_Notes from Hammerman call last night.
sean w richqueen papabear sooner all on call too firstname.lastname@example.org email@example.com for any dinarholders in Sept; get info at email above
[12/21/2011 10:17:53 PM] - M: I was told a specific rate!!!!!!! 16 hrs now WINDOW>rate higher than I've told you
SAFETY: lips sealed
LOOK HARD: 3 am tonight
[12/21/2011 10:18:38 PM] - M: soonerfan: last 3 nites>I told u to sleep; info fr DC/guy wks on RV>6 mos retired>my source>
[12/21/2011 10:19:33 PM] - M: 3 nites ust has had in hands>wkg feverishly, many many mannnnny of them; like a rocket>>>test test test>if it doesn't trigger right>c o sts billllllllllllions
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_[12/21/2011 10:19:58 PM] - M: 10 cst - 4 am fri window>>>my window>can't POSSIBLY GO BEYOND
[12/21/2011 10:20:09 PM] - M: 10 tonight cst till 4am fri
[12/21/2011 10:22:11 PM] - M: listening to him/questioning hard> [sean hannity/interviewing Obama]; Robt said it rv's every day
[12/21/2011 10:22:31 PM] - M: fluctuations in the curr's; yes, that's the definition;
[12/21/2011 10:23:31 PM] - M: u can buy it now; it's tradeable now; so Jedi asked wht does it take to have the rate increase >to get to where it used to be; he said it has to generate a lot of biz
[12/21/2011 10:23:56 PM] - M: solid invstment>when increase? incrs in short time
[12/21/2011 10:24:11 PM] - M: it's rv'ing according to THE PLAN
[12/21/2011 10:25:13 PM] - M: if he correct: goes thru a process>always has to be an out>if our strategy isn't to take place the way we think, I think we need to be braced for another period of time>
[12/21/2011 10:25:50 PM] - M: not normal circumstances of course>but I need to take a mental position and tell me why I"m crazy plz
[12/21/2011 10:26:06 PM] - M: Hammer: sean? to share?
[12/21/2011 10:26:17 PM] - M: SEAN: diff angle on intel; lk for patterns
[12/21/2011 10:26:27 PM] - M: trader for yrs; see patterns everywhere
[12/21/2011 10:26:48 PM] - M: not by rates and dates; ovr last 3 mos>a true pattern started>I gauge by that
[12/21/2011 10:27:25 PM] - M: Thye're not backing off of this; only thing left is the RV; I'm a day trader
[12/21/2011 10:28:16 PM] - M: Scooter: researching 2003 founding docs; housekeeping>tu to BellaGrits
[12/21/2011 10:28:56 PM] - M: tu to audience>>>here's the reasons>not for us, govt, for a few wealthy people; primary: for IRAQI people!!!
[12/21/2011 10:29:39 PM] - M: befr prewar docs>improve lives>incrs purchasing power>$2/day live on!!!
[12/21/2011 10:30:19 PM] - M: Seanw, great comments; I've traded for a decade; researched this for a decade>dpl and all 3 ltr agencies; the whole structural plan>
[12/21/2011 10:31:00 PM] - M: goal: happy consumers; not stay as terrorist country; US wanted to be in that area; in a society that's prosperous; not go to war with them
[12/21/2011 10:31:05 PM] - M: same as with Russia?
[12/21/2011 10:31:47 PM] - M: compelling time: lk at budget: 2009, 10, 11: all have values that come out diff: '09: inner bank to inner bank $1.13; 10: 2.05 gdp going up
[12/21/2011 10:32:02 PM] - M: haven't diversified economy: ag exports lrger than oil exports
[12/21/2011 10:32:34 PM] - M: 22 key pts 12/31: we're taking the ball said IMF & UN>compelling statements
[12/21/2011 10:32:43 PM] - M: IMF & WTO: have to play the game
[12/21/2011 10:33:05 PM] - M: life real hard if they don't follow these agencies
[12/21/2011 10:33:12 PM] - M: plan bigger than Martial plan
[12/21/2011 10:33:19 PM] - M: transformation of whole region
[12/21/2011 10:33:52 PM] - M: world econ: all ovr the place>need 6-8 trill added liquidity: oil, minerals
[12/21/2011 10:34:12 PM] - M: oil : 15-20 there in Iraq: reserves recognized only
[12/21/2011 10:34:27 PM] - M: interesting window betwn now and 31st
[12/21/2011 10:34:46 PM] - M: ministry of planning: lk at things>>>the people!
