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In the past few weeks I have witnessed more confusion over "the groups". People were questioning whether they were signed-up, signed-up with the right group, signed-up with the WF group, anybody's group; panic and mayhem.
It seems to me a wise move to allow everybody and anybody who desires to be a part of specifically the WF group the opportunity to sign-up now, eliminating the quests work. Unfortunate ly, all family and friends would have to sign up for themselves but it certainly simplifies the process and any possibility of confusion for WF.
As adults we are responsible to make our own decisions, and no one is being forced to participate in the group; and if you participate and you feel it's a risk, just remember "risk is the price you pay for opportunity!"
Thanks to Recaps and all who sacrifice their time, family and resources on my behalf, you are greatly appreciated!
Thanks for all you do!
I am kicked off general64 site for helping others sign up because they don't have access to a computer, they signed up from my home computer to get this deal, and so we get thrown out because we used one IP address? I don't get it !!!!
Wow, I'm signed up but the more and more I am reading the more RED flags go up in my mind. Looks like maybe they want an ACTUAL way to track each dinar holder.... For good, for bad.... I don't know but I am not liking what I am seeing. This has turned into an absolute mess and I'm afraid it is making people who once trusted, go the other direction.
My thing is that I signed up to general 64's list to get a second option and friends of mine asked for help to get them in on that list also, well they don;t have access to a computer so we used mine here from home they all signed up for gmail accounts just for thos, and so now general64 said fake address which are not true, but because there was more then 1 or even 2 sign ups from my IP address I get booted along with 4 others who were signed up I tried to be christian about it and there is no way to explain to anyone why I have 5 emails from my IP address this is not right........
Use a proxy or VPN service. You can sign everybody up and the IP address will always be different.
That is a problem and certainly not the solution for this group package. Some people do not understand that not everyone has a computer or they are scared to do this by themselves. Jason, not everyone knows what a proxy or VPN service is. Someone else said go to the library. I am sure that is secure. The bottom line, if someone does not like what you are doing and boots you for sending numerous emails for the people they have given dinars too - then this is not a Christian thing to do and everyone that posts say they are a Christian. Some need to act like one.Hang in Ron, everyone keeps saying God will take care of us. Maybe this is our sign from Him.
I signed up this morning and so did my brother. He lives with me, so same IP address. I haven't been kicked out of the group as of 10:47pm.
Relax. It has been explained that the system will only accept an ip address once. Tomorrow morning, if the re-open the sign up, set up a gmail account for each of your people and register them at that time. Everyone that was trying to sign up multiple people with one ip address was kicked by the server. Hope this helps....
Regarding re-registering with the original Generals group, this is my comment/question to whom ever this applies;
Does anyone know why it has become necessary to re-register with the Generals64/Studley Group? Do we know if the original website/list has been compromised? (hacked?) How can we reach them to ask if they would please gives us some assurance this is not the case, as well as they will not sell or otherwise provide our personal information to any 3rd party other than Wells Fargo?
Thank you Recaps for doing what you can to facilitate this for us.
I am trying to sign up a family member at Generals 64 site and it won't allow me access it says and so I called my daughter and she tried to get in to help and it won't allow her either!
I just read earlier they closed their sign up cuz they were getting so many negative emails & slams. Look for the earlier post here on recaps.
You guys are awesome! Thanks for your service!
Just signed Up
today. Great site and keep up the good work
After reading the comment posted by Ron about being kicked off of the Generals64 site because he let someone use his computer / IP address to sign up. My friend is coming here later with that exact same plan. What other can be done at this late date, now that giving him the 800# will not be an option any longer?
He does not have a computer or an email address, so we planned on helping him out,setting up an email account etc. from my computer, Is this going to become a nightmare for us both?
If its this difficult, it may not be worth it. How many more "unknown" strings are attached? I am very disappointed at how this is being handled with little explanation. The street rate is looking better and better with the ability to know everything at the time of C/E. No hidden agenda, no strings attached. It is what it is and YOU will be in control! Just my opinion!
