[cruiser] GM all! Very interesting day in NYC. Grid lock alert around the United Nations, for those who care about the traffic.
[dinar1203] cruiser - what's new in NYC?? roflmao
[sandytob] cruiser hi. why grid lock alert....someone important visiting?
[BigB] cruiser Is this just normal NY traffic or is there something else causing this?
[cruiser] dinar1203 Grid lock alert is to warn about even more traffic.
[Stitch] cruiser traffic alert!! :superlachen:
[sandytob] cruiser so, why?
[cruiser] sandytob Important people.
[sandytob] cruiser do you know who?
[sananddan24] Cruiser when is the meeting over?
[BigB] cruiser What was scheduled for today?
[cruiser] BigB something about Palestine gaining a bigger spot in the UN.
socalcutie] cruiser GM did you see the artcile that 2012jesue posted. out in the open now, EVERYBODY read this, it is OUT and published, RV on the way talks clearly and concisely of the revaluation of currencies and specifically IRAQ
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[mbd4049] socalcutie gm and ty for the article
[socalcutie] mbd4049 i can't take credit, it was good ole 2012jesus
[cruiser] socalcutie That is not an article, but a blog in which someone gives his/her opinion, not different than me or you giving ours.
[socalcutie] cruiser i did not know that but it should be picked up by news agencies don't you think. he is right on
[sandytob] cruiser so it sounds like the UN thing is not related to the RV if it's about Palestine. By the way, they often have very important people coming to the U.N. This is nothing unusual.
[cruiser] sandytob No they do not. I have been to the UN. Generally the "big dogs" report there every couple of months. Today is the "big dogs".
[sandytob] cruiser but maybe not having to do with the rv is all i'm saying
[mbd4049] cruiser aren't they voting on Palestine's whatever ?
[Josey Wales] Geithner and Reid meeting.........Talks about Fiscal Cliff......should be interesting
[oucrazy] cruiser . . . if you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!! lol
[cruiser] socalcutie So what this person did, was take ideas from everyone around dinar land and put together a summary. Gee, that is really news worthy.
[sananddan24] Cruiser give us your thoughts today, on the where we are in dinarland?
[sandytob] cruiser of course we don't know what global events might play a role, but important meetings happen every day and I don't think that we can assume that it is all related to the RV is all.
[socalcutie] cruiser i get it, but i think a year ago, they also had a bit of detail in their blog. i read over the date
[cruiser] socalcutie Who has details? they have opinions. Anyone who puts a rate in their statement makes it opinionated, since no one knows that. No one knows the formula to figure out how much a currency will be valued.
[socalcutie] cruiser what are your thoughts that the old system ends tomorrow and new system is brought online thereby allowing for the RV at somepoint in the future? I am hearing this
[Josey Wales] mbd4049 .................I pledge Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with Liberty and Justice for all.........Lets all get re-excited about where we sit in our investment.....We still live in a free country, and control our own fate......Things must change Globally.
[dinar1203] cruiser thinks for the info
[cruiser] socalcutie What system? There are a few at play and will be changing
[socalcutie] cruiser nobody i know stating rates. the current banking system is dying, i hear tomorrow. Can't get verification in print... yet. but new system Basel III brought on this weekend. I guess it may be possible.
[mbd4049] sananddan24 smile all day long because you know something that 9,000 other people know and no one else does grin
[ConeyDog] cruiser (thinking the same thing)
[cruiser] socalcutie Basel III goes online January 1 2013.
[socalcutie] cruiser i know but wouldn't that be the new system? at least for banking
[sananddan24] Mbd4049 what doI know that 9000 people do not know?
[cruiser] socalcutie For large banks, over 500M in assets. What about the small banks, under 500M
[socalcutie] cruiser that is probably why i can't get verification yet
[mbd4049] sananddan24 you and 9,000 here in our group know about the dinar, but most of the rest of the world don't know grin
[redhead1] There were 69,000 people on the Get Team call last night -that is alot of people waiting for news
[goose67] redhead1 did they say anything of importance??
[ConeyDog] cruiser - how are the markets behaving today?
[raptor22] puppylove gm what did TK say?
[presley] raptor22 Friday ((((Rumor))) lol
[redhead1] I was not on the Get Team call - I received the information from someone else in our group - they said Historian gave alot of good information - there may be a replay but I am not sure -
[wheezer2] cruiser gm..need some hopium......any market observations, etc?
[cruiser] wheezer2 someone looked to be right about the European markets yesterday. lol
[Josey Wales] cruiser nice job predicting that
[ConeyDog] cruiser - I'm not plugged into the news yet today ... what is going on with the European markets?
[cruiser] ConeyDog they are up
[ConeyDog] cruiser - the reaction you thought then given the markets yesterday?
[raptor22] cruiser hope before Christmas
[BigB] cruiser Sharing on a chat site requires commitment. If you bring garbage, the only thing that will happen is a bashing. If you bring in highly sensitive info, you could face "real" consequenses for yourself and family. We know the sites are monitored.
[cruiser] ConeyDog in relation to the gold sell off and that money moved into European markets, while the U.S. gets their drama figured out
[sananddan24] BigB monitored by who?
[BigB] sananddan24 Homeland security for one. They monitor everything.