[12/21/2011 10:35:22 PM] - M: FF: Q: u did a series, Scooter>flow charts you did>big Pictures>"Trifecta"...viewable still?
[12/21/2011 10:35:48 PM] - M: if u want to understand the bigger pix>noone understands it better than Scooter's docs
[12/21/2011 10:36:03 PM] - M: if ur new, u want to lk at his docs>sooo valuable
[12/21/2011 10:36:44 PM] - M: Scooter: honored; part time passion:
[12/21/2011 10:37:10 PM | Edited 10:37:35 PM] - M: [Scooter's material on Breitling's site too; I put his link on Ning in Comments today-with the video]
[12/21/2011 10:38:17 PM] - M: FF: 100's & 100's & 100's of hrs>flow charts easy to read for the layman>info from IMF etc>will give to BellaGrits so you can have
[12/21/2011 10:39:02 PM] - M: Scooter: it's a strange thing>never played into the forex mkt; curr's rv ev sec; algorithyms huge amts of data; a newbie>need to see how it works
[12/21/2011 10:39:28 PM] - M: pet peeve: we as Americans: don't educate our peeps on economics/monetary policy
[12/21/2011 10:40:00 PM] - M: Hammer: tks DEBTARHEEL: lifestream link live and active>expensive system
[12/21/2011 10:40:12 PM] - M: Cap1 in bad traffic>weahter>not coming
[12/21/2011 10:40:26 PM] - M: tennis & purplehelmet both invited>not sure if coming
[12/21/2011 10:40:30 PM] - M: HENRY?
[12/21/2011 10:40:44 PM] - M: Q & A if noone to come on
[12/21/2011 10:44:28 PM] - M: XX: smoke tonight / tomorrow's gonna get much thicker
[12/21/2011 10:44:32 PM] - M: we're there guys
[12/21/2011 10:44:55 PM] - M: sooner's deadline 4 am fri: don't even look beyond that
[12/21/2011 10:45:14 PM] - M: it ain't gonna happen; I'm not callin it>smoke so thick u won't see thru it
[12/21/2011 10:45:26 PM] - M: it's in ust>ditto all that have spoken
[12/21/2011 10:45:38 PM] - M: i been in this on every side a looong time
[12/21/2011 10:46:00 PM] - M: It's HERE GUYS it's here
[12/21/2011 10:46:32 PM] - M: FF: there is Nothing left to say; if u a fly on wall, and hear what we hear>our contacts are sitting in the rooms hearing 1st hand info
[12/21/2011 10:46:38 PM] - M: like soonerfan said
[12/21/2011 10:46:45 PM] - M: there's one piece left>RV
[12/21/2011 10:47:05 PM] - M: Hammer: we just need to RV: it's in ust>1st 2 keys have been turned>only 1 left
[12/21/2011 10:47:19 PM] - M: high high rates we're hearing>bustin ' to hear confirms
[12/21/2011 10:47:28 PM] - M: everyone still hearing the same stuff
[12/21/2011 10:47:37 PM] - M: if we don't see it this week, we'll still see it
[12/21/2011 10:47:52 PM] - M: this week, next wk, the following week>one little thing left
[12/21/2011 10:48:05 PM] - M: most say befr xmas, and mos t most say befr 23rd
[12/21/2011 10:48:10 PM] - M: not go into dates tonight
[12/21/2011 10:48:13 PM] - M: ready to pop
[12/21/2011 10:48:52 PM] - M: Henry: confirm all that's been said; pressure on : secrty Panetta>
[12/21/2011 10:48:56 PM] - M: pressure on>
[12/21/2011 10:49:20 PM] - M: on serious move forward>pre xmas push>not about US>about global econ to have solution before 2012
[12/21/2011 10:49:31 PM] - M: RichQueen:
[12/21/2011 10:49:56 PM] - M: (has a cold) wallet about to feel reeeeeeeeeeel good; agree with evyone
[12/21/2011 10:50:06 PM] - M: tks for inviting; I'll answer questions
[12/21/2011 10:50:26 PM] - M: PapaBear? can u hear me? YES: lrgest transfer of wealth in history
[12/21/2011 10:50:43 PM] - M: asset based curr acrs world; rv closer than anyone has any idea whhhhatsoever
[12/21/2011 10:50:56 PM] - M: right on top of us; extremely plsd; lk at irs forms
[12/21/2011 10:51:47 PM] - M: st lockdowns; lk at contractors to move incourntry to start; $ finding to help euro; watch mkts ; curr fluctuate daily; ready to see rv on iraqi dinar but also on 150 curr's; much lrgr than Iraqi dinar!!!!!!!!!
