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Dinar Updates Tuesday Late PM Chat 11-22-16 Part 3 of 3
rcookie says():Put paper initiative rubber formula for the parties Bijaptha to a question, the settlement with whom? And offers the following answer «National Alliance forces seeking to engage with all actors in Iraqi society on diversity, whether they are within the state frameworks or the political process or outside, including political, religious and community Alugodat and opposition armed groups within the ceiling of the Constitution« exception Baath Party and Daesh every terrorist entity The penitential and racist »,
towards the historic agreement held with representatives of these parties, which owns admissibility and committed to the principles of initiative, and have resolved to represent the advice of representatives of the National Alliance) and clear text Baath Party exception, but how it would be classified parties which owns the admissibility of and committed to the principles of the initiative, noting that the resolution of representation will be advice National Alliance?
So specifically with the consent of the political parties, which is vague or unclear, and here it must be pointed to a dispute between the parties of the National Alliance, some refused to representatives yards sit in the Sunni provinces that preceded the fall of the provinces, however, the organization considered the representatives of these squares partners of the terrorist organization, while welcomed some of their presence as representatives of large lumps in their provinces.
The foundations on which will be the reconciliation process and accordingly has been identified by the paper as follows initiative, a comprehensive settlement and not a unilateral concession, and the principle of Allagalb and Allamglob, and yellowing of the crisis between the Iraqi parties, rejecting the use of violence as a political card to achieve political settlements.
It is not clear in this paragraph foundations reset crises, does that mean the closure of the previous differences files to be recycled corrupt political class again?
Um means opening all the corruption and internal strife and to hold accountable those responsible of all the blocks files? What are the party that has this ability to do so?
The principles that must be recognized by all the political parties by sitting around the historic settlement table has been set by the paper as follows: «faith and commitment in word and deed the unity of Iraq's land and people, and the preservation of its sovereignty and independence of the decision and its identity and its democratic system Parliamentary Fed refused to be divided under any circumstances.
And abide by the constitution as a reference and work done without selectivity, and willingness to undertake constitutional amendments in accordance with the mechanisms provided for by the Constitution itself, and agree on a political contract «under the roof of the Constitution» clarify and resolve contentious ICs and regulatory affairs of the state that are agreed on its files issues.
This implies a return to square one in the Iraqi political problem, since the Constitution needs to be amended to address lapses and gaps suffered by the political process, but as everyone knows that wrote the Constitution made him one of the closed type, which is difficult to amend it, a result of the need for this amendment to the majority constitutional not enjoyed by any of the blocs, and thus remain problems for a spin and produce crises breed of crises.
rcookie says():Paper initiative also pointed to the sensitivity of the point is to take stock of arms of the state, elastic manner, he stressed, the rule of law and bear arms,
however the state and not to allow the presence of armed entities or militias outside the framework of the state, and face the outlaws without discrimination, and to hold accountable diligently and negligent including members of the Department according to the law the security forces, and the adoption of the military service law, and to ensure that a peaceful society governed by law and on the basis of justice and equality, equality and respect for religious, sectarian and cultural specificities of all the citizens of the state.
Here we ask the question: What will put the popular crowd forces have swelled to up to more than 100 thousand fighters?
What about the dubious statements made by leaders of the National Alliance on regional role to PDF crowd after the liberation of the Iraqi land and the possibility of the involvement of these forces in the Syrian civil war?
Implying that these forces, despite the formal subordination to the General Commander of the Armed Forces - the prime minister, but that is their existence or resolved or integrated into military and security institution is still far off and the red line is feared many politicians untouchable.
Finally, I put paper initiative of the UN Mission in Iraq (UNAMI), as sponsor and guarantor for the implementation of the historic reconciliation and marketed locally and regionally, and here comes the most important question, Does the United Nations have the ability to adjust the reconciliation of such in the land is still full of mines caused by infighting political parties throughout the thirteen years ago?
rcookie says():MORE PERSPECTIVE TOWARD NATIONAL RECONCILIATION AND "HISTORIC COMPROMISE".....
jimplants says():the UN is supporting this it is a matter of time before this happens even they have said so
rcookie says():GREAT EXPLANATION OF THE ACTORS AT PLAY..........
rcookie says to jimplants():AGREED JIM...
jimplants says():i have a 500 note that says so
rcookie says():«OPEC» postpones discussion of reducing oil production in central Iraq and Iran frequency
Nov 23, 2016 Vienna / Dubai (Reuters) - Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries plans to Petroleum «OPEC» discuss a cut in oil production by four to 4.5 percent of all its members, except for Libya, Nigeria, next week, but the success of the agreement depends on Iraq, Iran and the approval is highly unlikely could give their full support to the agreement.
