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Delta - Replay 12-28-11
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Frank begins the dinar update after a sponsor's info at 42:33 Delta starts at 47:00
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Main issue - articles coming up about the government
Iraqi TV and inside Iraq - everyone's come to the conclusion that Maliki isn't the problem
I was one of the few taking his side vs. Allawi, but it's more than that
Problem: Saudi Arabia is the most powerful on earth
M isn't a bad guy -- he's a hero - the only one working the hardest for his country (no one is perfect) but doing something
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_Saudi Arabia, HCL oil law should have been passed a long time ago, but SA paid people under the table
There was a big action from SA and other countries trying to take out M. they don't like him because he's Shiite
M does whatever he wants to do and why action is going on now
Iraqi list have joined Maliki
Today on Greek news, Pres. Talibani talked to the Parliament (Nejafi) - the VP case -- may put in some observers to make sure that the courts are going to go the right way...even though 5 judges studied again the accusations to come up with the right conclusions and came up with the fact that the VP was really to blame (Thank God they found out about it now)
M put it aside but when he found out they were trying to assassinate him, he's been trying harder -- he had to
A high source in Iraq said this one will be solved -- judges will move the case to N. Iraq -- he has to come to the court and face the judgement -- either way, it looks like M. is the hero
Iraq has the right -- if someone from the US or other countries, is it fair for him to go back to his country, no
Iraq got the best negotiators with the US and M got what he wanted
The Prime Minister can fire anyone who doesn’t show up for their meetings – financial minister is one of them but moving forward and nothing is going to delay
VP will be resolved next week…the head of the coalition and looks like they’re going to solve their problems, but I don’t think it has anything to do with our investment
Remember 150,000 troops in Iraq …we have an American base that belongs to the US
Vendors still have to buy…they used to have dinar, but now that they’ve left, they have to turn in all their dinars…probably what Shabibi was looking for until the troops left and that’s why we see all the auctions
Within 24 hours they grabbed 1 trillion dinars in 2 days..that’s amazing
The US armies flooded them with dinars and that’s why the USD was in demand
I got the word today that all the businesses (505) had a total of over 125 trillion dinars so all this money was in the market to be transferred to the US…we have a lot of dinars in the market, not in the CBI, but the black market
If it’s 1260 or 1500 – the 1170 is just to get their people used to it
They got a lot of dinars back so if you put all the calculations together, it’s a lot - -3 trillion
They sell a dollar and get about 13 dinars for every dollar…they’re making commissions too
There’s a lot of small shops and most authorized dealer for the CBI…they have all kinds of financial institutions
Foreign exchange got all the money from soldiers - They surrendered the dinar
Part of their dinars were from some of the Iraqi people, but most are saving it for the RV
When the people get the dinars, it belongs to the CBI
The money supply is down
They’re not going to give you the right number…if you go to their website, the key financial indicator used to show a spread sheet – if you go there, see if you can open that spreadsheet – I don’t know if has anything to do with our investment, but all of a sudden I can’t open it. [ As of Jan 2nd – go to: http://cbi.iq/index.php?pid=FinancialStatements ]
We do believe they have two books though
The most important part re: RV and what we expect over the next 4-5 days
Based on research, we really do believe something has to happen…tonight is the 29th Thursday before they come back to the business on Jan. 3rd
Something has to happen, not because of rumors, but because they have some kind of indication that they told us so many times the CBI said when the troops leave, they will RV
The financial committee of the Parliament said early 2012
If we don’t see any changes, it doesn’t make any sense because their fiscal year starts 1-1-12
They’re going to wait til the last second
They’re averaging about 280 billion dinars in one day
If the plan is for them to do it, they have to do it up to the auctions and then when they’re ready, they’ll do it
We may have to wait -- don’t panic
If they haven’t done the auctions by the 3rd, we don’t know what they’re doing
It’s possible the RV may go up to 2013..possible, but unlikely
Don’t you want your currency to be tradeable internationally?
