[cisco411] ok guys here is something I wanted to address really quick. the trillion dollar coin
cisco411] the president has the legal right to mint a PLATINUM coin in ANY amount with out congress. it would have to be a coin so that the market would not be saturated with $100 bill thus causing inflation
burk50] Cisco411 so how does this affect the RV ?
masterT] so cisco411...Do you think that will be the cover story for debt relief ???????
[OILGENRL7] BigB what about all the cities that filed bankruptcy also
[BigB] jeanne cisco411 Mybe they minted some of those new platinum coins of smaller denoms - about 26 of them.
[chillimac] cisco411 he doesnt have the power to make a bill, only a coin, thats what i heard
[cisco411] chillimac that is correct
[chillimac] cisco411 so is he going to mint one
[BigB] cisco411 OILGENRL7 The sounds you are hearing is the heads starting to come out of the sand
[cisco411] it has been put out so much I think this may be the way they explain it.
[OILGENRL7] cisco411 he made enuf of the other ones lol - fiat money
[burk50] Is this good for RV?
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[Jester] there was an article in the Washington post explain about the trillion dollar coin... http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2013/01/09/trillion-dollar-coin-the-new-nuclear-option/
[Jester] says it is not that likely to happen...
[Jester] It’s also the political equivalent of the nuclear option — something that may be technically practical, but would lead to all kinds of unpredictable political fallout. So much so that it’s very likely to remain in the realm of liberal fantasy.
[keiji] cisco411 hi, you still feeling good that this is upon us?
[cisco411] we are close to the finish line though i got some news from someone that has said our predictions may be too early.
[keiji] cisco411 that's not good, how early?
[cisco411] I for one am now on the fence again but I know this... we are close and we will see it before month's end
[Jester] geoworld well i dont think she is the one that won the war.... if ya catch my drift...
[cisco411] I am hoping and praying that flashing and shining are correct
[Jester] cisco411 agreed
[okrocks] cisco411 based on??? budget vote? or....
[cisco411] okrocks behind the curtain things
[cisco411] what we see as the "reason" are just smoke and mirrors.
[Nuffsaid] cisco411 was there another set back?
[cisco411] Nuffsaid it seems there is but I don't know what it is exactlly and the reason I think it is I don't know if I can say and also if I did i would have to explain more
[okrocks] cisco411 well just give a good guess
[Jester] there is not a delay unless something was missed... the only thing that was missed to date is the predictions of the gurus...
[cisco411] Jester correct
[cisco411] I do know this..... the RV Will not happen before the release of chapter 7
. you can't RV without lifting sanctions
[BLESSME] Cisco411 do you feel before feb
[cisco411] BLESSME yes yes a million times yes
[keiji] cisco411 I thought the RV had to be done in order to get out of chap 7.
[cisco411] like flashing always says .... look at the articles
[Jester] cisco411 at least publicly.. agreed...
[cisco411] look at what the media is putting out
[Blessingsabundant] cisco411 So you are of opinion that is all about Iraq and not that it is out of their hands.
[cisco411] Jester I think you know a little more than you let on mister
[Jester] cisco411 and what the media is not putting out...
[cisco411] Blessingsabundant NO- not in Iraq's hands
[cisco411] look I have ALWAYS said... all you see in the form of media will answer future questions
[okrocks] cisco411 they have made agreements and the UN has not made info known for a reason it seems... I think it will all show at the same time... but what is the timing?
[cisco411] people will ask about this Dinar thing and they will respond we were telling you all along
Jester] cisco411 for sure...
[Blessingsabundant] cisco411 OK. Some are saying it does not matter that they are not out of Chapter 7, so I guess we will see.
[cisco411] Blessingsabundant it matters everything that they are not out of chapt 7
[cisco411] okrocks that is the million dollar question
[keiji] cisco411 could it be the 2013 budget approval?
[Jester] cisco411 and they are not talking about the obvious things that should have been announced one way or the other by now...
[cisco411] look un meets 2 times a year regarding chpt 7 and they ALWAYS have turned in their report and finding. we are 11 days into the new year and UN has not turned in their report.....read between the lines ....