My advice is take him to library and hope no one else signed in from there.....
Thank you for all you do! We appreciate it. Generals64, don't let a few detractors muddy the waters or dim the light you shine.
There seems to be a lot of hurt feelings and frustrated and/or angry folks out there; a lot of which has to do with rattled nerves and a fair amount of confusing information from several different sources. Some gurus were unequivocaly stating that under NO circumstances should anyone give their personal information out regarding this investment; then, there is a post yesterday stating that we cannot be in the "group" with WF unless we give information like that. Recaps and others involved in the structuring of these groups, please be more patient, even with the hot heads. Cutting folks off in order to punish is not, imo, the best route. this has never been about going backwards into events to relive the past, but to progress into a future wherein we all are blessed beyond our wildest expectations. I request that all "gurus" get together on the same page, exercise some collective patience in spite of hot heads, and realize with more and more wisdom what is at the root of all the confusion and frustration to bring the rest of us into the same light you all seem to be in. and, to General64, regardless of someone's harsh words spoken likely in a moment of this frustration I have mentioned, please do your best to rise above the insults and impatience of others. The best way to handle truly foolish people is to ignore them, not addressing their foolishness with any regard toward retaliation or punishment. Their own foolishness, if persisting, will lead them to remove themselves from blessings apart from your making that so. Keep providing the simplest and most accurate information to the dinarian world desperate to have such information, and please try your best to have it make sense in a logically progressing way. I am quite respectful of all the hard work you folks do, but I am relatively blind in this, and I have felt quite a lot of the same frustrations you and other gurus seem to have been experiencing from others. Take a breath, in all sincerity, and realize that the KING is still and always on His throne. Blessings to you all.
Wonderful post Tim. I agree and the comment from gen: " [generals64] We have the right people working on this and we are capturing all the IP addresses of those causing problems and this will be fun..."
IMO.... Uncalled for!
I am reading posts of people who are trying to help others and are getting banned because of more than 1 email from that IP address, and this is how they are being treated? Makes me very sad. I am just shocked and extremely saddened at what is going on. All over MONEY!
Everyone just needs to step back and show some respect to one another..... Please...... Lets be patient and respect one another!
Agreed with both of these posts. I did sign up and the email is in my spam folder. I have not responded yet for the simple reason of the people I have gifted dinars to.....they were skeptical of this investment when I told them about it last year and didn't have the money to lose. I gave them dinars so they would not be out any money if the CE never occurs. My friends will not sign up on their own and give their names and zip codes. I even had my doubts of doing it in the first place. I thought about getting their names up on my computer but that is not my place to put their names out there. As it turns out, I would have been booted if I had tried anyway.
We have been told all along that OM would give the 800 number for WF and he has posted today, he was not aware of any changes. I do appreciate all the work everyone has done but it comes down to....what is going on?? Even though these people are working their behinds off to get information out there for us, I still do not understand so many different opinions. Some sites say there is no group package, some say they are there and you will miss out if not signed up. Questions.....
How can WF give a higher rate if the others can't. I know...volume, however, I could go in with my 6 people and we would have volume. Will they turn us down without a group package?
Someone, cannot remember which one - said, WF will take 11% for taxes and all we will owe is interest earned. Only tax on the CE will be 11%. If they can do that, wouldn't the other banks be able to do that if the Government agrees to only 11% at cash in time?
It is not that we are not grateful but there are as many opinions on this CE, cash out, group packages as Carter's has liver pills.
When money comes into it, people change, people get nervous, angry and lash out. Nothing new there.
It would be nice for all the gurus to come together, lay out their plan and thoughts and see who is right and who is wrong so people won't get agitated and insult someone to the point of them closing their site and thinking it will be fun to watch as the boot someone off.
I am going to sit back, cash in when it happens and never look back. I will never know if I could have gotten more money because of the dreaded NDA. Keep cool everyone, what ever we get is more than we had. Peace out.