Remember, don’t get confused about the Ch. 7th for the billionth time…everyone listen
The Ch. 7th was lifted last year and I can bet all my money on it – they were liberated but here’s the catch…it has nothing to do with the economy sanctions, but in order for the dinar to be tradeable they have to lift the 3 zero’s
They cannot trade internationally unless they lift the 3 zero’s
It’s all in the articles and they mentioned many times that if they lift it, the IQD will have value and then the IMF will support us
They say..what’s going on…Biden was there to lift it…I’m not sure why people are still confused and talking bout Ch. 7
It’s not about the currency – they’re loosing 5% every month and they want to finish
The catch: I repeat myself…Ch. 7, Ch. 7 – 140 Article (won’t be solved for 3-4 years) – it’s going to be a disaster and they have no money
In order to go to any American bank and see the IQD as a foreign currency, they have to lift the zero’s otherwise they’re the loser and they have no international currency
Dr. Shabibi…you better do it or you’re going to be in big trouble, and he knows it
[Frank: You don’t know how much I want to interrupt but I’m not…do you mind if I have this lady interrupt you for a minute?]
We’ve been waiting for our government to tell us about the tax programs and how to prepare themselves…our own president just asked to give another extension next year to raise the ceiling but we now seem to have more information about the taxes applied in 2011-12
DEVINA: Forum name is “blindfaith”
Someone told her about the dinar investment and mentioned that a colleague said there’s an change in the tax form…I do accounting by trade and researched it. The form is 8938 – any time you go to the IRS website, it will tell you the date it was last revised. The last one is 11-2011, but there’s a very interesting “future development” – irs.gov./form8938 Any question will be posted on that page.
If you do a search for 8938 for your tax forms, it will tell you when it’s been revised. Since then some of the stipulations have been changed since Dec. 15th and I’m waiting to hear from a CPA.
If you read the form, you have to file by the due date and included the following return…form applies to a list of LLC, S-Corp as well as your individual tax return. (She gives all form #’s)
Most interesting, when you get to pg. 4, it comes to specified forms – Statement of Specified financial assets - examples of other specified foreign assets, if held for investment and not held in a financial account…
Go to bullet point 1-5 – This is one of the others specified: INTEREST RATE SWAP, CURRENCY SWAP, BANK ?? SWAP…These instructions outline a lot – I’m not a tax consultant but it tells us about a foreign currency swap not held in a financial institution.
DELTA: There’s another form you need to fill out with the US Treasury – not taxs, if I’m not mistaken…if you have a foreign asset, you have to file by June 30th.
There’s another one you have to report – not taxes – besides the one she explained.
DEVINA: It explains how to treat this and that you must now satisfy your filing for any prior year – they’re saying, as I interpret it, if this were to RI or RV before Jan. 1st you could satisfy this form in Jan. 2012
Either way, you have to file it
FRANK: We don’t have to fill out anything if it happens in Jan 2012
JESUS: So, no matter when it RV’s, you’re screwed (LOL)
DELTA: That’s a good indication of all the changes – why are they doing it right now? It’s good news for us with all indication and confirmation that something has got to happen.
FRANK: We had no idea that Gen Protreas was going there and he told Maliki these are the things you need to clean up – just do it
The week before…we were saying, “Are you sure M is the good guy?”
They’re cleaning the whole room…Iraq and the government
DELTA; It will help the US with the economy. Iraq is like another state for the US – you have to take care of your people
If they don’t clean up their house, it will get pretty bad
The US knows about Saudi Arabia and whatever is going on in the Mideast and the last one is Saudi Arabia…they’re turn is coming up
FRANK: People are calling – are you sure? Ans: Yes, it’s not as bad as you think it is.