[cruiser] BigB I understand that and that is why Shining has chose to go silent. The info that was shared, very possibly could have been too much, and IMO was not needed for everyone to know about since everyone was shocked to learn of certain things that have been discussed before.
[okrocks] the fact is silence with no talk of rates or dates is what is being promoted...
ConeyDog] cruiser - I suppose recovery on the drama can't be estimated... just wondering if there's a usual refractory period on something like what happened yesterday
[cruiser] ConeyDog not at all.
[ConeyDog] cruiser ok thanks :)
[BigB] cruiser Too bad I missed that post!
[cruiser] BigB What post?
[ConeyDog] BigB - he was just saying that the european markets today are behaving as he predicted yesterday
[findmoney] Cruiser This is just getting weirder by the minute. Ya know the markets are being manipulated somehow. Im usually pretty good at figuring that stuff out. But with flat money velocity in the markets Im puzzled as to what they are doing?
[Stash] The local bank janitor and his cousin the janitor of the local Baptist church are both under a gag order now....first time for both of them to be......dang.....thought for sure he would tell me something this morning
[sandytob] cruiser I hope that shining is going to be all right. It must be difficult to come onto a site and constantly have people trying to pry information from you and not spill something.
[cruiser] sandytob actaully pretty easy roflmao
[KajunRedBull] sandytob..the way I see it (not that it matters to anyone) when you step into a role to be a speaker, leader, teacher, whatever you must also be prepared to accept the consequences be it positive or negative!
[okrocks] not sure if I agree with silence is golden....
[socalcutie] sandytob easier to stay silent and not come on isn't it
[BigB] findmoney I think they (PTB) are just holding things together until they are ready for the realignment.
[findmoney] BIGB They gotta be runnin outa glue by now ya think
[socalcutie] appreciate all of you, all the mods, cruiser, shining, cisco,gurus. thanks for news and opinions . BBL have a fabulous day. Smiles
[ [BigB] sandytob It is only bad when you know specific sensitive info. I don't have that problem.
cruiser] findmoney IMO, I think China needs to dump the TBonds for pennies on the dollar. This will cause a shock to the system like no other. I just do not think that will happen. That would be very drastic, but is a possiblity.
[wheezer2] cruiser and i have begun to think that everyone with large debt should file bankruptcy here in the U.S. lol that would sure shake things up
[BigB] findmoney It is like one of those rubber band balls. Sooner or later, you just can't stretch the rubber bands around the ball as it is too big. Need more and better glue!
[findmoney] I guess they are giving us hints. It was/is on the main stream media that pennies and nickles will be no more in 2013
[cruiser] wheezer2 possibly
[misskitty05] cruiser stupid Q but if China does that what happens to those who have invested in treasuries in the USA ... do they get hammered?
[cruiser] misskitty05 yep
[cruiser] misskitty05 that is why investors were advised to get out of the bond market, think it was last week or 2.
[2012jesus] findmoney plus the paper dollar going away going to coin next year
[redhead1] I did see the first ads on Headline news yesterday - asking people to participate in the Global Business of bringing their business to China - very nicely produced - my first thoughts were "what are they doing" - global business.
[flashing] dinar1203 mbd4049 KajunRedBull the misinformacion is rampant every passing day and there are countless people trying to justify using methods of self defense that are only used by people who can not accept they are wrong. psychology class 101 roflmao
[findmoney] 2012jesus. I have not found a paper bill in circulation printed beyond 2009?
[2012jesus] findmoney not saying printed
[redhead1] findmoney - they are now considering stopping the quarter in 2014 as it costs $.21 to manufacture
[BigB] findmoney Yes, I read that but it does not make sense if the dollar is going to devalue 25%-60%. We will need those pennies!
[mbd4049] findmoney aren't we going to Treasury Bills in 2013?
[misskitty05] cruiser would the same apply to those in something like GNMA funds?
[cruiser] misskitty05 it would apply to anything pegged to the USD.
[misskitty05] cruiser ok thanks
[presley] Kill the dollar bill, for $1 coins instead? http://money.cnn.com/2012/11/28/news/economy/dollar-coins-bills/index.html?iid=HP_LN
[2012jesus] cruiser who with shabbie or imf ,or rothchild
[mbd4049] presley they tried that once and it didn't work out
[ConeyDog] presley - its expensive to perpetually re-print $1 bills that wear out
[BigB] findmoney No one has ever brought info in as to the date on the money. Is it the date printed or is it the date of the of the plates? Or is it the release date?
[findmoney] The date on the bottom of the front of the bills. Ive been looking for months. I have not seen one with a date past 2009. Some of the $1 bills I get are so worn out that you barely see Washingtons face
[presley] mbd4049 yes, susan b.anthony coin right?
mbd4049] presley yep
[weimar] the dollar coin has never had a chance, as long as there are paper bills - then it won't work. And there have been many tries, Sacajewia coins, the dollar (presidents) coin, etc
[mbd4049] findmoney IMO the new treasury bill wl be taking the old bills' place beginning 2013 with the intent to get the old money off the streets by 12/31/13
[findmoney] I think at this point in the game there are little facts just opinions left. But we all know somethings gotta give soon or were gonna run out of money for our Obama phones