[12/21/2011 10:52:15 PM] - M: keep open mind and heart>stay grounded>negotiate at banks>try cbi rate. have a plan>stick with it>pay taxes
[12/21/2011 10:52:38 PM] - M: watc h out for penal 8938 penalties>> $10K for 3 mos up to $50K; go with system
[12/21/2011 10:53:13 PM] - M: smoke>global settlements/prosperity programs> world get to be a lot bigger place; lots will piss you off>will get a loooot better
[12/21/2011 10:53:52 PM] - M: MrDel can't come, nor shamangirl
[12/21/2011 10:54:48 PM] - M: FreewayBill: questions: cpl: for Henry: go ahead: if u listened last nite: we confirmed un sanctions to be reinstated on 12/23rd if rv not done?
[12/21/2011 10:55:15 PM] - M: Henry: clarify: if lk at printed records>O gave exit date for troops>sanctions tied to troops leaving
[12/21/2011 10:55:23 PM] - M: those sanctions removed;
[12/21/2011 10:55:29 PM] - M: will be reapplied if they don't rv
[12/21/2011 10:55:55 PM] - M: FwayBill: Iraq needs to complete so that doesn't happen
[12/21/2011 10:56:06 PM] - M: Henry : full court press is on as we speak
[12/21/2011 10:56:59 PM] - M: FBill: my texts full; banks say we're done; peeps I wk w/ w/ high political contacts say we're done; long call overseas: they're certain we're done; contacts in US/banks say same; same evrywhere as here tonight; not same sources
[12/21/2011 10:57:17 PM] - M: good shape>relax>know it's coming>hand over to the Lord>patient
[12/21/2011 10:57:53 PM] - M: Hamer: MrWisdom trying to get on
[12/21/2011 10:58:27 PM] - M: Bella: excited: positive; hope it comes; happy
[12/21/2011 10:58:35 PM] - M: just wanna sleep more than 3 hrs
[12/21/2011 10:58:52 PM] - M: H: all know: speakers: if they get 4 hrs, that's a big night
[12/21/2011 11:00:15 PM] - M: FF: last pt: questions thrown out re: rates: people say high is unrealistic>we're moving into new monetary sys backed by assets>u don't understand how much wealth in Iraq: oil, gold etc>entire cities covered by diamonds cause that's how much money they have; streets paved with gold
[12/21/2011 11:00:28 PM] - M: over the top stuff to come becuz of the amt of wealth
[12/21/2011 11:00:44 PM] - M: the high rates are very REALISTIC; there's a reason for it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12/21/2011 11:00:49 PM] - M: wahoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[12/21/2011 11:01:06 PM] - M: H: discovery channel: multiply wealth in Dubai by 20
[12/21/2011 11:01:30 PM] - M: Georgiaboy: ???
[12/21/2011 11:01:38 PM] - M: Q & A: state ur screename:
[12/21/2011 11:01:45 PM] - M: phone , skype, net link?
