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7shelia says():I juat got word that CNN just said the flag is flying over Mosuel? Do we have any news on this?
woodywoodpecker says():I think thats true
7shelia says():Has anyone brought that news into the chat room today Woody?
woodywoodpecker says():I yhink so but I have not been here all morning
7shelia says():ok. Thank you Woody. BGG I see you are in the chat room. Have we heard any news that the flag is flying over Moseul?
7shelia says():Can anyoe else answer this question?? Is the flag flying over Mosuel? Does anyone know?
1bobby says to 7shelia():I read some "citizens" raised an Iraqi flag. As far as being liberated......not yet
7shelia says():Thank you Bobby1
1bobby says to 7shelia():anytime
loop says(): Iraqi attack on Mosul begins as forces push toward Islamic State stronghold (Washington Post)
By sunrise, hundreds of Kurdish soldiers, known as peshmerga, were advancing in gun trucks and armored vehicles. But their movement was slowed by booby traps and roadside bombs, officers said.
By Loveday Morris and Kareem Fahim October 17 at 10:52 AM
KHAZIR, Iraq — Thousands of Iraqi forces advanced toward the northern Iraqi city of Mosul on Monday, the first step of a long-awaited offensive seeking to drive Islamic State militants from their main stronghold in Iraq.
Kurdish forces moved to take a string of villages east of the city, while Iraqi army and police units made a push from the south.
Announced before dawn in a televised address by Iraqi Prime Minister Haidar al-Abadi, the battle is the most ambitious offensive launched by Iraq’s security forces since they were created after the U.S.-led invasion in 2003.
By sunrise, hundreds of Kurdish soldiers, known as peshmerga, were advancing in gun trucks and armored vehicles. But their movement was slowed by booby traps and roadside bombs, officers said. The Islamic State has fortified its defenses of the city in recent months, erecting concrete blast walls and digging trenches.
The operation aims to push the militant group out of its de facto capital in Iraq, the most populous city it controls. More than 1 million civilians are thought to be trapped in the city.
Tens of thousands of Iraqi troops from an array of the country’s forces have been drawn together to achieve that feat: the peshmerga, Sunni tribal fighters, army troops, police officers, Shiite militias and elite counterterrorism units. From the sky and on the ground comes close support from the U.S.-led coalition.
Despite sometimes competing agendas, they have united — at least for now — to take back the Islamic State’s most prized remaining territory in the country.
Mosul, about 250 miles north of Baghdad, is the Islamic State’s last major stronghold in Iraq, and the city has come to symbolize the group’s rise here. It was in Mosul’s Great Mosque that Islamic State leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi announced his self-proclaimed caliphate more than two years ago.
loop says(): [Second part of Mosul battle: Keeping united if Islamic State ousted]
But since then, the group’s grip has slowly been broken. The cities of Tikrit, Ramadi and Fallujah have been clawed back by Iraqi forces, albeit with a heavy reliance on U.S.-led airstrikes.
It is only a matter of time before Mosul is recaptured, too, Abadi said.
“We will soon meet in Mosul to celebrate in liberation and your salvation,” he said, addressing the people of the city. “We will rebuild what has been destroyed by this criminal gang.”
After months of preparation, Iraqi government forces helped by a U.S.-led coalition, are engaged in a high-stakes battle to retake the northern city of Mosul from Islamic State. (Reuters)
As he spoke, an opposition group attacked a prison in the city, killing five guards and releasing those detained, said a military official who declined to be named as he was not authorized to speak to reporters. He cited “intelligence” from inside Mosul. But Atheel al-Nujaifi, who is the former governor of Nineveh province and who says he has contact with opposition groups inside, said he had not been able to verify the information.
Initially, the offensive on the eastern front will be led by the peshmerga, Iraqi and Kurdish military officers said. They are expected to advance to the edges of territory whose control has been long disputed with Baghdad.
Dozens of peshmerga fighters gathered in staging areas early Monday about 30 miles from Mosul, loading ammunition and supplies into Humvees and other armored vehicles. The soldiers spoke confidently about their mission, to capture a sequence of villages east of Mosul and near the town of Bartala.
“We are feeling great. It won’t take more than a day and a half,” said Maj. Bahram Bahjat, a peshmerga commander. He was far less confident, though, about the possibility of liberating Mosul itself, predicting it would take months and be a “bloody battle.”
As rows of armored vehicles barreled down dirt roads, toward villages obscured by smoke from fires set by the militants, the peshmerga forces were harassed by mortar fire but did not initially face heavy resistance, commanders said.
A suicide car bomb was struck before it could attack, according to Maj. Shivan Ihsan Saleh, pointing at a towering plume of smoke from a nearby hill.
“This is a dangerous enemy. They use booby traps, suicide bombs. Our information is that they have been digging tunnels,” he said, adding that “our morale is high.”
Medics near the front lines said at least one soldier was killed and two were injured. Kurdish security officials said three villages have been captured in the eastern offensive. The Iraqi military said nine villages were captured between the area of Gwer and the south of the city, while two others were seized by police and army forces as they advanced from Qayyarah air base, about 35 miles south of Mosul. The base is the main logistical hub for the Iraqi government’s operation.
But the military official said the villages were largely empty.
“The enemy booby-trapped them and then retreated,” he said. “The advance is very, very slow because of the booby traps.”
