Comments: Greek Betrayal & Pan-European Solidarity Part 3
Reader Comments On The Greek Betrayal & Pan-European Solidarity Part 3
Raoul Asare-Bediako MARCH 2, 2015 AT 8:20 PM Further to the “Greek Tragedy” thought, this may belong more in the esoteric section but hear me out.
If the powers that be, are creating the problem so that they can provide the solution that the World runs to in their panic (Hegelian Dialectic)….look at the pagan symbolism:
“Greek tragedy” is an extension of the ancient rites done in honour of Dionysus.(Wikipedia)
Apollo (Apollion = Satan in the Bible) represents harmony, progress, clarity and logic…whereas Dionysus represents disorder, intoxication, emotion and ecstasy.
i.e. Dionysus creates the Chaos. Apollo “saves the day”.
Remember that Lucifer was the brightest angel before the Fall…the world is yet to be deceived.
irrelevant111 MARCH 3, 2015 AT 1:12 AM JC, If this does not capture the heart n soul of man n our Earth, nothing will. Enjoy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HhXOz0EsP0
irrelevant111 MARCH 3, 2015 AT 5:47 AM We need it, but what if…
What If Money Was No Object? Alan Watts
hugovictor54 MARCH 3, 2015 AT 12:20 PM U.S. to deploy combat troops to Ukraine
Relooking Europe: The Role of Land Forces Published on Mar 2, 2015
Please join us for a discussion with COL Foster about the future of land forces in Europe and the role of the 173rd Airborne Brigade going forward.
The discussion will cover a range of issues and current events facing USAREUR, the 173rd Airborne Brigade's mission as part of OPERATION ATLANTIC RESOLVE, joint exercises with European allies, and the brigade's upcoming training mission in Ukraine.
A Discussion with: Colonel Michael L. Foster Brigade Commander, 173rd Airborne Brigade Vicenza, Italy
irrelevant111 MARCH 3, 2015 AT 2:00 PM Man still has not learned…
daneackerman MARCH 3, 2015 AT 4:27 PM Not necessarily….so far we will try diplomacy then perhaps provide arms to Ukraine.
“Russian aggression has only reinforced the unity between the United States, Germany and other European allies,” the president said. “There’s going to continue to be a strong, unified response between the United States and Europe; that’s not going to change.”
Norman Ball MARCH 3, 2015 AT 7:49 PM The elite have achieved a cognitive coup in America, Until WW3 is declared on TV, it hasn’t started. So we await Wolf Blitzer’s announcement with bated breath.
As for the Russians, they will tell you WW3 has already started. Maybe this amounts to little more than a quibble over what date Wikipedia will ultimately reflect as the war’s start date (they’ll probably go with Blitzer’s). But are thinking men and women still debating the probability of WW3?
That seems like a settled debate, even from my American chair.
hugovictor54 MARCH 3, 2015 AT 10:34 PM I’m with you Norman. So how does it play out? Kinetic engagement in Ukraine, Syria, and Iran? Limited to those theaters? Asymetrical warfare worldwide?, or just a big ka-blooey! Jack
Ian Le Cheminant MARCH 4, 2015 AT 1:43 AM “Storm in the valley.” — I Ching
I am no astrologer but sometimes I follow the large patterns. It can be a metric as useful as many others. The raw data is extremely precise. Interpretation is another matter.
“The Sun’s sudden liveliness is happening with the wave of energetics that crests tomorrow, Wednesday, March 4, 2015 at 1:29 pm ET/6:29 pm UT, with the conjunction of Venus and Uranus and Jupiter in trine and Pluto in square (Jupiter 120 degrees apart and Pluto 90 degrees apart from Venus and Uranus).
These angles produce massive intensity for the times, and many people are feeling it and responding/reacting to it.
For a week now, this energy has “loaded in” high drama, insomnia, feeling like you or things are coming undone, high anxiety, deep spirals of depression, sudden surprises and shocks, and things that are radically life-changing (especially within relationships).
Strong solar flares such as these super-charge already-present energetic dynamics. So all of these themes are being amplified by the power of “sun works” – the strongest fireworks of all.
When we do not know what is going on, we personalize the energy and think that it is coming from something inside of us. Something inside of us must be causing it. But the fact is the energy is coming from outside of us, triggering a response. Understanding the difference is key.
The knowledge of this truth frees us to see that we do not have to be victims of strong energetic influences. We can keep them outside of us, and instead respond from a place of wisdom to circumstances and events that occur.
We understand that the energy is trying to change the status quo of the world at large and our own status quo. We can work with this instead of it working us.
We practice a lot of skills, but today we will add the skill of being like an “old sea captain rocking on the porch of his cottage,” observing from a distance and far away from storms.
Though we know a “stellar upgrade” is underway to bring all things to a new state (a new level, a new playing field), we can choose our responses. We know that there will be effects from this energy (like insomnia and states of depression), but these are leading us to something else. We can follow the transformation – the unfolding…” — http://www.oraclereport.com
Norman Ball MARCH 4, 2015 AT 6:26 AM It’s hard to imagine Hugo how this can be anything less than a world war. The scale is so clearly global. The debt ponzi is gasping for fuel and air.
Only a world war can deliver the necessary scale of demand/supply destruction and subsequent rebuild. So they have to be thinking big. Resource-rich Russia must be brought to heel.
They also want to clear out the Arc of Instability– Iran-Syrian-Hezbollah and the recent Iranian overtures and arms sales to the Palestinians. So Netanyahu is over on an Internationalist mission to energize American support for the M.E. arc of the war.
Our 70 million Christian Zionists are itching for world cessation, so this will be red meat to the End Timers. Of course the Empire Builders are less interested in Judgment Day.
