DinarSpeculator Chat With Charlie & Members Part 2 "The Great Chessboard"
Charlie: when the market crashed, it was directly related to a major global credit freeze why? well no one knew how deep any bank was into toxic debt (mortagage backed securities)
in fact, bear stearns had and A2 rating at Moodys - what is A2? Usually the second or third-highest rating that a rating agency assigns to a security or carrier.
This rating signifies that there is a relatively low risk of default because the issuer or carrier is fairly stable.
Investors and policyholders are therefore taking very little risk with these companies.
tudor: ok thanks for that explanation Charlie
Charlie: Jim Cramer, just 36 hours before thecollapse.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9EbPxTm5_s
Mad Money Host Jim Cramer: Don't Be Silly on Bear Stearns! - YouTube
tudor: oh wow Charlie, that sucked for the people
Charlie: ok who cares about Jim Cramer, watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thgAs8eJC3U
Bear Sterns Was Rated AAA – YouTube i will write this in all caps
BY THE TIME YOU REALIZE YOUR BAD INVESTMENT, ITS USUALLY TOO LATE
Charlie: we are talking about the investments most people TRUST
tudor: cant seem to trust anyone
Charlie: EVERYONE WAS LAUGHING AT THE DINAR AND YET THEY LOST THE "BEHINDS" ON BEAR STEARNS AND LEHMAN
tudor: I hope we get the last laugh!
Charlie: us 1 -- them 0
Charlie: i've been all over the board tonight because there is so much on my heart, i want to pour a whole year of research on top of you
tudor: WOW Charlie lol your doing great so far
Charlie: we are dealing with a lot of forces in our world today
b1955: Thank You Charlie
Charlie: we talked some geopolitical, we talked some economics, we talked some energy we are only scratching the surface
tudor: you have given us many things to ponder, thank you
ksdunlap: yes you sure have
Charlie: the chessboards are inter connected but each one is a game of chess onto itself 1st level is media or propaganda
tudor: I dont know how to play chess, how about checkers lol
tudor: please continue
Charlie: media is really checkers the obvious moves
tudor: how true
Charlie: red and black the next level is geopolitical because its not hard to see what governments are doing -- both of these are very much smoke and mirrors but people are involved in earnest
they believe what they believe -- the higher the level, the less its about belief, its about the chess levels above them
3rd level military complex -- just look at any country (worth it's salt) and tell me how much they spend on military
tudor: quite a lot
Charlie: a reminder: this is all very general discussion - we aren't into the meat and potatoes yet
tudor: please serve with gravy
Charlie: i will get very specific and very detailed about everything i'm sharing, that's why i want it public - i love gravy - good gravy
tudor: me too!
Charlie: 4th level – banking - i really can't wait for you to see how this works - they make it seem so complex --- IT'S NOT!
tudor: should be very interesting
Charlie: we are all debtors
tudor: for sure
Charlie: the bible says the debtor is enslaved to the lender
Charlie: thomas jefferson said NO to this our country was founded on principles against this we fell into it -- it's a vortex that works against us everyday another dollar is put into existence
tudor: I would like to break that chain
Charlie: you already have by owning something that isn't a dollar or denominated in the dollar - the dinar
tudor: that makes me feel better Charlie
Charlie: yes, they have dollars in their reserves but the 31 ton purchase of gold is a sign that IRAQ GETS IT!
tudor: now will they give it to us?
Charlie: not so easy
Charlie: CHINA GETS IT TOO vEVEN RUSSIA GETS IT
tudor: they have also been buying gold
Charlie: yes they have. lots of dots to connect here. what we need to see is exactly where to we POSITION ourselves
tudor: its hard Charlie when we are broke, me that is
Charlie: everyone will have different dots based on their circumstances
guardian: U.S. gets it, we have 8,133.5 tonnes of gold
Charlie: WHAT ABOUT THE DINAR CHARLIE???? I CAME HERE TO HERE ABOUT MY DINAR!!!!
tudor: really guardian?
guardian: that is if Fort Knox still has some lol yes, it's on the Internet
Charlie: we will discuss that guardian
tudor: Last I knew Fork knox had zippo
Charlie: if we trust what the bankers want us to believe
guardian: don't you love their secrecy? not
Charlie: guardian, you will be very valuable in this journey because you seek to find information, we will need that
guardian: it's the u.s. people's gold, we want to see it ty Charlie
Charlie: be back in a minute
tudor: she is great at that Charlie
tudor: very interesting chat
ksdunlap: yes it is
b1955: very true tudor
Charlie: again some ask... WHAT ABOUT THE DINAR CHARLIE???? I CAME HERE TO HERE ABOUT MY DINAR!!!!