[12/21/2011 11:01:57 PM] - M: also direct question to a certain speaker/guest
[12/21/2011 11:02:28 PM] - M: short / concise Q's; be ready
[12/21/2011 11:03:02 PM] - M: [my line is open again; someone muted me AGAIN]
[12/21/2011 11:03:21 PM] - M: Caller : u told me last week didn't happen; why
[12/21/2011 11:03:41 PM] - M: FF: I was shielded fr something that needed to be dealt with so world stay safe
[12/21/2011 11:04:00 PM] - M: a bigger issue last week; trust my guy>he's very involved; things taken care of and we're moving on
[12/21/2011 11:04:40 PM] - M: info hasn't changed; supposed to go last week, the wk before and sev times before that; have to get it right; if not, catastrophic; have to deal with things fast and right
[12/21/2011 11:04:45 PM] - M: trust w/ where we're at
[12/21/2011 11:05:01 PM] - M: * I'm to go to sign my house away tomorrow
[12/21/2011 11:05:07 PM] - M: FF: pray and give to God
[12/21/2011 11:05:19 PM] - M: * I've been doin that for 6 mos.
[12/21/2011 11:05:26 PM] - M: H: wait tilll Fri
[12/21/2011 11:06:00 PM] - M: Adele: wireless: 4859: positive tonight: one thing Shabs said that he wldn't do till full goi, and spread of power with Erbil...in place?
[12/21/2011 11:06:21 PM] - M: Henry? talked about last nite; official anncmnt with release of both
[12/21/2011 11:07:18 PM] - M: [sorry, interruption]
[12/21/2011 11:08:15 PM] - M: [Wednesday, December 21, 2011 11:07PM TEE:
============================= 6:29 PM [poppy3] just came in the door and have some news but can't share details but will give what i can. Rich friends as all of you know i have been saying for two weeks now that i just didn’t see any date beyond the 15th that had any significance than any other before th1st. Today i got two calls within 30min of one another and they convinced me that the possibility of a rv before jan 1 is not just possible but probable. I wish i could share this source but i just can't this time. But i think you guys know me well enough to know i wouldn’t say this if i wasn’t convinced it is as solid info as anyone can give. Poppy3
[12/21/2011 11:08:23 PM] - M: ********************************************
[12/21/2011 11:09:06 PM] - M: Caller: omg: machine gun of questions
[12/21/2011 11:09:24 PM] - M: Hammer: >2.50 pegged to usd
[12/21/2011 11:09:36 PM] - M: cbi pegged to gbp
[12/21/2011 11:09:51 PM] - M: * confused,
[12/21/2011 11:11:28 PM] - M: FBill: 1) on cbi peggd to gbp; when rate on forex to ur bank it'll be in usd>u'll see cbi rate, but you'll deal in usd at banks>plenty of info on equation; when u go to bank>they'll have one rate not equal to cbi>be prepared to negotiate>ready to wal k out>
[12/21/2011 11:12:35 PM] - M: this is so much more money: 100K dinar @ rate>more money than anyone's ever had; bank says cbi is X and we'll give u X minus 2>u might be tempted to take; u cld leave so muhc on table by being hurried to be rich
[12/21/2011 11:13:35 PM] - M: Scooter: rate one common denominator; open s on Sun aftr (New Zealand first); rate in UK>>>may be pegged to gbp>same value as in US>same as in all countries>
[12/21/2011 11:14:09 PM] - M: the value is still the same; critical: go to bank>u own the WHALE>BE PREPARED TO WALK>SHOP "EM
[12/21/2011 11:14:17 PM] - M: big boys have not even come out
[12/21/2011 11:14:23 PM] - M: they want that money in their hands
[12/21/2011 11:14:45 PM] - M: all instantaneous>
