[BWM] There are those that say it will happen tomorrow... but it's 9/11 and I just can't see it going down that day... all timing and other such things aside... I know I could try to justify it in my mind but honestly, I just can't see that scenario working out
[BWM] now on to the finance conference in London next week... the more I try to rationalize it the more it seems unimportant to me... they did this last year and shabibi is a keynote speaker at a financial summit and as much as we'd like to make it about iraq's currency and it has to happen before because they don't want to look stupid... let's face it, this will be another dog and pony show to get ppl to "invest" in Iraq... there will be like most conferences "promises" of a bright future and all the oil you can absorb in your shoes...
[BWM] I know this sounds a bit negative but I guess where I'm getting with this is here... I have always had "ranges, windows, concepts and scenarios" in my mind as to when I thought this could/might go down... as of this exact moment in time... I don't have one of those to look toward... I'm still hearing "anytime" and I can see it after Tuesday and I know so much has been done for this to show but I feel many are looking at incorrect indicators as to why and when this must go down...
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[katfur2] BWM This is about Iraq and their Govt. not about abunch of currency salesmen here. Those people are going through the samething our forefathers went through putting this country together.Takes time we are not a second thought to them, that's a fact.
[BWM] katfur2 they have no idea how to put their government together... precisely why they can't do anything until someone tells them what to do... they are treading water waiting to be told when to come ashore and "announce" all their wonderful events IMO
[[Skyman] BWM Wu or LeGuarde? who has the upper hand?
[BWM] Skyman depends on which fork of the road you are on...
[Skyman] BWM I'll take the middle tineBWM] katfur2 I disagree completely... this hasn't been about Iraq since April of last year at least....
[katfur2] BWM We can agree to disagree. I've heard nearly every excuse and reason Why and Why Not. I'll agree on they need help but ultimately it will be their call.
[AndieZ] katfur2 - how do you know they don't have the appointees in place now... and they are just waiting to announce?
[AndieZ] katfur2 - they could have been doing that for months.... that's the thing
[Skyman] HCL - Done, Erbil - Done, SEated Government -Done , US military out - Done. Are we missing anything here from Iraq's point of view?
[BWM] katfur2 understanding that the IMF could revalue their currency without their consent... (see India a few years ago) and you realize that they could make the argument that it is "necessary and without delay" to change the value of their currency... they told them how much they could RV at so what control does Iraq really have.. they have a "working" government... the implementation of the ministers is NOT a necessity.. it was a desire by Shabibi who WORKS for the central bank.. NOT the parliament
[BWM] our military left (yeah right) so we could be "politely" invited back... it was semantics for political show...
[BWM] RapidRoyP is there a requirement of a "meeting" or "conference" to make anything "law"... is that in their constitution anywhere
[BWM] RapidRoyP it is required to be read aloud in parliament three times and published in the gazette... altho there are stipulations within those that can bypass the gazette... again we are talking NECESSARY vs. Desire
[BWM] RapidRoyP God forbid if Maliki understood executive orders...
[katfur2] BWM I think we have been bombarded with so much Stuff for so long it's hard for people to come to conclusions about any thing. You draw on past history and all we have turns out to be baloney or just plain bull. I still think they have to set their govt. before we get what we want. JMHO.
[HeIsFaithful] BWM Well if it si supposed to be highly crazy and confusing before this thing goes down, I would say we are right on track....it's really foggy in dinarland these days. Just when everyone is sure they are right is about the time we can be sure that absolutely NO ONE is!
[BWM] HeIsFaithful I keep trying to justify things comparing to other RV's while at the same time knowing that this is completely different than any other event...
[strongbow] BWM I find it impossible to make logic from so much illogical news and stories. I have decided to "go with the flow" and just let events unfold.
[BWM] strongbow logic has become a narrow line to walk..
[HeIsFaithful] BWM yes...no comparison...different time, different circumstances, different priorities...nothing to gauge anything by...really
[BWM] HeIsFaithful it all started out with a blueprint... and then as administrations change and ethical views degrade... well things fall apart
[76wayne] The London conference?
[BWM] 76wayne same thing as last year... has no bearing IMO
[SGD] BWM is there a chance that this will not ever happen? Just have to ask....
[BWM] SGD well all those that have said the "longer it goes the higher the rate" I completely disagree with... it WILL happen...
[SGD] BWM Thank you- just like lots of dinarians, I'm very frustrated and dont understand all of it. I have always appreciated what you bring to the table
[BWM] SGD I understand the frustration...