I signed up myself, my mom, and 3 friends that I am gifting too....sure hope this works
Please help - evidently I am not the only one who can't access General's site - it says "forbidden" - then I read that they closed their site because of naysayers - I am not one - just trying to sign up to get the best rate - HELP
mine is FORBIDDEN also I know what you mean they need clarification then email us and clarify why we were booted because all the emails that was signed up from here are active and good but my friends Marty, Bob, Tom, Steve and myself guess we have to see what Okie provides us with here.....
They have no computer so I relay info that I read........
This household very much appreciates what you have done for us who you don't even know!!
to [Generals64]...since you have apparently chosen to shut your site access off to many potentially hundreds or thousands of people who are truly seeking information, but frustrated with the often overwhelming mass of what seems like inconsistent information posted by dozens of different sources, perhaps it is best you step away from managing anything for a while. You have, in your anger at a few, now only served to hurt a great many who're simply searching for truth about the dinar and how to receive the best rates possible in a clear manner, including myself. I hope you were not "offended" at any of my actions or postings, but I also think you are extremely overreacting. A blanket response to the masses in the wake of only a few knuckleheads is the way of dictators and tyrants. I do not think you are either of those, but you have not reacted wisely here, imo. I pray you will respond shortly with a considerable amount more humility, and reopen your sign-up group to the many who've now been unintentionally severed from this. If you keep on this path, which I've seen others travel before, then I fear you'll be only one in a much smaller group presenting yourselves to a bank which expected much more. Whether in your group or not, the LORD has already chosen the blessings for me. I don't know your faith, but I recommend you read Psalm 51 before continuing any further. I pray blessings for you and those who work thanklessly too often in this.
Semperfi!! Right On! Took the words from me!! Don't dump gold on my lawn..you'll ruin my yard!!
It seems there are many affraid that, since the Generals64 site no longer can be accessed, those of us who didn't see or have a chance to sign up will get cheated out of the best rates. What's going on here, why all of a sudden are the rules changing just minutes before the release of the C/E?
As I am well versed in law, in particular a lot of contract-law, I should caution [Generals64] and others similar against cutting off individuals from the bank group information sign-up lists. There is more than a preponderance of prima facie evidence that this action to remove folks from this list, after they had in good faith submitted their information to to so and expecting the performance by the site managers to ultimately provide the promised CE information, represents the difference in potentially millions of dollars in loss to those removed from site access. That is indeed litigable, possibly under class action, and the damages in this case could easily wipe out ALL gain from IQD CE individually made by [Generals64] and others involved. I do not say this here to be in any manner interpreted as a threat or a warning as to my own actions. I do not want any financial harm to come to anyone in this, and I strongly recommend you rethink your decision to shut the site down, for the good of all, which has always been the purpose in this. This could easily become a very serious battle amongst folks who should never have been at odds in the first place, unless cooler heads prevail.
I signed up my daughter and sister using the same e mail. Please let us in. My sister has no e mail and I will surprise my daughter when the time comes. Thank you
Thank you RECAPS!! It's a full time job that doesn't really pay...until the BIG PAYDAY. Thank you for all you do!
Recaps....to 'all' of you involved. Thank you!!!!
Is there a proper way to gift someone? Do I sign a letter to her to show tax man where money came from? Help, please!
Laura, proof of gift is done through your notarizing a letter and/or affidavit stating:
1. Plainly & simply that you're gifting your IQD;
2. The amount of IQD (& I put the serial number of the specific note, but a photocopy of that specific gifted IQD note would suffice);
3. The date it was gifted;
4. The exact legal name of the receiver;
5. The purchase value of that IQD note (w fees & value my one gifted IQD 25k note was @ $30--this is critical so ss to not burden your receiver w a tax liability after RV for amount over $10k);
Remember, don't sign letter/affidavit until you're sitting in front of the notary. I used my WF banker at no charge as she's a notary, which most banks have in their branches.
I hope that helps.
Look online for basic Affidavit and/or Notary formats, copy & paste them to your individual letter/affidavit.
open would be good