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OOTW: rare.us/story/america-is-... SERIOUSLY?
chattels: As he talks of strategy’s success, Obama finds Kurds key player By Namo Abdulla
gold642: ‹@OOTW› yes it is serious, i am one of them that enrolled online to be trained
chattels: ERBIL, Kurdistan Region — Kurdish forces have repelled fresh Islamic State attacks on the city of Sinjar and killed more than 25 of the group’s militants, a military source told Rudaw.
chattels: private enterprise at work in Iraq : BABIL, Iraq — In blacksmith shops and car garages, Iraq’s deliverymen and unemployed youths are building a local transport vehicle called a satouta (shuttle). It is the latest invention created by Iraqis to make a living and fight poverty. Read more: www.al-monitor.com/pulse/... http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2015/07/iraq-vehicles-motorcycle-cart-transport-tax-driver-satouta.html#ixzz3fFmJAWZm
lonegunman: excuse my candor ! same excrement different day !
chattels: ‹@lonegunman› we don't make up the news like some, we just report it, accurately i think
lonegunman: what a guagmire
chattels: ‹@lonegunman› yes it is
lonegunman: ‹@chattels› I'm a wet blanket too ! lol which = realist .....
chattels: ‹@lonegunman› on the face of it all it is not pretty, but i still believe
] chattels: hopeful and optimistic against all better judgment and prior experience :)
lonegunman: ‹@chattels› how true laughed my but off on that comment
lonegunman: we all need a good laugh, watching these gentleman ! in Iraq
lonegunman: ‹@chattels› perhaps not ! for our generation . but we all know ! for a fact their currency IS undervalued ... imposed !
chattels: ‹@lonegunman› imposed initially, but arguably now depressed by real world considerations
chattels: situational, but real
lonegunman: ‹@chattels› it does seem that way !
lonegunman: ‹@chattels› their time to me was yrs ago ! but ! that is me ....
chattels: i am in it now and intent upon riding it out for better / worser
lonegunman: ‹@chattels› meez too !!!!!!!!!!!!
lonegunman: oy vey !
lonegunman: oh ya yippie - ky -yah lol lol
TxBrand: Obama: Fight ISIS With ‘Better Ideas,' Not Guns :blink: :w00t: www.mrctv.org/blog/obama-... http://www.mrctv.org/blog/obama-says-key-fighting-isis-better-ideas#.xow4qo:NF76
Sam: ‹@TxBrand› men's soccer is playing in the gold cup tonight fox1 at 830
TxBrand: ‹@Sam› cool
TxBrand: its on now
TxBrand: ‹@Sam› they are going to kill each other lol
gold642: love it when another room posts incredible news that was out over 24 hours ago
whitelions: maybe it was new to them
whitelions: what was the news ?
gold642: The bonds will be issued in US dollars in stages based on investor demand, and investors will choose between receipt of an asset at maturity in dollars or dinars, but at a better price than the market price.
gold642: Articles about it were even out over 3 weeks ago
whitelions: well now they know lol
chattels: listening to the senate hearing on strategy with Carter and Dempsey
sczin11: ‹@chattels› HAVE U SEEN THE CARTER ARTICLE
chattels: ‹@sczin11› not that i know of
sczin11: ‹@chattels› wealthwatch.world/showthr...
sczin11: ‹@chattels› AFTER U READ, I HAVE A QUESTION
chattels: ty, done reading
sczin11: DO YOU FEEL STATEMENTS LIKE "Carter and his belief that "the former prime minister Nuri al-Maliki was the cause of what happened in Mosul." Have REAL BASIS, OR JUST OPINION?
chattels: i am inclined to say that such statements have a a basis in fact
sczin11: WAT I AM GETTING AT, IFFICIAL REPORT ON FALL NOT OUT YET..IS THERE " INSUDE" INFO, YOU THINK
chattels: why do you ask ?
chattels: i would think that the U.S. has it's own intel on the " fall "
chattels: i note from the testimony that Carter generally is blaming any / all failures in Iraq upon Maliki
chattels: and he is very cautious about Abadi
sczin11: ‹@chattels› THATS WAT I HAVE FELT, AND I BELIEVE ATTACHED TO REASONS OF SOME OF THE RELEASES THIS PAST WEEK..
