[BWM] SWFloridaGuy and why are the banks preparing for such an event...
[BWM] eleanor who regulates the dealers...
[SWFloridaGuy] BWM Says who? Prosperity package memos or the NDA that the "gurus" signed with Beverly Skinner. This is not at the banking level yet. OBVIOUSLY!!
[eleanor] BWM From what I understand the UST
[RV today] SWFloridaGuy i couldn't agree more..... i think the bank package deal was nothing more that a censis
[eleanor] BWM but I'm not certain of how much regulatory guidelines they are under
[BWM] SWFloridaGuy banks actually refer to packages as things that they can offer the client for the opening of an account... nothing to do with rates..
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[BWM] eleanor so who could/would tell them to stop selling
[SWFloridaGuy] BWM Would you like me to email you the banks stance on the IQD and the letter they sent out about taking legal actions against the ones speaking upon their behalf as "negotiators."
[SWFloridaGuy] BWM The currency is not tradeable. Period. Nothing to talk about until it is.
[hummingbirdrose] SWFloridaGuy Really? My partner's Dad has bank packages with all of his banks. If you deposit more than $250,000, they give you perks, like no fees, a concierge service, etc. My parter had the same deal when he made a deposit.
[eleanor] BWM It was always stated that they wouldn't stop selling in the case of an RV they would just reflect the new rate. It is the opinion of those that are indicating a currency exchange that the rate will be higher than the CBI RV rate that eventually will come out. But the high rate will be temporary
[BWM] SWFloridaGuy that ridiculous... why could they sell an "item" that is not tradeable... its the whole "scam" vs not theory
[SWFloridaGuy] BWM Internationally traded. Just like it's not traded on forex markets. It's not a convertible currency.
[heartfelt] hummingbirdrose You are correct about your statement. The packages have nothing to do with the RV of the currency and EVERYTHING to do with depositing your money in THEIR bank. Intising in other words.
[BWM] you have to deal with one of two trains of thought IMO... 1. Iraq in control same rate throughout the entire world with not fluctuations in rate during a time dictated ONLY by Iraq and iraq only... 2. a globally (IMF etc.) controlled EVENT... which will take into consideration war repartations and saving economies as governments have crumbled throughout their economic policies...
[SWFloridaGuy] BWM You know exactly what I mean. There is no RV, banks policies toward the IQD won't even be in place until the currency becomes tradeable. They are not preparing for the RV. How many years are people going to claim it's done and in the banks before they realize maybe the CBI, Finance Commitee and CoM haven't made their move yet.
[BWM] SWFloridaGuy can you "convert" the currency to USD right now? well can you...
[SWFloridaGuy] BWM Convertible... as in WTO stipulation. Iraq is not going to use the USD as their primary currency are they?
[BWM] SWFloridaGuy I won't argue about what the banks know... I have heard/seen the information distributed... no chance you convince me otherwise...
[SWFloridaGuy] BWM So you actually think banks are aware and preparing for the RV?
[BWM] SWFloridaGuy they are preparing for a "change in the value of currencies"
[Shiek] UST talks the banks say how high! Great discussion
[BWM] SWFloridaGuy let me ask you this...do you subscribe to the whole FED going away scenario in the near future
[rustyc] My purchase of dinar is as a collector or collectible item like many printed coins that have a value but are not for monitary purposed yet, that it my understanding.
[hummingbirdrose] BWM Heard the change in value myself from a close personal friend who is a VP at WF Private Bank.
[BWM] or the idea that the treasury has already printed new currency for the US?
[SWFloridaGuy] BWM Yeah I know, people have been saying that since December 2010. This is in Iraq's hands. CBI controls the rate and whether or not you believe that someone else is pulling the strings there is only one way to gauge how close we are and that's by following the preparatory steps taken by the GOI, CBI etc. not some guru with PP memos speaking of $42 rates, flying to Europe to cashout or bank packages.
[SWFloridaGuy] BWM Absolutely I don't think the Fed is going anywhere. Where's your proof for that?
[SWFloridaGuy] BWM and how does that tie into the RV happening now? I'm so tired of the conspiracy bs. Sorry
[BWM] SWFloridaGuy that just wrong IMO... Iraq has no control or they could/would have pulled the trigger a long time ago... they are "acting" out a play to kill time until such time they are TOLD to go ahead and they will announce the international RV as a courtesy...
[SWFloridaGuy] BWM The CBI already made adjustments.
[RV today] the Fed maybe gone but not the people in charge of the Fed
[hummingbirdrose] SWFloridaGuy Don't know where you are getting a conspiracy viewpoint from. Known BWM for a good while, and he has never talked conspiracies.
[SWFloridaGuy] BWM Where's your evidence of that?
[BWM] SWFloridaGuy I don't subscribe to all the either at least until an education process could occur to inform citizens on the circumstances
[New Beginning] SWFloridaGuy Sorry but If you really think that the US gave over 5,000 lives and 1 trillion in costs and handed the keys over to them over there and said you are in charge I have some land in the Atlantic for you.