She said three sources in OPEC that the group of experts at the Vienna meeting on Tuesday decided to make a recommendation for the ministerial meeting which will be held next week to discuss a proposal for an Algerian production cut this rate.
This would cut the organization reduces the production of more than 1.2 million barrels a day, according to Reuters calculations, based on the production of the organization in October / October and toward the maximum to the expectations of the market.
But the sources also said that representatives of Iran, Iraq and Indonesia have expressed reservations about the level of their participation in the agreement, which would be the first agreement of the organization since 2008 to curb production.
In September / September, the organization agreed to reduce production to between 32.5 million and 33 million barrels a day, in an effort to support prices compared with the latest estimates of OPEC production at 33.8 million barrels a day.
Faces «OPEC» agreement possible setbacks due to Iraq's claim exemption from any restrictions of production, and because of Iran, which wants to increase its supply after the damage produced by the sanctions.
He said Iraqi Foreign Minister Ibrahim al-Jaafari in Budapest yesterday that OPEC should allow the country to continue to raise production without restrictions.
And called for Iran and Iraq under certain conditions to participate in the agreement and according to sources not authorized to speak publicly because of the expert meeting behind closed doors.
The sources said Saudi Arabia and Gulf allies indicated a willingness to cut their production by up to one million barrels per day.
Sources in «OPEC» said that under the proposed Algerian, all Member States, except Nigeria and Libya, will cut oil production by four to 4.5 percent for «OPEC production» estimates in October, in order to reach total production target of 32.5 million barrels a day.
The sources pointed out that this means that Saudi Arabia alone could cut production by up to 500 thousand barrels per day.
And based on «OPEC» estimates of what is known as «secondary sources», which is usually less than the estimates provided by the Member States of the Organization directly.
Sources required of Iran says under the proposed Algeria to cut production by 4.5 percent from about four million barrels per day. But one of the sources said Tehran indicate that they want to cut their production of the highest levels at 4.1 million to 4.2 million barrels per day.
As Iraq is required it is to reduce its production by about 200 thousand barrels per day. Baghdad still consider whether they should cut its production of «OPEC» estimates of levels or from their estimates higher production.
One source said «85 percent of the proposed Gulf OPEC cuts, but Iran is still not in favor of it.»
A senior delegate Almnizh that Russia is a member of the organization is still not agree to cut production but supports the installation. The «This will make it difficult for OPEC alone to restore balance to the market and push prices higher.»
jetset says():500 dinar note is intersting
Canucklady says():I'm here now and awake LOL enough news to have another call it looks like. Sure enjoyed the call last night, appreciated the explanation of the auctions
jetset says to Canucklady():good evening.
loop says():Yes... However there does not appear to be the security features that they have on the larger notes.
Canucklady says to jetset():Hello there Sounds like Maliki is receiving some backlash from the Iraqi people
Canucklady says to jetset():Well deserved
jetset says to loop():thinking it is just a temp stop gap... kind of like what they said on the call yesterday - keep some liquidity
jetset says to Canucklady():i just saw a blurb about that - haven't read on it yet though.
Beeson says to rcookie():Anyone know if Iraq has ones fives tens... etc in lower denoms ?
subgirl says to Beeson():just go to the cbi website and you can see...
loop says(): http://www.cbi.iq/index.php?pid=Banknotes
jetset says():simple answer is that they don't have them in cirulation.
loop says():250 is the smallest as of now.
Beeson says to rcookie():how can they have a one to one... with large notes ?
Beeson says to rcookie():I know they had coins for a while...but people where melting them down and selling the metal...worth more that way 8-)
Beeson says to rcookie():so if they had coins... surly they have low denoms
Beeson says():or maybe the coins are going to be worth one dinar
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