop area to help provide some clothing and toys for families and children. Those of you who are interested...please talk to your church, Temple or groups which you hang out with and see if you want to join in. I have not worked out the logistics yet but we can talk about this real soon!