BondLady] malikis popularity with the people has increased now it was 77%now its 85%
[campdav] wow Thats huge
[BondLady] i'm tellin you if they don't pass the PM law limiting the terms he will run again and win and it'll be a majority government this time a chance for him to truly excel in rebuilding iraq and passing much needed laws
[BondLady] what should have happened this term but the stupid power sharing doomed it to fail and keep them constantly fighting
[DogzNova] but can it work long term.. If they can't share
[BondLady] yes a pm has to be able to choose their own gov if they can't you saw what this term did absolutly nothing or very little so busy fighting over power they won't see the peoples needs just like the infrastructure law which would do so much for the people and give over 1 millon jobs
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[BondLady] make people feel worthwhile again give them pride in bringing home a paycheck to support their homes and familys
[BondLady] building 1000's of much needed schools to get the young people in instead of joining terrorist groups
[BondLady] educate the people away from religious cleric fanatics give them a future but the power sharing now stopped that as they used it for a bargaining chip
[BondLady] pass the amnesty law in its current form and free the majority of terrorist sentenced or waiting to be sentenced or you won't get to have the infrastructure law and help the people its such bs
[BondLady] and even in a majority gov they still have parl and fed gov to ride shot gun over it all so its still power sharing but just giving the rightful right of the one who won PM to set his own gov this is true democracy not the farce of power sharingin a fairy tale world far far away from the middle east then a power share would work
[DogzNova] oh.. I see... It's like when our pres comes in.. he brings his own peeps in.. Sure I understand
[BondLady] or maybe 50 yrs down the road when all these old school one's then maybe but now no way
[campdav] BondLady Like you say u have been following all this for a long time and the facts are the facts, in a sea of confusion you have diligently sifted the facts and while all are out there fighting Maliki they struggle how he could be so....................... and still be in there
[BondLady] i'll come out and say this one thing i understand campy and it because others don't trully understand they think what they do
[campdav] And BTW how they could call allawi a hero blows my mind
[BondLady] all this fighting your seeing in bagdad and the kurds go through the fighting there doing over whos army should be guarding Iraq well there's only one Iraq and the kurds are in Iraq the kurd areas the kurds want to be guardians of because what saddam did to them and others on down the line through history
[BondLady] the kurds have seen their share of slavery and others trying to basically take them out completely this is not even what maliki is trying to do here when the erbril agreements were set the kurds had several demands they wanted met the hcl and article 140 also making kurd language be put on the currency
[BondLady] also iraq to acknowledge all saddam did to them in basically trying to make them extinct annihilate them they wanted to be major players in Iraq and for the gov to recognize them and the gov did this
[BondLady] and the gov passed the laws to have kurd language put on the money when that'll be released we dont know which brings us to the hcl and article 140
[BondLady] if these two things alone were so easy to do they would have been settled years ago but they are not
[BondLady] these two things alone have been a thorn in the sides of all of iraq for years and years
[BondLady] hcl is being worked on, its no easy task when your dealing with a country whos lust for greed and power drives them their so afraid someone else is going to get a cent more than the other
[BondLady] the last part of the hcl ] the thorny part is the profit sharing who gets what ..where...and how much
[BondLady] thats the point of contention they must do to appease all of them, thats what their working on, the rest is already in place
[BondLady] now this brings us to article 140 the conflicts going on between maliki and barzani barzani demandeed article 140 be done thats what a lot of their fighting is about now over disputed areas of article 140 of the constitution
[BondLady] for this to happen they all can't be winners theres going to be losers too some will have to give up some of these areas so they can go to there rightful owners and the iraqi army should be the only army to guard all of iraq, this is in the constitution
[BondLady] also in the constitution is the kurds and because of what saddam did to them they are allowed there own protection the pershmerga army a kurd army but the bottom line here is the kurds are in Iraq and iraq is their country
[BondLady] kurdistan is a province WITHIN Iraq not outside of it so theres conflicts on settling this part of article 140
[BondLady] they fight to solve their problems its the middle eastern way and if you want to understand iraq and iraqi culture and iraq politics then you have to get out of your western thinking to do it otherwise you will never understand and the opinons which you form won't be right because your looking out of the eyes of a whole seperate culture
[BondLady] no matter how right you think you are when you read iraq news if your reading it as you would american newspapers then your gonna be wrong on your interpretation of them i have through my work skills as a profiler learned and studied each of the major players in iraq politics thats how i know whats right from wrong and what they mean and say
[BondLady] i've basically gotten into their heads and its a crappy place to be but i had to do it to be able to understand the mind set of this culture of people and until you can basically do the same thing ...your gonna be stuck in your way of thinking and not see things the way iraqis do
[BondLady] so they will fight this crap out its what they do its how they settle their issues it does cost bloodshed all the time its what they do they thrive on bartering and crisis its how they settle things and they eventually will but on iraqs sundial not your timex thank you
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Baghdad and Erbil: a mechanism for application of the 2009 agreement on the security of the mixed areas
The time on Saturday, 24 October / 2 November 2012 11:59. | Published on Saturday, November 24 2 / November 2012 11:59. | Written by: Aurnews. | |
Baghdad / Orr News
Kurdistan Alliance bloc said that the two delegations and military technicians of the Peshmerga forces and federal military forces will begin within the next two days the arrangements necessary for the truce agreement between the center and the region on the ground in mixed areas.
