(crossways] This is the day the Lord has made!!! Let's rejoice and be glad in it!! :
[Josey Wales] ~I pledge Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with Liberty and Justice for all.
[Josey Wales] GOD BLESS OUR BRAVE TROOPS, AND ALL OUR VETS WORLDWIDE............THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE!!!!
[~healthy3] I have a question. Is anyone else as confused about this blessing as I am? Is this still "smoke"?
[moonchild] I think that what happened is that Iraq just nationalized their previously private central bank. Every country should do that.
[deb2blessed] I have never been so confused....no way to figure it out...
[moonchild] the world would be a far more peaceful place if the US and UK nationalized their central banks and would then not start wars for the benefit of the PTB central bankers.
[kazorlando] puppylove I think we will all be confused about this until we have a deposit slip in our hand!
[~healthy3] I feel like we are farther instead of closer. I don't read everyone, never did but even those that I do have conflicting opinions!
[moonchild] I truly believe that the "power sharing"/seated GOI story was a total fabrication simply to give a semi legitimate reason for the PTB/CBI to keep raking in money while the IQD was not RVed.
[spades] the trick was remove shabbs the treat is someone else will prolly get credit for the rv
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[moonchild] the big hurdle that our investment may be facing is getting the IMF (also controlled by the PTB along with the WB) to endorse the RV
[mbillions] moonchild So you think after the speech she gave the other day, the IMF is not on board?
[moonchild] what I have been trying to tell people for a while already is that Shabibi is no more than another puppet controlled by his bosses, the Rothschilds and company. He is closely tied to the IMF who also are controlled by the same people.
[crossways] moonchild I totally agree with you.
[moonchild] mbillions not sure that we can trust anybody's words, the actions of the IMF have not been clearly helpful to anything.
[~healthy3] crossways moonchild that makes sense but now what?
[moonchild] ~healthy3 now the US (at the direction of the PTB) will probably try to get Shabibi/the PTB reinstated.
[mbillions] moonchild So who are the players against such powerful forces...
[~healthy3] moonchild so we wait and see?
[moonchild] I can see the US using force to do this since typically they have started wars with countries which did not have privately owned central banks
[crossways] moonchild Is it true that Shabibi wants to retire? Or is that the rumor the ptb want us to believe?
[spades] just a thought ... perhaps shabbs has gotton the value of the dinar on par where he was told to . now his job is complete . So now he disapears with no fan fare and a true appointie is placed by the people and the goverernment get to say a real goi appointe not imf or us person brings their currency
[2012jesus] moonchild war in iran and syria
[moonchild] remember the wars with Iraq, Libya, and trying to take over Syria and Iran....all without privately owned central banks.
[spades] back to the level it was . to save face of the country .
[moonchild] crossways he probably does want to retire, he is no spring chicken. He is even older than I am.
[~healthy3] spades possible
[moonchild] do we see a pattern of the US, and the UK, acting on the orders and to fulfill the wishes of the PTB?
[~healthy3] moonchild I do think he may want to retire. It is sujch a shame the the PTB still have such power. I thought this long wait was to strip some of that- maybe not
[moonchild] ~healthy3 the long wait was to enrich the PTB. I do think he wants to retire. Remember that the US moved a significant number of troops into Iraq recently. Do you think the PTB suspected what was going to happen?
2012jesus] iraq is ready for rv ,,
[spades] moonchild I agree imo the troops are there two fold . one keep maliki in check and for our new bases . also keep an eye on syria and iran .
[moonchild] spades do you think that they were maybe moved there right now because the PTB had gotten wind of the impending nationalization of their central bank and that they could use the US/US troops to get control of it back again?
[spades] moonchild really I am not sure on that yes they could be , but lagarde, how ever you spell . said there was still some obstacles in the way . and they needed to move now perhaps shabbs was an obstacle and sone maliki will be gone too . who really knows .
[captaincaveman] Ok. Think about this. 1.Bernanke puts out a statement that emerging market countries should raise the value of their currencies. 2. Lagarde puts out a statement about changing the global banking system. 3. Recent CEO changes in several HUGE banks around the world. 4. Investigation in CBI about manipulating the exchange rate of CBI.
