Dinar Speculator Chat: False Flags & Dollar Confidence Part 1
Charlie: for those who haven't been here, we are doing a series of chats
Charlie: trying to open up the bigger picture of things
Charlie: if you haven't read the previous chats, please do when you can
Charlie: i'm posting in the the global chessboard area and there is a growing wealth of videos being posted along with some interesting articles and info
Charlie: we are here for the dinar but we need to looks outside of iraq for answers
Charlie: we've established the fact that the dinar needs to be de-pegged from the dollar before anything happens
Charlie: because we came into this investment in dollars, and because we live in a dollar economy, our desire is to see the dinar rise against the dollar, or the dollar fall against the dinar or both
Charlie: i chose tonight's topic of false flags because it's pertinent to events the have occurred in the past and those that will happen in the future
Charlie: in the glossary section at the top of the forums, you will see definitions
Charlie: False flag (or black flag) describes covert operations designed to deceive in such a way that the operations appear as though they are being carried out by entities, groups, or nations other than those who actually planned and executed them.
Charlie: Operations carried out during peace-time by civilian organizations, as well as covert government agencies, may by extension be called false flag operations if they seek to hide the real organization behind an operation.
Charlie: Geraint Hughes uses the term to refer to those acts carried out by "military or security force personnel, which are then blamed on terrorists."
Charlie: In its most modern usage, the term may also refer to those events which governments are cognizant of and able to stop but choose to allow to happen (or "stand down"), as a strategy to entangle or prepare the nation for war.
Charlie: Furthermore, the term "false flag terrorism" may even be used in those instances when violence is carried out by groups or organizations which, whether they know it or not, are being supported or controlled by the "victim" nation.
Charlie: deHaven-Smith argues that the terminology has become looser in recent years due to the increasingly complex levels of "duplicity" and "international intrigue" between states.
Charlie: Some argue that false flags are methods used by deep states as a form of deep politics.
Charlie: ok so that's the wiki explanation
Charlie: i posted earlier today false flags are more common than ever for several reasons:
Charlie: 1. technology allows anyone to create a false flag - in the past, it was much more limited because you only had newspapers, tv, and radio
Charlie: 2. geopolitical instability means the propaganda war is on full blast 24/7 globally
Charlie: 3. the stakes are higher than ever now that the dollar and petrodollar is like a wounded soldier, and the jackpot is highest since WWII
Charlie: 4. the financial markets are in need of "cleansing", so much debt, many economies are being cornered and vulnerable to collapse due to the over leverage of just about every asset class their is - PARTICULARLY OIL
Charlie: false flags are hardest to prove the minute they happen unless they are very obvious
Charlie: because there is conspiracy involved in creating a false flag, many times people will dismiss them
Charlie: some people today are labeling certain current events as false flags
Charlie: some think they are test ballons
Charlie: to see how people react
Charlie: When the term "False Flag" is mentioned the common thought is it is to inspire us (the false flag viewer) to jump on somebody's (some politician's) band wagon and start kicking someone else’s butt.
Charlie: Some false flags are ineffective because we are too busy texting and posting selfies so we really don't let the event affect us.
Charlie: Because of so much alternative media, false flags have become cliche'
Charlie: Beware of the false flag that the media, both msm & alternative, grab a hold of like a bull dog, and refuse to let go.
tudor: so true
Charlie: this would be indicative of the end of the 'false flag / trial balloon' phase, and the beginning of the SHTF phase.
Charlie: most msm won't agree with alternative views of events such as 9/11, sandy hook, boston bombing, charlie hebdo (not relation to me)
Charlie: s hits the fan
tudor: ahhhh lol
Charlie: i don't spend time trying to decipher what is or isn't a false flag
Charlie: you could spend your life on it like those who have studied JFK assassination
Charlie: what you MUST DO is examine the affects of the event
Charlie: especially when the msm is telling you that because of this or that, we need to do that or this
Charlie: some call the events of police violence as a trial balloon
Charlie: i think we all agree that our police serve our best interest
tudor: most do yes
guardian: most, some not
Charlie: i think we all believe that police are human beings as well and can make mistakes under pressure
Charlie: i think we all believe that there could be a bad cop in the bunch as well
Charlie: we don't throw all the police under the bus because of one or two incidents
tudor: no we dont
Charlie: take away the police and i really don't want to live here
Charlie: but this scenario is a very powerful scenario
Charlie: in a false flag event, it could be used to condition people to accept certain behaviors as acceptable in response
tudor: brain manipulation
Charlie: 9/11 truthers will say it was a false flag to establish a premise to go to war
Charlie: yes tudor
Charlie: at the end of WWII, one of the greatest prizes were the mind control scientists in germany
Charlie: i will post about this, we are just opening the topic to make us all aware that not everything is what it appears
Charlie: we don't need to go full blown paranoid on every little thing that happens
Charlie: that would be counter productive
tudor: yes it would
Charlie: what you always need to have is an open mind to at least "listen" to things, digest them and do what you think is best for you
Charlie: we all need to engage our own minds, be your own judge of things
Charlie: the more you observe, the more you can add 1+1
Charlie: if you live with your head in the sand you won't see anything
Charlie: while ignorance has been bliss for most of our lives, we don't live in those times anymore
tudor: sad, but true
Charlie: so what does this have to do with my dinars charlie!!!