I bet all my dinars that the reason the Iraqi’s aren’t in civil war is because our efforts…there are many ways to win a war – internally, externally, tangibly – and one way is for the citizens of that country to help them get back on that feet. The citizens of Iraq should have destroyed that country by now…after 10-12 years…it’s us whispering in their ears that it’s necessary not to destroy – They say we need you, we say, fine, just listen to us.
Question from a caller to Delta: What is the political climate in Iraq on the streets? The news media paints it as a melt down…What do you say? Is there a possible consequence re; RV
DELTA; I was actually so happy what happened and the reason is that the truth is coming out…just sit there and think about it…whoever was doing while people were watching, they can’t do anything. There’s no melt-down and you’ll never see a civil war…this is nothing for the Iraqi people – corruption and a couple of bombs is nothing to what they’re used to when they killed their family –the Iraqi people are unbelievably patient people. I’ll take any type of problem except the religion problem but you’ll never see that because they’re trying to make it right with the Muslim, Shiite, etc.
Think about the last few days with the bombings…they caught those people and at the Kabbalah where the holy place was, they caught those people and their purpose was to create a conflict between one another.
Iraqi situation is different because everybody is supporting Iraq…every other country says…let them alone. The US wants Iraq – if you don’t see the RV for the next 5-6-7 days, that doesn’t mean it’s not going to happen.
When they’re pumping oil, they’re making money and the CBI shows their economy is the best ever
They have no issue other than the people between themselves with the coalition – Maliki, etc…this is the middle eastern mentality - -in the end we kiss each other like nothing happens like the democrats and republicans….they still respect them in the end, like sports.
At the end, they have to fix it and I’m happy it all happened right now instead of the future…they’re showing who’s doing it and M. comes out as a hero…tell me where is Allawi – getting paid $10-15,000 a month and hardly attended one session. Maliki and everyone is there.He’s a fighter.
FRANK: At the beginning of the year we thought of Allawi was a spineless, gutless guy…we wished Allawi had the same cahoones that Maliki had…we wanted back then we got today.
DELTA: Everyone is talking about what’s going on….without Maliki, they couldn’t do anything.
He’s not just going around talking bad about anything…he’s actually coming out on the conference call…you have to defend yourself the right way. Maliki knows how to convince people the right way – the rest come out fighting.
What is going on is what people are concerned about but has nothing to do with the RV, and we really do believe that even though the date and rate is classified, and that everything is done and they have their time because technically 1-1-2012 they are a sovereign nation
In order to do that you have to raise your currency. This is based on the information they gave us on tv, the media…
None of us know the date – the 29th – 3rd or 1st week of January they’ve told us and the Iraqis that whenever the troops leave, they will see the lower denom’s – so if nothing happens we have to see what happens until the 3rd.
FRANK: Last week I told everyone that Maliki is not only sounding like Shabbibi, but he’s sounding like Shabbibi in the sense that he’s running all over the place to do so many things…visiting the Kurds, doing a good job….and Maliki has produced new evidence against his accusers
DELTA: Maliki presented more solid evidences to the judges about the VP – want to make sure they didn’t rush through it – but the judges believe it’s all credible. Either way it’s a win-win situation for Maliki and the US. You won’t see the RV until everything is 100% correct…
FRANK: On Monday, I said don’t worry about it…but just as a snap, it’ll happen.
Q: Delta did not say the CBI would RV by Jan. 1st -- he said they have to RV by Jan. 3rd
Q: What calendar does the CBI go by? They go off of their fiscal year that is their own that started Dec. 23 –Delta: You have the Islamic calendar and the regular one everyone else uses, but Jan. 1st is the one they use but they’re off for the holiday.
Q: Do you think banks will have the Dela Rue machines? Frank: If the bank has to send them to headquarters to find out the authenticity, tell them no thank you because there’s many that you can see it in front of your eyes. The danger of releasing your dinars to someone else is trustworthiness, swapping, accident with the Brink’s truck, etc. Never let your dinar out of your sight.