[2012jesus] here is something to think about ,,,,a few months back someone told me maliki was not the bad one ,,,or the hold up ,,just saying
[captaincaveman] II really think Iraq is not in control. This may be a way of putting a story in the media to explain a rise in the value of the IQD very soon
TLane] I was told that at the end of the Kuwait RV that they said that the leader of Kuwait had died. Then after the RV it came out that he was alive and well. I don't know if I believe that Shabibi has done anything wrong, it could be smoke!
texascamper] Yesterday was crazy...I hope today goes our way
cruiser] Well at least all of the Iraq talk, gives everyone something to talk about. roflmao
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[BigB] cruiser puppylove captaincaveman It appears most of us are sitting here scratching our heads not really knowing how to take this latest news. I originally thought it to be pure smoke. After reading Bond lady, I'm more confused. Any thoughts?
cruiser] BigB we are supposed to be confused. That is why I do not look at Iraq. Give me a headache.
[captaincaveman] Cruiser im out of memory space in my brain. Server keeps crashing. Need system reboot and more RAM
[cruiser] captaincaveman or you need to remove some of the old data and flush it down the recycle bin. roflmao
[captaincaveman] Cruiser defrag
[BigB] cruiser captaincaveman I'm thinking I'm going to spend a lot less time on the sites. I've started second guessing myself and I know that is bad. As you stated, we are supposed to be confused. But I still believe it not just about Iraq.
[captaincaveman] BigB the people in charge of the media scheme are doing a good job
[hog1] cruiser : are you able to pick up any other signs or indicators from markets,news or intel that we are making progress beside the circus with M & S?
cruiser] hog1 markets are ready for it and have been for the last couple of months.
[cruiser] BigB Iraq is one of 140 countries involved. The banking system will be changed. Currency system will be changed. Political systems will be changed. So yes. Iraq is a little part of this.
[BigB] captaincaveman cruiser I think my problem is that I just don't trust bankers and the people that control the banks.
[captaincaveman] BBigB most people dont. For good reason. Thats one reason for the change in the banking system
[cruiser] BigB that is why they are being removed, se yesterday as an example.
[wheezer2] cruiser gm...so what is your gut and any "intel" telling you
[wheezer2] bankers = attorneys , no offense meant
cruiser] wheezer2 We are just waiting. When you can understand how big this is and the complexities behind the mechanics of it and then you take in very powerfull people's agendas, it just adds to the complexity. Will it hapen? Yes!! IT HAS TO HAPPEN!! the question that will always be asked: when will it happen? That is the answer no one has!!!
captaincaveman] Cruiser I vote for today!!!
BigB] cruiser captaincaveman I remember the old days when local banks actually had several loan officers. Their jobs were to loan money! I think they are all gone!
BigB] cruiser captaincaveman Working in the private sector my whole life, I can't see where any of the QE1, QE2, or QE3 has helped anyone except fund the growth of government.
hog1] cruiser : do you currently think this process has slowed down, stalled, still moving forward, gaining momentum, at warp speed scotty?
[cruiser] hog1 Nothing has changed in Global Economy. Countries are still broke. Rioting is occuring in countries. IMO there no one will ever see it coming. It will just smack us in the face when we least expect it.
[Stitch] cruiser I am ready to be smacked!! roflmao
[calibeach] If this is all to confuse and just smoke they would have to do it soon before the smoke clears! JMHO
[captaincaveman] What I find interesting is the fact that hardly any Iraqi political or economic news makes the msm in the US. So why would they put it out now?
[mbillions] captaincaveman Good question...
[calibeach] captaincaveman exactly, they only put out what they want you to hear!
[BigB] captaincaveman There is always an underlying reason for the news media's coverage.\
[spades] I feel that the mainstream media if it does not fit their bad template then they're not going to report it
[captaincaveman] BBigB maybe to explain a sudden rise in value to an audience that doesn't follow the dinar or Iraq when they decide to RV in the near future?
[cruiser] Yuan seeing a 'stark increase in appreciation': http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19973324