[pat888] BWM here's article over yr ago on just that...The buck stops here? Virginia eyes switching off dollar Bill prepares for 'inevitable destruction of the Federal Reserve System's currency' Published: 02/01/2011 WASHINGTON – Virginia state Delegate Robert G. Marshall has introduced legislation to study whether the Commonwealth should make the preparations now to switch suddenly to an alternative currency in the event of an implosion of the Federal Reserve System and the destruction of the dollar. House Joint Resolution 557 is another piece of a growing movement among state legislators who are concerned about the dollar’s demise. Ten states have considered similar bills, recommending a return to some form of a commodity-based currency, using either silver or gold.
[SWFloridaGuy] New Beginning I never said the US doesn't have influence.
[New Beginning] SWFloridaGuy We totally control it.
[BWM] SWFloridaGuy if the CBI has such control over the currency how can they have different rates even region to region there with their prices...
[SWFloridaGuy] New Beginning There still are steps that can't be bypassed. Laws that must be passed, a GOI that must show stability. Only way to ensure the success of the economic reforms
[New Beginning] SWFloridaGuy Have you seen the embassy over there that our State dept runs? The State Dept controls all the land leases in Iraq
[New Beginning] SWFloridaGuy Yea like all the laws that our Gov. obeys? Come on.
[Imperium] BWM if there's anything that you and I agree upon, it's that the drama in Iraq is all political theatre being orchestrated by high ups.
[New Beginning] SWFloridaGuy This is the real world I am talking about
[SWFloridaGuy] New Beginning What's your point? What evidence do you have that ties into the IQD exchange rate?
[BWM] pat888 I'm not going to say it's not possible... I'm even hopeful to such an even removing the power from the corrupt institution... but to think it would happen suddenly is a bit of a stretch for me considering how things seem to occur from government
[New Beginning] SWFloridaGuy If you want facts go read some of Vics stuff at OOM He explains it much better then me. There are people that control this world and it isnt the leaders in Iraq
[rustyc] SWFloridaGuy I saw somewhere that the FED contract was up this year! and everyone knows that if it on the web its true! :?
[New Beginning] rustyc It runs out end of the year
[jacque47] mig is open to discussion
[RV today] New Beginning are those the same that run the fed?
[pat888] BWM I agree...they do everything in phases...it's been a plan for many many years...just the unveiling of it has begun
[BWM] I thoroughly enjoy and encourage diverging thoughts of things... it at least makes ppl think for themselves and decide how THEY need to proceed
[New Beginning] SWFloridaGuy RV today The world is controlled by familys period. I had a business over in Italy and to do business in areas you had to visit with the family that was in control in that area. That is how the whole world works. Sad but true
[SWFloridaGuy] mcmc408 I can't debate someone who requires no evidence for his beliefs.
[hummingbirdrose] SWFloridaGuy Why is it that you research guys all start making personal remarks, when someone questions your authority? MIG has always been a place where we could talk anyway we want to. If you want to pontificate without being questioned, maybe you should go to your home site.
[RV today] New Beginning well i agree with that,,, but i don't think those people are going to let go of the FED
[New Beginning] SWFloridaGuy Anyone that believes that news coming out of Iraq is true is mistaken. look at our media all owned by two companies
[CM2] SWFloridaGuy very good discussion, thank you for your contributions also
[BWM] I don't have any problem having a civil debate over the RV... again, if the idea of being on these sites is to better prepare yourself for this happening then why just sit and lurk when there's a point that you feel strongly about or question
[New Beginning] RV today They will as the good guys are starting to win. Look at Bob Diamond one of Rothschild right hand guys was arrested. That would never have happened 1 year ago.
[SWFloridaGuy] hummingbirdrose The hype gets old, I'm sorry if I come accross abrasive. What got me started was bank package codes because I know for a fact they are not real. The NDA was signed with a scam group. I'll let it go now, sorry.
[RV today] New Beginning the good guy aren't going to win,,,
[BWM] my problem is those that want to research and rely exclusively on articles and media are sadly leaving out the opporunity that those mediums are skewed to the opinions of those that most likely are not even in the country or involved...
[Imperium] SWFloridaGuy but it seems your evidence has equal and opposite evidence that the codes do exist.
[RV today] New Beginning i have proof
[SWFloridaGuy] New Beginning Yes, and it's very frustrating keeping that information to yourself when you see them lead so many astray.
[hummingbirdrose] SWFloridaGuy I think we can converse and have different knowledge bases. Mine is different from yours on the Codes, but that doesn't mean I have to discredit you or your sites. That sort of behavior doesn't do your case any good whatsoever at all.
[BWM] SWFloridaGuy I do agree the NDA stuff (especially RENO) is a crock... and have been outspoken to that effect...
[CM2] SWFloridaGuy an its ok to disagree, i for one believe in the codes, but enjoy this discussion anyway
[New Beginning] SWFloridaGuy RV today You dont need no intel here you go. Its real simple watch for the Euro to go down. When that happens the RV will be slipped in period you need nothing else
[SWFloridaGuy] BWM Oh my gosh yes it's a crock. I saw that you posted about that and greatly appreciated it. Thank you for speaking out.