Thousands of Iraqi troops have moved into position for the battle in recent weeks, as new military staging areas have sprung up along the front lines.
More than 80,000 troops are involved, including engineers and logistical support, said Maj. Salam Jassim, a commander with Iraq’s elite special forces.
At a staging area in a hamlet near Khazir, east of Mosul, Jassim and his men were waiting for the order of their “zero hour.” The elite fighters are expected to make move past peshmerga lines and push into the city within days.
loop says(): [Mosul poses key test for U.S. strategies]
“We’ll take it,” Jassim said, sipping on a can of Tiger Energy Drink, a favorite among Iraqi forces. “There’s no doubt.”
As well as from here to the east of the city, Iraqi army and police forces are moving in from Qayyarah air base pushing up the main highway from Baghdad.
Trucks packed with Iraqi soldiers and military vehicles have clogged the roads as forces have moved into place. Tanks, armored vehicles and weaponry have been hauled from the capital.
“We’ll start after them and move after them to support them,” said Brig. Gen. Haider Obaidi, another commander with Iraq’s special forces.
Shiite militia forces are also expected to play a role. But they are not part of the force that is authorized to enter the city, in light of fears about sectarian abuses in the majority Sunni city and how the militias’ advance would be perceived.
The military official said that a planned simultaneous offensive from the north would not go ahead on Monday, although he said he was not sure why.
[Pentagon faced scrutiny for reports on Islamic State]
On Sunday night, Defense Secretary Ashton B. Carter said in a statement that “the United States and the rest of the international coalition stand ready to support” the effort. He added that “we are confident our Iraqi partners will prevail against our common enemy and free Mosul and the rest of Iraq from ISIL’s hatred and brutality.” ISIL is another name for the Islamic State.
Opinions are split on just how long and grinding the battle will be. Abadi has pledged to have the city back under Iraqi government control by the end of the year.
But Jassim is not sure that is possible, with booby traps and explosive devices expected to slow the city’s recapture.
Civilians, too, will complicate the battle. Between 1.2 million and 1.8 million are still in the city, he said.
To avoid a humanitarian crisis, the Iraqi government has asked civilians to stay in their homes, complicating air support and allowing operations to clear neighborhoods of militants.
“The operation will take much longer because of this,” Obaidi said. “For their safety, but it also means each neighborhood needs to be surrounded and searched as we clear it.”
Still, the U.S.-led coalition will give closer support than in any other operation, he said, and Apache helicopters probably will be used. On Sunday night, preparatory airstrikes rattled windows in the special forces base near Khazir.
The coalition has requested that the airspace be cleared of Iraqi jets, whose air support will be limited to the areas where Shiite militias are on the ground, Obaidi said.
“All the sky will be for the coalition,” he said. The western side of the city will be left largely open, which may make for a less protracted fight inside than if it was besieged. “We’ll try to give them an escape to run to Syria,” Jassim said of the militants.
Brig. Gen. Yahya Rasoul, a spokesman for the Iraqi military, said that even if the western side is left open, it does not mean a safe escape for the Islamic State. “If we do that, then this area will become a killing zone as we target them with our aircraft,” he said.
Fahim reported from Asquf, Iraq. Missy Ryan in Washington, Mustafa Salim in Khazir, Iraq, and Aaso Ameen Shwan in Asquf contributed to this report.
jetset says():i'm excited today.... progress is through the roof. we are another day closer!
1bobby says to jetset():(y)
jetset says():great news coming out of mosul! closer than ever to security stability
rcookie says():Daesh leaders confirms via voice-Baghdadi escape loudspeakers outside Mosul declared the end of his reign in the city (Details) 17-10-2016 04:08 PM Hits: 2153
Orbit News -Said a local source from within the city of Mosul on Monday, the leaders of the organization Daesh confirmed through loudspeakers to escape Abu Bakr Balbgdada out of the city, announcing the end of his reign in Mosul.
The source said in a press statement, the 'prominent leaders in the organization of terrorist Daesh, confirmed over loudspeakers in the city escape Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, outside the city of Mosul. "
The source added, they 'declared Anthad Baghdadi was sentenced to Mosul, after escaping this sudden shape of the city.'
rcookie says():Residents of two villages near Mosul succeed to join forces with the army after the Angdadhm Daesh
Monday 17-10-2016 | 8:53:20 Residents of two villages near Mosul succeed to join forces with the army after pouncing on Daesh
rcookie says():Iraqi prime minister: the risk Daesh will extend to the Gulf
October 17, 2016 Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi
Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi said that the draft regulation Daesh Islamic state "is not a danger to Iraq, but also on the countries of the whole world," noting that the threat of regulation may extend to neighboring countries.
He said al-Abadi, during a meeting with ambassadors and heads of diplomatic missions, that "the most suitable for the organization of regions in the future are Saudi Arabia and the Gulf."
The Iraqi prime minister stressed that his country has become a huge information on the organization.
Abadi called on Turkey to not to commit the mistakes of the former Iraqi regime, expressing his concern over the escalation of the Turkish statements about the military presence in Iraq.
Iraqi forces launched strikes backed by the international coalition to fight Daesh dawn on Monday in the editing process of Mosul, Iraq's second largest city, which was dominated by the organization had in 2014.