[12/21/2011 11:15:05 PM] - M: that value the same thruout the world>common denominator=sdr
[12/21/2011 11:15:21 PM] - M: if it's us and the rubie us and the gbp
[12/21/2011 11:15:44 PM] - M: H: Sean scooter soonerfan: Jump in; lost _______
[12/21/2011 11:15:53 PM] - M: RichQ, PBear jump in
[12/21/2011 11:16:25 PM] - M: Caller: bigdog55; ust: there were there, then out, back in again: what's purpose
[12/21/2011 11:16:41 PM] - M: RQueen: turn ing the wheels: Inputting codes to release to banks
[12/21/2011 11:17:52 PM] - M: Scooter: sittin g in ust accts: ev dollar controlled; we have dominion ovr I; if chptr7 didn't cover them; us would open a can of worms and wld have to pay 100 billion dollars; only infrastructure that can control is the U.S.; massive spider
[12/21/2011 11:18:14 PM] - M: integrate all $ thru accts; normal trade day: 4 trill; 25bill on nyse
[12/21/2011 11:18:28 PM] - M: Iraq: 10 trill will move in one millisecond
[12/21/2011 11:19:10 PM] - M: XXX: bottom line; ust in /out/in: in beginning load codes>transfer/done; now in to stand ready / monitor if any glitches>all codes loaded
[12/21/2011 11:20:05 PM] - M: not as many people in ust guarding now as when loading; key peeps there in case something happens; when sent back to ust the final time>so ust can release to our banks; we're the host; we monitor to help fix probs
[12/21/2011 11:20:46 PM] - M: H : dong $.05 = $.13 >>>
[12/21/2011 11:21:02 PM] - M: pound or dollar?
[12/21/2011 11:21:16 PM] - M: Caller; nobbie: comment / Q for Scooter:
[12/21/2011 11:21:44 PM] - M: tk u for diligence/efforts; trifecta now in my garage>>>
[12/21/2011 11:22:09 PM] - M: I'm a little in forex; "Dad's Legacy" book>
[12/21/2011 11:22:19 PM] - M: try to make parttime job
[12/21/2011 11:22:25 PM] - M: Scooter: addicting
[12/21/2011 11:22:31 PM] - M: * appreciate u
[12/21/2011 11:22:51 PM] - M: S: tk u for ur work over there; u deserve the kudos for being in Iraq
[12/21/2011 11:23:21 PM] - M: Adele/board: 3082: steffan Illinois: new irs addendum to tax law>recv in the mail or till 4/15
[12/21/2011 11:24:09 PM] - M: ray: trust atty work with and sharp cpa's: piss a lot of lpeople off: been around for a bill ion yrs>changing a few things irs.gov 8938 enter and look at it
[12/21/2011 11:24:30 PM] - M: "what's the big deal" it says if u have property / bank acct in anthr country , they want to know
[12/21/2011 11:24:44 PM] - M: don't need to file unless u have >100K dinars
[12/21/2011 11:25:00 PM] - M: if don't have a for bank acct, and no foreign asset>it's irrelevant
[12/21/2011 11:25:25 PM] - M: plz go lk at it yrself, call ur cpa
[12/21/2011 11:25:29 PM] - M: I"m freaking out
[12/21/2011 11:25:40 PM] - M: atty / cpa can't believe>
[12/21/2011 11:26:00 PM] - M: there's a Q on ur tax return: do u have foreign bank acct? u better say yes
[12/21/2011 11:26:15 PM] - M: 99.9% of u it's irrelevant> unless ur cpa tells u
[12/21/2011 11:26:25 PM] - M: don't go there; don't need to stir up trouble
[12/21/2011 11:26:58 PM] - M: Hammer: ur saying, this yr, befor I have to worry, I"d need to have bought 90 mil dinar
[12/21/2011 11:27:26 PM] - M: if u own a foreign asset>then>they ask
[12/21/2011 11:27:31 PM] - M: don't worry about it
[12/21/2011 11:28:26 PM] - M: * for FF or Scooter: in Iraq, Biden there>working thru the Hashemi thing>ltrs saying politicians try ing to keep econ fr going forward; need govt seated/anncd>>>need to work thru before forward with RV?