.I THINK EVERYONE WHO IS ANYONE, WAS /IS EXPECTING THAT INFO, AND THUS MANY OTHER ISSUES COMING TO LITE, THE JUDICIARY RULINGS FOR ONE, THE TRIAL THAT STARTED TODAY, THE ACCUSATIONS AND FINGER POINTING , ETC..
chattels: he is quick to emphasize what Abadi says as though he is waiting to see what he does or perhaps more significantly CAN DO given his opposition in BAaghdad
sczin11: ‹@chattels› CAUTIOUS? SEEMS LIKE HE IS PLAYING HIM UP
sczin11: ‹@chattels› OH YES, AGREED
sczin11: LIKE DO WHAT YOU SAY, SEEMS TO BE STATING USA IS WAITING FOR UNIFICATION
chattels: CArter is clear that Abadi's announced intentions are such and such
chattels: Iraq is not going to make it IMO
chattels: a unified Iraq is untennable
sczin11: ‹@chattels› SO WHERE DO YOU SEE THIS GOING....
chattels: the only question for me is whether the currency survives long enough to have value for us
sczin11: YOU SEE SHIFT AWAY FROM DEMOCRACY
chattels: i see a federation of three states
chattels: i think that democracy can / will survive
sczin11: IMHO, PROBLEM WITH THAT IS THE SHARING OF RESOURCES? IT IS NOT EVENLY DISTRIBUTED
chattels: there may be a move to a Presidential form of government by one or all three
sczin11: HOW CAN DEMOCRACY EXIST, WITHOUT UNIFICATION, AGREEMENTS, BETWEEN THE THREE STATES, OR THE CURRENT COUNTRY
chattels: ‹@sczin11› yes, the Sunni portion ( Anbar ) is poor in resources comparatively
chattels: ‹@sczin11› research " confederation "
sczin11: ‹@chattels› WILL CAUSE THE CIVIL WAR YOU TALKED ABOUT TEN MONTHS AGO
sczin11: ‹@chattels› ok
chattels: there is already a civil war
sczin11: A confederation (also known as confederacy or league) is a union of political units for common action in relation to other units.
chattels: partition may avoid a sectarian conflict
sczin11: WHY COULD THERE BE A UNION WITH THREE STATES, BUT NOT NOW AS ONE COUNTRY
chattels: i posted an article earlier in the independence thread
sczin11: SAME ISSUES WILL CONTINUE TO BE PLAYED WITH
sczin11: OK, WILL GO READ
chattels: ‹@sczin11› confederation is a possibility - not certainty
chattels: and it's form is highly variable
sczin11: ‹@chattels› VERY INTENSE COMPARISON BEING MADE..I UNDERSTAND THE KURDS PART AND HAVE ALWAYS FOLLOWED YOUR OPINIONS ON THEM,
I JUST DONT SEE IT PLAYING OUT, NOW...WITH EVERY THREAT FROM THEM WE SEE, SHORTLY AFTER THEY ARE SUCKING IT UP TO FINISH THIS OR FINISH THAT, WITH IRAQ...SEEMS TO ALWAYS LEAD TO EMPTY THREATS...
chattels: the nature of non-violent , bloodless and passive change is very much incremental
Doug_W: Baby steps too
chattels: more mad more the notion of Kurdish independence is being favorably received and that independent spirit will carry the day eventually
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chattels: ‹@Doug_W› educate me please :)
Doug_W: I had a person I knew travel there and he said the ferry is Never on time the roads are narrow and not well maintained the signage of poor is nonexistent etc