[keiji] cisco411 could be that they are waiting for the PTB to tell them OK
[cisco411] keiji yes but it is a little more complicated
[cisco411] the truth is no one knows tomorrow, March. whatever
[Jester] cisco411 they would have no reason not to announce continuation of the chapter 7...
[thudz04] cisco411 do you know if there is a timeline in which they MUST provide a public report regarding the UN meeting held in December?
wheezer2] cisco411 is it possible that the chapter 7 release has happened but not publicized?
[cisco411] Jester no you are so correct
[cisco411] wheezer2 Not out of chapter 7
[cisco411] not today at least or as of yesterday at 5:30 cst. If they are then they are hiding it very well. but I was told SOON out of chpt 7. so however you want to look at it they are done but not announced or done at announcement. same thing
[BLESSME] Cisco411 not today or weekend? Your opinion please. I will take as rumor
[cisco411] BLESSME I have some saying in 10 minutes cst and others saying in 2 weeks, i don't know what to think anymore
[tornado] cisco411 -Are you confuse??
[cisco411] I just take in any info not date or rate related and post it
[cisco411] cisco411 Not confused becasue I see why both sides say what they do
[keiji] cisco411 Blaino said he knows for a fact that the IQD had a buy/sell rate for a little over 9 minutes the other day. He even gave the exact time. His theory is that it allowed certain people/entities to cash in. Says we're next. Could be a good indicator.
[cisco411] keiji that is true, well the first part. IDK about people cashing in though at best they would walk out with a SKR, and they would not be liquid. the second part is pure speculation looking for a reason...
[keiji] cisco411 I think he was talking more about entities. Eitherway, it's a good sign.
[tornado] Maybe they would cash out countries and royalties and then maybe do a lop??
[cisco411] keiji yes I do know that nations have cashed in though
[pianamama63] cisco411 Do u thk we will see this my the end of January?
[cisco411] pianamama63 yes
[Blessingsabundant] cisco411 Are the Dodd Frank accounts (NIB) gone?
[cisco411] Blessingsabundant extended to feb 23
[cisco411] i remember sept thru dec all articles were like complaining about how broke europe and japan and other nations were. lagarde stepping in and such and now extremely quiet out there. where are all these countries getting money from? the QE3 and all that
[Blessingsabundant] cisco411 What does alive and fluid mean?
[calibeach] cisco411 How can nations cash in but not us until chapter 7 is removed?
[cisco411] calibeach people like us are the problem. the non whales and such
[Jester] security at the bank...
[cisco411] i am not saying there is a conspiracy to take our dinar or nothing
[Tradewind] cisco411 you think a few thousand people are causing the banks issues
[cisco411] i am just saying that there will be an influx of new millionaires with no previous experience with money
[Coffeeone] cisco411 Why are we a problem? lol
[pmw1973] its not cash in its EXCHANGE
[cisco411] Tradewind a few thousand.... try a few million...it is said 3% of americans own dinar
[Coffeeone] cisco411 It is our money, we will do what we want with it.
[cisco411] Coffeeone yes but the cashing out portion
[nolaspice] Coffeeone if only it was that simple
[Jester] well... the problem is how to get it in your hands without a riot...
[Tradewind] cisco411 they should worry about the 97%
[cisco411] I can't disclose specifics about it
Maryrose] cisco411 they know whom owns dinar, they could contact them under an NDA and set an appt. quietly
[cisco411] heavy non disclosures is the way to go
[keiji] cisco411 they've had more than enough time to prepare for cash-in. The banks are supposed to have been ready long ago.
[cisco411] Maryrose yes but it takes a lot of man hours to do so
[Coffeeone] The banks handle folks all the time, wow, Americans are stupid, right? We are the problem? Yeah, right. Are you the problem?
[cisco411] keiji they are ready
[19rue] keiji I completely agree!
[Maryrose] cisco411 no more than man hours to take all of our calls and set up appts
[cisco411] Coffeeone it is much more to it than that
[keiji] cisco411 so why is cashout a problem.
Jester] cisco411 cash out with appointments and NDA but the money is not live until the rv is...