A member of the Alliance Hassan Jihad said that "the talks between within the past two days House Speaker Osama Nujaifi with both Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki and Kurdish President Massoud Barzani and approved an agreement 2009 to manage mixed areas jointly led to the approval of Barzani to start a technical delegation from the province consider appropriate formulas for this agreement which paves not only calm, but to discuss all the points of disagreement between the parties and in accordance with the Constitution and signed agreements. "
Jihad predicted that "crystallizes technicians from both parties common points so that the entire Iraqi administration and Iraqi and guarantees in order to reach a permanent settlement of the issue of the disputed areas so are not taken to overcome the ceiling of the Constitution."
The head of the House of Representatives Osama Najafi has launched an initiative to defuse the crisis between Baghdad and Erbil met on the track in Baghdad Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki also met in Erbil Kurdistan leader Massoud Barzani was reached during these meetings back to the agreement in 2009 and a judge of running mixed areas joint administration .
Poll: Maliki still enjoys high popularity popular than his opponents
11/21/2012 8:46News , Picture of the Dayno comments "Gate" Baghdad: Jafar Nazareth (Special) - A poll conducted by the "gate" in Baghdad that Maliki still enjoys high popularity popular than his opponents in the political arena.
The poll, who chose different samples from all cultural and political circles and popular Prime Minister Maliki Regales high popularity through an opinion poll conducted by the Iraqi gate in the Iraqi capital Baghdad.
And claimed al-Maliki in the survey rate of 85%, which is the largest proportion in front of the other characters.
A number of citizens that al-Maliki was able to prove during Alantkhabatin phases ability to overcome crises despite adversity experienced by the country, considering the existing political war is targeting the owners and attempts to undermine the political process that began moving in the past by restoring the ruins.
The poll also said that a coalition of state law, according to the expectations of the Iraqi street, he would get more than accounted for in the last election and will exceed percent seat where poll monitoring different opinions most went towards Maliki's success in its mission to administer the state, despite indiscriminate war against him.
Shahristani from Diyala: beware of overtaking on the country's wealth and smuggling and the government plans to impose security in all parts of the country
Date: 24/11/2012 14:09:10 Saturday
Diyala (news) .. Deputy Prime Minister for Energy Affairs Hussain al-Shahristani, the government warns of overtaking on the wealth of the country and smuggled, calling for a policy of stand in it.
Shahristani said during a press conference held in the province of Diyala on the sidelines of his visit to the clan of Bani Tamim, and attended the Agency (news) today Saturday: The Iraqi government is determined to impose security in all parts of the country, because no society can not continue without the law. added: Warn of overtaking on the wealth of the country and smuggled, and call for a policy of Halima stand in terrorism and those who want to exceed the country's wealth and smuggling, and resorting to the Constitution in the event of disputes. " and explained: that the government will be the first in any armed clash, and the duty constitutionally and legally maintain the security of the citizen and addressing any override on Iraqi territory and the Iraqis. / end / 16. d. Q /
Friday November 23, 2012
Schuller: Operations Command refused to form the Tigris is unacceptable and unconstitutional
Follow-up - and babysit - MP from the state law, Adnan lipoidica Operations Command refused to form the Tigris is unacceptable and illegal or unconstitutional.
