BGG Roundtable Chat 8-19-15 Part 2 of 2
BGG: says to jackflash101st Sounds like it - who knows how that will end.
BGG: says to jackflash101st Mahmoud already tried to resign.
BGG: Wow -
BGG: [the report] - emphasizes that what happened before the fall of Mosul was planned by al-Maliki in order to return to power and picking the third mandate until the door drop Sunni leaders in the western regions and the declaration of emergency law that allows him to control and put the Kurdistan region with a fait accompli,
BGG: which I said over and over - no one cared much (at the time) to listen...
BGG: WOW - as I read this whole report, it strikes me, the reason Maliki is coming back (or has - or will Thursday)... reference is made to the fact, if he stays gone his political influence ends QUICKLY.
BGG: their words...
BGG: ...because in the absence of his return or delay will end the political future quickly,...
BGG: what we view as one way - may be that he has no other option.
BGG: if he stays gone - it's over for him quicker.
BGG: all of this from this article...
BGG: After the abolition of his post and moving to convict him judicially .. Maliki in the face of the unknown
Wmawhite: Iran could have told him to leave.........they are under some pressure from the international community.
BGG: says to rcookie hey you - thanks for all the great news..
BGG: says to rcookie research - we all appreciate it.
faith1: whoops... Bonds and WTO assention... any new info and/or your opinion?
BGG: says to faith1 Not from me - Mr White??
faith1: bonds and wto assention ,,any new news and / or new info...opinions?
faith1: I understand Iraq has to transact in country in their reality rate for full assention to WTO ,,and doing that allows trade internationaly... what is your opinion on WTO and assention or full membership privledges??
wmawhite: There is a ton of info about the bond in US media.
BGG says to faith: They have other issues in front of them right this very second.
Wmawhite: U.S. News and World Report.....
Wmawhite: Ap and Reuters
BGG: says to faith than the WTO - Bonds are a focus though (that is an immediate budgetary issue).
faith1 TY.. I saw some of that..
dale: I don't know how the process works, but I thought that Maliki was going to be tried by the International Court. If he stays would Mahmoud be appointed the judge for the International Court?
BGG: says to dale: I highly doubt that.
Dale: That's what I thought.
BGG: says to dale: The ICC won't have anything to do with Mahmoud... and he may well resign yet. There was only news that the SJC (council) didn't want to accept his resignation. Anyone with a s**** of brain left will put some space between themselves and Maliki - ASAP
itsaboutjesus: has any of you heard anything concerning the trade agreement between Iraq and Brazil? Last week's report said it'll be signed this week; do we have ink on which day are they signing it?
Itsaboutjesus: faith1's WTO question reminded me of Brazil ... because Brazil has been elected to be head of WTO 1-2 years ago
BGG: says to itsaboutjesus: I have not... much like the WTO - they have much more pressing issues.
BGG: Turkey: in the case of al-Maliki (delirium - he's delirious )
Horsegal: LOL he has multiple psychiatric disorders!
BGG: responding to Turkey's foreign, Wednesday, on charges of President of the former Iraqi government Nuri al-Maliki launched from Tehran, where he lives now and in which he said, that "what happened in Mosul was a conspiracy was planned in Ankara and then moved plot to Erbil. "
BGG: Tehran - "where he lives now"...
BGG: She described the Turkish Foreign Maliki's comments as "delirium accused number one fall of Mosul and the flight of the army in front of a few fighters and misappropriation of funds of Iraq and the destruction of built fully infrastructure."
said Turkish Foreign Ministry spokesman, Tango Bagheij, that "al-Maliki is in charge of the President on the crisis, which Iraq taking place today, and the resulting policies repressive, and discriminatory, and exclusionary and his words are contrary to reason and logic. "
BGG: He went on Bagheij, that "the organization Daash dominated Mosul, during the period of al-Maliki, the presidency of the Council of Ministers in Iraq, and that 70 thousand soldiers from the Iraqi army, who were under his command fled in one day, in front of about 1,500 component of Daash,
according data that pointed to it, and handed over the city to them, it is useful to recall that al-Maliki is on the list of those responsible for the fall of Mosul. "
BGG: Under Maliki 70,000 troops ran in front of 1,500 ISIS fighters...
BGG: He added, Tango "The delirium Maliki stems from...
BGG: (His crazy talk...)
jackflash101: I read some where that Maliki promised isis 1/3 of Iraq if they could get rid of Abadi and dimish all his power...your thoughts?
BGG says to jackflash101st: More crazy talk - there is no way anyone wants another helping of Maliki. Not even Iran.
jackflash101st: sounds good and thank you
BGG says to jackflash101st: I get the sense - the reason Maliki came back - or is coming back (and there is no proof he is - could all be hype)... is if he doesn't make a play now - he's done quickly.
BGG says to jackflash101st: according to their reports.
jackflash101st: So much info out there its hard to really know whats going on over there
BGG says to jackflash101st: That is accurate.
jackflash101st: Whats abadi really up to
itsaboutjesus: do we by any chance have someone from Iraq (or conduct biz in Iraq) among us in DU?? Just curious
BGG says to itsaboutjesus: Slim
BGG says to itsaboutjesus: excuse - me a couple of folks do have 1st and 2nd hand contacts.
itsaboutjesus : thought if we have "boots" on the ground, can "see" a better picture?
BGG says to itsaboutjesus: but those are very rare.
Itsaboutjesus: that's true
BGG says to itsaboutjesus: and even if they weren't rare - the access required to get that intel is even rarer.
Itsaboutjesus: yeah, that's true ..... I bet, besides feeling the actual pain of financial crisis, they problem read news like we do
BGG says to itsaboutjesus: my advice - follow us on twitter - nothing happens IN THE WORLD some ding-a-ling doesn't tweet about it (lol)
GrannieAnnie: Like a very close friend of mine said yesterday...The Arabic language is very complex. They have approx 1000 words and many words mean different things.
You have to be able to hear what they say and see thier gestures to understand. And for us, that is hard to do. As these articles are written for Iraqi's...not us. So it is confusing for us to understand what they really are saying and meaning.
BGG says to GrannieAnnie: Thanks for that -
itsaboutjesus says to GrannieAnnie: on top of that, you have see through the lens of their culture and thinking process too
slh5282: any news on the discussions regarding HCL?
BGG says to slh5282: moving forward (according to their recent reports).
billionaire says to BGG: have you heard anything regarding amnesty LAW?
BGG says to billionaire: same as HCL - fairly high priority according to their recent reports...
BGG says to billionaire: this ouster of Maliki may prove very beneficial to Iraq and Abadi.
BGG says to billionaire: if they get alot done shortly after his demise - you can assume how much of an obstructionist he was.
Pablo : Any news about Alalak?
BGG says to Pablo: nope - not yet...
BGG: Ok gang - tune in tonight for News Time with Millionday!!