[cisco411] I see I am opening up a can of worms
[spiritfilled] You guys remember that someone reported that WF had sent a memo out that all bank employees were to work the next 4 Saturdays
[cisco411] this requires an explanation that is complicated
[cisco411] Jester yes but there's just a little bit more to it
[Jester] got to worry about people trying weird stuff to double dip....
[cisco411] but never mind let's go back to just saying ASN
[Jester] cisco411 yes.. i am not saying it too... lol...
cisco411] guys read debtarheelgirl's post she has stated that there will be a rate for all and then a rate for us. the rate for us and the development of it is the small hold up. and yes it's small
[Jester] cisco411 agreed... but a significant number when added up...
[Blessingsabundant] cisco411 What does it mean when someone says Situation is alive and fluid?
[cisco411] Blessingsabundant please provide context- what do you mean
pmw1973] Blessingsabundant ITS moving , breathing
[Blessingsabundant] cisco411 Concerning the Dinar right now
[cisco411] alive means it's active and fluid means moving forward without hinderance
[RichGirl] cisco411 what do you mean small for us?
[cisco411] it's a small issue
[pianamama63] cisco411 do u thg we cld c it this wkend?
[keiji] cisco411 should it be resoved quickly?
[cisco411] not major issue that would delay anything past 24 - 48 hours to resolve.... resolve not RV
[cisco411] pianamama63 yes
[cisco411] I am looking for it now waiting on the phone to ring, but i have been doing that all week
[musiccitylady] cisco411 me Waiting too
[keiji] cisco411 it seems like a lot of people expect it this weekend.
[cisco411] listen to what is out there don't treat it as rumor treat it as someone's opinion to the facts they have been given. truth is subjective in dinarland, what is true right now... may not be true in an hour or a day. we get info an post it for those in here
[Jester] cisco411 and then some other peoples opinions up the line too...
[cisco411] Jester very true
keiji] cisco411 the good news is that all the indicators point to us being very very close
[cisco411] name 1 person who you respect here in dinarland that has been right about the date and rate?
[pianamama63] cisco411 I appreciate u taking your time to come b a part of intel4. If it wasn't for nice ppl like you, we wouldn't know all this wonderful information.
[BLESSME] Cisco411 . I thought you said it wouldn't happen today?
[cisco411] BLESSME I said it COULD happen today
[cisco411] guys you have been told time and time again there are people working on your behalf that you dont know
[justbelieve7] cisco411 Do you agree with the midnight to 4am time frame? Thanks
[cisco411] justbelieve7 yes i always said that wee hours are best. it allows the rv to sink in our spirits and minds and keeps us from making a run on the bank. even thought there will be a number to call for an appointment there will always be that guy....who camps out like black friday at wal mart
[justbelieve7] cisco411 I remember Frank26 years ago also said in the still of the night...thanks for coming in with us
[Jester] cisco411 that thinks he can shortcut the system...
[cisco411] please remember that if you show up and are asked to leave don't fight back you will be dealing with legal consequences. don't make ANY bank employee feel threatened or "in fear" of their life. you may not get to enjoy your blessing
[Jester] connect the dots...
[cisco411] you have waited this long. wait until you can cash in the right way. put yourself in the bank's shoes and try to see the problem this can cause on your day to day business
[cisco411] we are civilized and look what happened when they said twinkies were disappearing. imagine an event that can make you a millionaire or a thounsandaire. we all want this really bad, but don't go losing it.
[BLESSME] Cisco411 am I reading into it too much? Seems like it may go live but we need to wait to cash in with code?...
[cisco411] Blessme yes
Nolaspice] i am still sad about the twinkies....
[sailman] cisco411 Do you have any idea about the Dinarian friends here in CAnada and their CE procedure
[cisco411] sailman unforunately not =(
[marmeysue] sailman You know FootForward is Canada and he might be able to help you with your questions. he is with the Big Call
Mitzi] cisco411 you are appreciated by us all
[cisco411] ok guys it's about that time...and as always, I hope you rv before I return [puppylove] cisco411 bye and many thanks
[keiji] cisco411 ty and bring back the RV if it hasn't