[hummingbirdrose] BWM That's true. You have been talking to everyone about the dangers of the Reno deal.
[New Beginning] SWFloridaGuy Yes and the one that gets the most respect is the worst at fleecing the sheep in these rooms
[SWFloridaGuy] CM2 It's certainly ok for us to disagree. Especially on such a speculative topic where NONE of us have the answers.
CM2] BWM an you guys can call it a crock, but i dont believe that the senetors or congressmen will be cashing in as i am, i believe there has to be a secure place for them an if it is reno, so be it
[New Beginning] RV today What proof? Believe me the good guys are very close to taking over these people that are over the FED
[rustyc] SWFloridaGuy, BWM , recently heard a new theory/rumor rv/ce waiting on all to get back from olympics end of ramadan... any thoughts?
[sammyb] just sitting here lurking, I think the issue is " you can disagree, state your opinion, but do so respectfully, and for goodness sake, lets be humble.... no room for arrogance
[RV today] SWFloridaGuy thank you and BGG for bring info that can be varified with docs
[BWM] CM2 why would they leave the safely of washington and a UST location AS WELL AS a congressional bank... seriously, why would they travel all the way across the country to "cash in"
[SWFloridaGuy] BWM Well, I admit I probably don't have the best idea of what's said there anymore since I was banned for daring to speak out against the in country RV rumor.
[BOBGETZ6] CM2 I would think it would be the Capital bank where most of the congressmen do business, legal or otherwise.
[SWFloridaGuy] I'm sorry, the 10th in-country RV rumor. Just to clarify. :)
[RV today] New Beginning it does appear that way on the surface, but is not the case
[BWM] SWFloridaGuy in country RV is a joke IMO also...
[SWFloridaGuy] BWM Yes, however many were banned for trying to explain that.
[CM2] BWM i certainly am ont the one with answers, only speculation, as i said if it it reno, so be it, i have no idea where, but i dont think they will be in my line waiting to exchange lol
[BWM] SWFloridaGuy well again... the atmosphere has changed and I would apologize for prior "issues"
[SWFloridaGuy] I will say this though, kudos to MIG for even allowing this convo. I don't know of many chat rooms that wouldn't have shut it down long ago.
[New Beginning] SWFloridaGuy I was silenced for posting an Obama law that was taking away our rights to freedom of speech. How ironic.
[SWFloridaGuy] BWM No problem and good for you guys.
to have all these nemes in here for this discussion, i think that is the best news of the day hahaha
[BOBGETZ6] SWFloridaGuy The plan from the start.
[BWM] CM2 the whole theory with reno is that it is the wes
[BWM] CM2 the whole theory with reno is that it is the western depository for WF... I mean they have other depositories
[CM2] BWM im sure sir
[rustyc] any response.. SWFloridaGuy, BWM , recently heard a new theory/rumor rv/ce waiting on all to get back from olympics end of ramadan... any thoughts?
[BWM] SWFloridaGuy this and ours is the only other place I would dare come and even attempt such a conversation
[BWM] rustyc ramadan may have changed somewhat... we shall see what the next week brings in that regard
[rustyc] BWM thank you!
[anteup] I'm confused...what is the scam connected to the bank codes?
[BWM] anteup there were at least a couple of ppl attempting to get ppl to sign up with them with the idea that they would take that information to the bank and try to receive kickbacks or money for bringing in the dinar.. most of that has been exposed altho there are a number of "games" being run in reno from my discussions with ppl there
[SWFloridaGuy] anteup Beverly Skinner group is a scam group. Under the guise of a "Wells Fargo negotitator," they convinced gurus to collect private information from people (amount of dinar, email, full name etc). Gurus thought they would be making a percentage but they just got scammed. I may get attacked for saying this but it's the truth. I have a copy of the NDA they signed.
[BOBGETZ6] da58 The good point is that people can say things as long as they are not offensive. I do not listen to conference calls nor visit other sites because of the hype and spin.
[BWM] if someone asked you for anything other than an email address in any event... DON'T DO IT... do not give anyone your dinar... do not give them any personal information...
[SWFloridaGuy] BWM Good advice
[RV today] SWFloridaGuy no attack from me... what are your thoughts of what the bank plans to do with the info?
[xyz] BOBGETZ6 BWM is SWFloridaGuy refering to studley/general group?
[BWM] deal direct with a BANK.... No one else
[BWM] Dumplingpieface generals is not associated with skinner... I can verify that I have heard the leaders of the reno group and all the "cashing ins" that are supposedly occurring but of course no one has any money... I know several ppl that have given over their dinar for nothing more than a hand written receipt... they have been taken
[SWFloridaGuy] No reason to talk about post-rv. We still have yet to see a change.
[BWM] xyz again... take into consideration the information that you are REQUIRED to give to get into a group... anything more than an email address should be a warning
[BOBGETZ6] xyz I don't think he means the two are the same. The Studley/ KCMana, WF group, is solid and above board, IMO.
[SWFloridaGuy] BWM Anyway, like you I remain sanguine in regards to this investment and have a very optimistic outlook for 2012. I debate this constantly with the Lopsters over at DV.