[12/21/2011 11:28:33 PM] - M: Scooter: technically, NO
[12/21/2011 11:28:46 PM] - M: Hammer: answers brief>many callers
[12/21/2011 11:29:22 PM] - M: FF: NO, don't need seated to rV; shabs can rv; ideally goi/erbil>a lot smoke; respect Phoenix>but all needed to be done is done
[12/21/2011 11:30:54 PM] - M: Scooter: duplicate: 11 incidences where structurally changes during March elections 2010 to occur; cld do any moment; political disaster>so play politics>in phase of politics, not technical>diff meanings of sovereignty>vp says sovereign; can say they were sov. in '03; concerns / chptr 7; they can make the rules any way they want
[12/21/2011 11:31:17 PM] - M: U.S. controls how this plays out; we hold their cards; we hold their money>political situation
[12/21/2011 11:32:15 PM] - M: Caller: artmeister: on Okie's site: pay no attn to it; offshore trusts mostly>
[12/21/2011 11:32:39 PM] - M: 4938>>>doesn't exist ; 15% flat tax?
[12/21/2011 11:32:46 PM] - M: Ray: we'd know if it was real
[12/21/2011 11:32:54 PM] - M: wld be all over the news
[12/21/2011 11:33:00 PM] - M: so 15/35 still
[12/21/2011 11:33:06 PM] - M: no time to play games
[12/21/2011 11:33:17 PM] - M: Hammer : go to tax atty>first visit is free
[12/21/2011 11:33:40 PM] - M: RQueen: find a tax accountant that's invstd in dinar: they up to date in their research; not all up to speed
[12/21/2011 11:33:43 PM] - M: in ur area
[12/21/2011 11:34:17 PM] - M: Caller: radar/Atlanta: squirmishes in Iraq? rumor issue 20K more troops back for security?
[12/21/2011 11:35:16 PM] - M: FF: troops negotiated to go back; not due to issues; to maintain order>monitoring there now; Panetta still there; can negotiate immediately; don't assume worse case scenario: more troops to maintain
[12/21/2011 11:35:37 PM] - M: * troops that came back 30K; communicated w/ u re: dinar?
[12/21/2011 11:36:12 PM] - M: Hammer: 2 sons in marine corps: one still in Iraq: cross border for 1 hr: told me this a.m.>digital screens flashing on I dinar
[12/21/2011 11:37:03 PM] - M: Caller: 0694: Donna R: raised rates?
[12/21/2011 11:37:21 PM] - M: H: ev bank will try their best to give you the least money; get with a group
[12/21/2011 11:37:38 PM] - M: contact me; we're getting a group: we'll make sure you're protected
[12/21/2011 11:37:48 PM] - M: firstname.lastname@example.org
[12/21/2011 11:38:10 PM] - M: they'll try to get in ur pkt; be strong and get wht u can get
[12/21/2011 11:38:47 PM] - M: RichQueen: banks use depositor's money to make themselves $; u r one of the owner's of that bank
[12/21/2011 11:39:12 PM] - M: YOU ARE GIVING THEM MONEY; MAKE THEM FIGHT OVER YOU AND WHO GETS THE PRIVILEDGE OF WORKING WITH UR MONEY
[12/21/2011 11:39:28 PM] - M: YOU"RE IN CONTROL
[12/21/2011 11:40:08 PM] - M: Caller: Pamela; advised to cash out a small bill to set up LLC's/Trusts
[12/21/2011 11:40:30 PM] - M: Ray: if u have a 5K note>a 25K note won't freak 'em out
[12/21/2011 11:40:32 PM] Tee: =============================================
10:37 PM [jaybird] jonnywg is it going to be a flat tax
[jonnywg] jaybird released tomorrow.
[12/21/2011 11:41:15 PM] - M: * same as my small bills?
Ray: cash out just enough to get legal...trusts, then put in trust, then pay out bills
[12/21/2011 11:41:39 PM] - M: use personal to pay off; use trust to purchase new stuff
[12/21/2011 11:42:22 PM] - M: H: trust atty's: told me I may not need a trust: find out and talk to trust atty's to find out if it's for you
[12/21/2011 11:42:28 PM] - M: FF: what's right for you
[12/21/2011 11:42:56 PM] - M: Ray: if 5 mill in bank, hard time to say u wouldn't need a trust
[12/21/2011 11:43:10 PM] - M: people will find ways to sue you
[12/21/2011 11:43:23 PM] - M: wht's justification for not being prottected?