"The operations of the Tigris already present on the ground as it is a difference exists within the region and there is a military vision to unify those teams and unifying leadership in terms of implementation and maintenance of the land and are usually between breakers difference regions of loose exploited by terror."
Schuller said he "because it became decision that there will be joint operations command and a common area will not be loose areas in the resolution or in the implementation of and follow-up not to receive the information."
He stressed that "refused Operations Command Tigris contrary to the Constitution is not entitled to the Peshmerga, which does not in the Constitution refers to them, but no army and police and guards of the region and its responsibility is limited to within the province, which was determined by obtaining change in Iraq in 2003."
He Schuller that "expansionist ambitions and open more space for the region is unacceptable and has no legal basis."
He said the "declaration of Peshmerga forces preparedness is political speech and no one has to face the Iraqi state that a violation of Iraqi law and international and this negative implications and very dangerous not only in Iraq but in the region and this does not mean that improvises Massoud Barzani or other and enter Iraq and the region in crisis too big ".
And Schuller said that "operations Tigris not snowball and created a political crisis, but the crisis that Barzani looking for a crisis and wants to issue exacerbated things constantly," stressing that "there is a constitution must be respected by everyone
Saturday November 24, 2012
Walid al-Hilli: the crisis between Baghdad and Erbil in the way to the solution
BAGHDAD - babysit - said the leadership of the coalition of state law and Walid al-Hilli said that "the crisis between the central government and the Iraqi Kurdistan on its way to a solution."
The ornaments in a press statement there is serious work to return to the Convention of 2009, which ensures that / unresolved areas / is the subject of discussion as the joint security management between the center and the Iraqi Kurdistan and it's agreed. "
He added: "Things are going in this direction and some of what was transmitted from the news here and there in the media can not sour the situation," noting that "there is no war drums knocks, as they say."
He stressed ornaments "that the political process in Iraq's enemies at home and abroad are trying to create problems."
He assured citizens "that the situation is controlled and there is no intention for war as rumored at all" ... p / i
Saturday November 24, 2012
Ali Keywords: al-Jaafari's visit to Iraqi Kurdistan became close
BAGHDAD - babysit - A member of a coalition of state law, MP Ali Keywords, close to the President's visit the National Alliance Ibrahim al-Jaafari to Iraqi Kurdistan, noting that the formation of the Tigris has become an urgent necessity due to the situation in Syria, which adversely affect the country.
The Keywords in a press statement that House Speaker Osama Nujaifi plays a positive role in bringing the views between the central government and the Kurdistan Regional Government of Iraq, as well as there are recent visit to the President of the National Alliance Ibrahim al-Jaafari to Arbil to meet Kurdish leaders to reach a solution on the differences.
He added: Tigris processes need security required for the security of the region because it is concerned to maintain security in areas under threat from al-Qaida as well as the deterioration of the situation in Syria reflect negatively on those areas.
He noted that these forces can not be released because their presence is necessary, indicating N. dialogue and understanding to solve all outstanding issues between the political parties ... p / i
Member of the Commission on oil: establish a national oil company is subject to the legislation of the oil and gas law
Date: 24/11/2012 10:31:39 Saturday
Baghdad (news) .. Confirmed a member of the Oil and Energy Committee MP / National Alliance / Fatima Hamidi, said the establishment of the national oil company is subject to the legislation of the oil and gas, because the law would put basic rules and legal frameworks for the success of the company.
said Hamidi (of the Agency news): The enactment of the oil and gas will a lot of things that pertain to the oil sector, including the establishment of the national oil company, confirming the possibility of Company national in the absence of an oil law. said: There are some of the deputies support the passage of a law establishing the National Oil Company before the legislation is the law of oil and gas, and this can not be because he Satdharb with several laws and thus will be the company for granted, she said. stressed: the need to speed up enactment of a law of oil and gas to resolve outstanding issues do oil, considering oil and gas law the basis of laws other oil because it sets rules and legal frameworks with respect to the oil sector. / End / 8. n. p /