Charlie: we need to see the forest for the trees we will understand the dinar better in due time
tudor: I hope so lol
Charlie: we need to understand MONEY first
dream u may: hello everyone-sure nice to see chat up and running--thanks Charlie
tudor: got any free samples?
Charlie: lol @ tudor --- good one!
guardian: i see a college graduate in you Charlie, what was your major?
Charlie: i went one year for engineering then dropped out after my father died
guardian: no way
Charlie: a year later my mother
tudor: your very learned Charlie
dream u may: sure miss alot of the folks who were on few years back. maybe they will chime in now and then
guardian: sounds like you majored in political science and economics
Charlie: i was very close to both but God had a purpose i majored in it over the past year and you will all major in it too
guardian: very true lol i can see that
Charlie: we are very close to major economic shifts - we need to be well positioned - i am humbled to have been given this blessing and gift
tudor: thank you for teaching us Charlie
Charlie: people are more important to me than anything - because people are connected to people, especially young people - we create ripples in their lives
tudor: good point and the youth of today are so lost not all but a good amount are
Charlie: you are welcome tudor, i don't feel like i have taught yet but i truly plead for everyone's attention and examination of all things i share going forward
tudor: you are teaching us and we are listening
Charlie: we have to get into the DNA of money we have DINARS but do we really know what a dinar is?
tudor: only that it may be our ticket out of debt
b1955: Yes Thank You Charlie I am learning
Charlie: well its a piece of paper to start but that paper represents something
tudor: a Country
Charlie: that's what we are going to explore the next time what dinars represent i really want to talk about oil but we need to look at dinar first
Charlie: by then we should have a better chat with room for more people
tudor: that would be nice I noticed when we had nine in here it said full is that all this one holds
Charlie: its supposed to hold more
tudor: when dream was still on it said 9 online (full)
Charlie: sneak preview: dinar is currency
tudor: wonder if others tried to get in tonight yes it is
Charlie: post the whole chat on the forum, it might be dizzying but at least they will see it
tudor: ksd have you been working on that?
Charlie: we need to know the difference between currency and money
ksdunlap: yes mam
tudor: thanks hon
Charlie: we are going to go full multimedia too
tudor: Charlie I am sure you will get us straight on that lol
Charlie: podcasts, video, etc
tudor: how will that work?
guardian: that will draw in a crowd
Charlie: we can do live casts on the chat the video will be available for those who miss it
tudor: will it be like a u-tube thing once done?
Charlie: podcasts for when you are on the move
tudor: I am not that computer savy lol oh ok
Charlie: yeah like the you tube thing
tudor: ahh good lol
Charlie: it will be here on the site so just get some popcorn
tudor: love that!!
tudor: this is really going to be THE place for info
Charlie: you really don't know how much i love you guys but i hope to show in the days, weeks and months to come
tudor: we love you too Charlie, you have stuck with us like we have to this site
guardian: what a sweety!
tudor: Charlie, are you going to have set times and days for these chats so we dont miss them?
Charlie: yes its the best way
tudor: yes it is
ksdunlap: thats great
Charlie: at least for the first month or two
tudor: it will also make for bigger crowds
Charlie: 9 is company 10 is a crowd
tudor: is this a series that will go beyond the dinar RV, when and if it happens hahahaha
Charlie: its a series that will help us to see when an rv is ready
tudor: ahhhh gotcha so a short series lol
Charlie: its all connected to the global system is certain ways
tudor: you have a good way of explaining, I am sure we will learn
Charlie: lets just say columbus set sail looking for the far east
tudor: took a wrong turn lol
Charlie: i've been in dinar a very long time and it's taken me to see a lot of things i still have my dinar, but i have a lot more too
tudor: I have dinar and no others should we think about other currencies
Charlie: when i say a lot more i mean understanding
tudor: oh ok knowledge is powerful
Charlie: i want to have more of other things, yes currencies and hard assets
tudor: me too, but funds dictate later on
Charlie: like silver and gold
tudor: agreed, me too
Charlie: remember we are all kings, do you have a light bulb on?
tudor: hahahahaha yes I do and tonight it is a bit brighter!
Charlie: we may actually be rich one day and have much less what a paradox
tudor: yes that could happen
Charlie: we are poor today yet we have much
tudor: but if we keep our faith, we will do ok
Charlie: i started at 30,000 feet so we can see some of the landscape, we need to drop in closer and look at things closer
THANK YOUS & GOODNIGHTS