Delta: Take 100,000 dinar – if I have 2 years to cash in, just put 25,000 dinar in and wait to see how long it takes to clear. Then, you have an indication of what’s going on. They may offer you how much they’ll give you, but what if something happens behind closed doors…and they say the money is fake. They’re not going to return it. So, you can test it and see what would happen with 25,000 – I don’t believe they’ll have a time limit, but there’s no rush to cash in everything.
Frank: If the rate is high, I’m going to run.
Delta: Yeah, if you think it’s going to be $3 like you said, yeah. They’re telling us they’re going to take 2 years to get them back, so why cash in right away? I just want to make sure there’s no cheating going on…it’s for safety purposes.
Q/A: The Parliament is meeting in the houses like at Talabani…no one trusts Parliament since the bombings (LOL) Hopefully they don’t need that until the 3rd.
Q/A: Deadlines: Why was everything set – for nothing?
They have more dinar than dollars…they’re making about 6 to 7 billion/month from oil. Their budget is more than that. They need 10-15 billion to survive as a nation…if it’s recognizable internationally, they’ll be more relaxed. So for them, their benefit to do it is to DO IT – they have to do it otherwise they don’t benefit.
Q/A: Have you seen the M2 numbers? -- Yes, they’re low, but I’m not going to pay attention to them because I don’t believe their true value.
Q/A: Someone told me the CBI for the dollar and pound went to zero. – It doesn’t mean anything and we can jump on everything, but it’s happened before so it’s not a big deal. The person in charge downloads the information and numbers either didn’t get the right numbers or it wasn’t ready for those two currencies….we don’t have to look at that.
Q/A: If the RV is about to occur, then the dinar the broker has is the only ones the have available? Are they curtailing sales? Yes – we’ve been told that. The 50 IQD is no longer being printed..Our broker said I have a specific amount that will be used as a gift to clients.
Have other denom’s dropped or are unavailable? No, just the 50.
Q/A: Who owns the CBI? Is it Rothschild? Yes -- they own every bank on the planet! (LOL) Look up the definition with the history of the federal reserve that will lead you to an island in the eastern part of the US. (Jeckyll Island)
Q/A: If we don’t see the RV by Jan. 15th, all the contracts they’re talking about that are worth millions and millions to rebuild Iraq…Yes, those same contracts were signed a long time ago, but the rate would not trigger those contracts. That happened a year and a half ago saying they were signed illegally – like with Exxon and big contracts recently.
DELTA: To confirm, none of us know the dates, but the windows we’re giving you from the CBI is all indication that they’re supposed to do it tomorrow or the next 3 days…not 100% but only based on our opinion based on the contracts and the troops leaving. All the contracts do not have enough money to pay them. Make sure that you understand there’s no 100% -- just giving you the windows and based on the information we have.
JESUS: Okay – nobody knows the rate or date, but we have received all kinds of confirmation and all kinds of ways that this is about to happen -- we simply can’t ignore them.
FRANK: We also don’t share them with you because it’s not logical to tell you that this person, in this part of the world has told us this – we use deductive reasoning and try to collect enough for you …I applaud my mod’s that you have always kept KTMF in a very, very peaceful environment, even though some have tried to come in and say they’re trying their very best, doing a job, but we welcome a counter debate but not child attidudes.
Unless you have an algorithm and have specific from a various place (don’tell us about the guru’s you get it from – I’m not proud of that). The hundreds of calls I get say thank you and I think my mod’s for a Christian environment with opinions as long as it’s not done in a childish manner with respect and grace.
JESUS: It’s not what you said, it’s how you say it.
DELTA: Last comment: Happy New Year – wish you the best and hopefully 2012 will bring health, prosperity, and love between all of us…remember to love each other and stay united and whatever the outcome is, make sure you know how to help each other…remember, it’s coming either way and the good news is we have it…so we’re lucky to have it. God bless you and I can’t wait to meet you all when the celebration happens.