They want to live long and prosper, ideally with the greenfields of Eurasia tucked safely within the Western monetary regime.
The real Achille’s Heel with the war cycle in my opinion is that lethality, alas, is not cyclical but a progressively more life-negating ratchet i.e. ever-forward.
‘So the banker’s war-driven boom-bust cycle exposes humanity to commensurately more perilous cycles with each iteration. It’s hard to say where their thinking is on the desperation-calculation scale.
They may feel they can survive a thermonuclear war. We don’t know the extent of their preparations.
I’ve never felt comfortable with Joel Skousen’s belief that the American elite wants to encourage a first strike on the US then emerge from bunkers as retaliative heroes. That just seems a helluva way to consolidate power, soiling your own nest and about as loony as those who claim Fukushima was planned.
Some conspiracists just don’t know when to stop sand let a little randomness creep into the action. You can bet an unfettered Internet will be toast i the aftermath, so it’s been nice chatting with everyone in case this is one of our last times together.
The scary thing is that the elite have been largely uncontested for decades if not centuries. I worry about sclerosis and overreaction. So it’s hard to gauge the mindset and frankly the sanity level. What would global hegemony be worth to you
JC Collins MARCH 4, 2015 AT 11:52 AM The threat of war has to be real and palatable. But speaking in terms of absolutes by stating that war is now unavoidable is somewhat misaligned with the broader realities. Yes, many of the things you state are true.
But the current geopolitical tension is no less and no more than what the world has seen since the rise of the USD in 1944.
The United States is becoming more isolated as the multilateral framework is being constructed and mandated. The systemic process of reversing Bretton Woods is what we are experiencing. And yes, there could be some trouble spots, but not on the level of destruction as previous world wars.
Let’s not forget that all the major players in this drama have central banks which are beholden to the BIS. And let’s not forget that America is in the process of reducing it’s military to pre-WW2 levels. That would be at pre-reserve currency status.
Norman Ball MARCH 4, 2015 AT 1:46 PM Your intellectual powers and big-picture grasp are on this blog for all to see, JC. Believe me, I’m rooting for your more circumspect appraisal.
JC Collins MARCH 4, 2015 AT 2:29 PM I hope I’m right my friend, because the alternative is unthinkable.
hugovictor54 MARCH 4, 2015 AT 5:07 PM To some maybe not. Louna Fight Club Ukraine War
Published on Feb 11, 2015
Ukraine War footage set to the song Fight Club by Russian rock band Louna
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Steve Henningsen (@Stevephenni) MARCH 4, 2015 AT 3:07 PM In my opinion, there can be no WW3, as it would be to no ones advantage in a nuclear world. The ” International Capital” would only have ashes to rule over. (I enjoyed your book by the way.)
I tend to agree with JC on this one and think they will take it to the edge but not pull the trigger. If they do then nothing else matters much…
Norman Ball MARCH 4, 2015 AT 4:21 PM My only caveat Steve is to be wary of the ‘monolithic they’. There is no such thing as a herd of cats. Megalomaniacs do not sit nicely around a committee table. At moments such as these there are bound to be schisms and rogue factions.
There is a lot of horizontal mayhem that can occur beneath the transcendent class of International Capital among the east-west dialecticians. Some of these factions have access to fearsome weaponry.
A flagging American empire may not care to pass the baton up to a globalized order. A recalcitrant empire whose time has passed could nonetheless be resistant to IC’s desire to move on.
Invariably, someone is staring at demotion. Republican intransigence to IMF reforms is one such potential fault line. The massive ‘Belgium’ purchases of US debt has an undisclosed purpose. There’s a subtext there too –empire extortion?
The bankers need to get to Eurasia. If Pax Americana cannot do it, they will find a better vehicle. That’s what empire is –an optimized vehicle for debt expansion.
JC Collins MARCH 4, 2015 AT 4:32 PM The bankers already have Eurasia. It’s western industrial interests which are attempting to maintain influence in the region.
Norman Ball MARCH 4, 2015 AT 4:53 PM Absolutely JC. I agree. The bankers have everything.
There is no force on the planet, short of radical Islam perhaps, that has not been completely expropriated, and even that is questionable. Russia and China are fully pledged to the NWO.
The question is, how will Eurasia best be exploited in the coming century?
It will not be via the Anglo-American empire –unless the latter prevails in a world war which is doubtful.
IC will partake of the fruits of Eurasia either way. I believe IC is in the process of shifting its affinities from west to east. Part of this shift involves the multilateral transition you are cataloging up here.
The recalcitrance we are noting, imo, is driven by the Anglo-American empire’s reluctance to fade away without a fight. How the military industrial complex arranges itself in this dispute will be important.
I think IC normally adopts a Darwinian approach to the horizontal battles. It all resolves upwards in the fullness of time. That’s the power of the Rule of 72.
Sketchydetail MARCH 5, 2015 AT 1:10 AM The Chinese Buy Billboards Announcing The Renminbi As “The New World Currency” by Tyler Durden on 03/04/2015
The billboard was from the Bank of China. It said: “RMB: New Choice; The World Currency”
A new interesting twist in this on-going game. From Zero-Hedge
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-04/chinese-buy-billboards-announcing-renminbi-new-world-currency What do we think of that?…
JC Collins MARCH 5, 2015 AT 1:13 AM I would say see the post I just published called The Redback Revolution. It didn’t say the “primary reserve currency”. It’s stating that the RMB is now a world reserve currency. As we had all expected.
Sketchydetail MARCH 5, 2015 AT 1:26 AM Funny JC, I just finished reading the new post and thought to myself, that the above post should be moved to your new piece,’The Redback Revolution’. :-)
JC Collins MARCH 5, 2015 AT 1:30 AM We are living in fascinating times my friend.