guardian: everything lol
Charlie: lol, be patient, you know i am painting the landscape and painting grass can be boring
Charlie: as i said, dinars are pegged to the dollar - it will be de-pegged one day
guardian: do you have a target day when this will be at ground level?
guardian: just trying to get an idea
Charlie: sooner than you think
guardian: oh good
Charlie: it will be different for all of us, but you all have to do your own homework
tudor: tomorrow? lol
tudor: just kidding lol
Charlie: the videos on oil in the home page are very important
Charlie: next day
guardian: I will try no guarantees
Charlie: everything i post should at the very least be read or watched once
Charlie: some more than once
Charlie: spotting false flags has to do with understanding possible motives
Charlie: to understand motives you need to understand the players
Charlie: the murder of boris nemtsov in russia is being labeled a false flag
Charlie: the only question, for who
Charlie: the first reaction from msm was that he was murdered by putin because he was putin's enemy
tudor: I remember that yes
Charlie: if you knew the players well enough and the environment, you would say "well that's what they want me to think"
Charlie: if you knew that putin had so much to lose if he actually killed him and nothing to gain, you might say "something's not right here"
tudor: a little logic
Charlie: putin has 80+ approval ratings - to him boris was nothing more than a gnat
The Hawk: Putin didn't kill him.
tudor: hi Hawk
Charlie: the killing of boris can actually create enough provocation in russia to stir a revolution
The Hawk: Thanks Charlie,I was able to get in the room
Charlie: i agree hawk
Jade: And the girlfriend was rushed into hiding
The Hawk: I have my opinion, but NSA is looking
Charlie: but if we knew nothing except what the msm tells us, we would believe the big bad guy putin turned into don corleone for the night
Charlie: what other purposes does this serve?
The Hawk: Naa, he didn't do it. They wanted it to look that way
Charlie: well who here really wants to see our troops in ukraine right now?
tudor: not me
The Hawk: I think we all know that answer
Charlie: who here wants to see us push into a proxy war with russia in the ukraine?
Jade: they are there
Charlie: yes hawk, others do
dream u may: i want our defense weapons given
Charlie: by having an event prior to the headlines that our troops are training soldiers, we can easily justify our presence - rubber stamped by the public
Charlie: gotta get the bad guys
Charlie: ok so i will never say that putin is a choirboy
Charlie: i am not pro-russian i am full blooded american
Charlie: but when something looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and talks like a duck?
Charlie: it's probably a chicken
The Hawk: We have today some fools that are trying to start a war with Russia
Charlie: i agree again hawk
Charlie: you have to follow the money trail on this one and we have talked about the petrodollar
Charlie: so what are we to do?
The Hawk: Problem is that we lost most of our Generals and we are much to weak to win anything.
Charlie: this is what we need to do, we need to research and be informed of what is going on around us
Charlie: i've never met a group like us dinarheads when it comes to research
ksdunlap: We have the BEST
tudor: yes we do
Charlie: your presence here tonight shows what you are made of - and it's high quality
dream u may: as time goes on its showing paton was right
The Hawk: Yes he was
Charlie: so i intro'd false flags, i will post more later so i can move onto what is at the crux of what's going on in the world
dream u may: russia has never abide by any agreements
Charlie: what supports the dollar? what supports the fact that trillions of dollars are in banks and businesses around the world
The Hawk: It should be Gold but it isn't
Charlie: we saw at one point is was gold
Charlie: thats gone
Charlie: we saw the petrodollar introduced and how that carried the expansion of our money supply - with no real backing
The Hawk: Well, maybe not. We may be force to go back to Gold Standards. Then the USA will really be in trouble
Charlie: we see the petrodollar is being threatened and will likely be taken out back and whipped by nations who want a piece of the financial action
Charlie: when i see the US actions around the world, i sense a bit of desperation
Charlie: when you study the financial environment, you will get a sense that confidence in the dollar is vulnerable
otis white: why when you hear good news on the dinar and you look and the news go cold
guardian: we spent so much on the war, bringing our economy down further
guardian: we could bite off our nose to spite our face and spend billions on a military war bringing our economy down even further, weakening it even more, but the exception to the rule imo is ISIS needs to be stopped at all costs, seems Iraq wants the first crack at it though
Charlie: confidence lost on the dollar is a threat to dollars making their way back to the US causing hyperinflation never seen in the history of man
tudor: I agree guardian
dream u may: i agee guardian
Charlie: yes guardian, spending more on war seems like a problem - the problem is that our economy is greatly exposed right now and some believe that a war will cover the economic sins of the past
Charlie: i will post more on that in the Military section
Comments may be made at the end of Part 2 Thank You