[12/21/2011 11:43:53 PM] - M: * if big 4 in trouble, apprehension using them...credit unions?
[12/21/2011 11:44:13 PM] - M: H: me & FwayBill wkg with some of those that aren't big 4; not Citibank/BOA
[12/21/2011 11:44:26 PM] - M: ur choice>wht best fits u; wht ur heart tells u
[12/21/2011 11:45:00 PM] - M: Ray: personal/trust acct>over $250K >TAG ACCT>FDIC INS>NON INT bearing> TAG will insure it
[12/21/2011 11:45:11 PM] - M: most credit unions don't want lrg or trust accts
[12/21/2011 11:45:29 PM] - M: RQueeen: don't put all eggs in one basket; go into sev accts
[12/21/2011 11:45:52 PM] - M: Ray: FDIC: they insure the same amt whether one bank or several
[12/21/2011 11:46:05 PM] - M: dinars into trust; trust pay taxes on it
[12/21/2011 11:46:22 PM] - M: Suisse: no bank failures; US many bank failures
[12/21/2011 11:49:03 PM] - M: Caller:
H: Shabs ready>BIS & IMF turned keys; he sent to U.S.; we don't know why;
[12/21/2011 11:49:15 PM] - M: technical issues the few times he tried to make it happen
[12/21/2011 11:49:27 PM] - M: why this time?? I don't think we know why
[12/21/2011 11:49:48 PM] - M: * S's to give the go ahead, or peeps wkg to get done
[12/21/2011 11:50:10 PM] - M: H: curr's rv ever y millisec/day; 130 curr's so they're all bouncing around
[12/21/2011 11:50:17 PM] - M: keep all rates in the right range
[12/21/2011 11:50:29 PM] - M: in meantime, Shabs like nuclear bomb key>
[12/21/2011 11:50:49 PM] - M: he'll tell ust to go>if evrything on the line in a certain window
[12/21/2011 11:50:57 PM] - M: * r we at that point?
[12/21/2011 11:51:12 PM] - M: H: yes, waiting for S to say go; bis & imf he's told to go
[12/21/2011 11:51:20 PM] - M: S to tell ust to go
[12/21/2011 11:52:12 PM] - M: Caller: dinobear: wish u happy holiday>2 parts; like most: trade in a 25K note; PP's u see coming in before/aftr RV?
[12/21/2011 11:52:27 PM] - M: RQueen: simultaneously
[12/21/2011 11:52:30 PM] - M: pretty much
[12/21/2011 11:52:51 PM | Edited 11:53:21 PM] - M: * if cashing in a note, u may not have bargaining power
[12/21/2011 11:53:13 PM] - M: they stop selling dinars >>>they tell u they can bring them back
[12/21/2011 11:53:46 PM] - M: XXX: you can tell them you're coming back with a big load in 2 wks
[12/21/2011 11:53:57 PM] - M: so bargain with the little note
[12/21/2011 11:54:17 PM] - M: H: doooooo tell them what u have, when u r going in with the little note; be honest with the bank
[12/21/2011 11:54:29 PM] - M: * do u think we'll have a happy new yr
[12/21/2011 11:54:34 PM] - M: XXX: happy xmas
[12/21/2011 11:54:49 PM] - M: H: smilin' big; may not be in pocket
[12/21/2011 11:54:58 PM] - M: * diff in taxes 2011/12;
[12/21/2011 11:55:08 PM] - M: FF: politicians have a lot of dinar
[12/21/2011 11:55:36 PM] - M: if before xmas; cash out on 12/27>incentives to cash out in 2011>higher rates>watch for
[12/21/2011 11:56:41 PM] - M: Caller: PBear: PP's/WGS: in near future: IRS/FedRes go away?
[12/21/2011 11:57:17 PM] - M: PB: lkg for simult rv/pkgs; early as tom, or 2-3 days; on top of us
[12/21/2011 11:57:29 PM] - M: RQueen: fedres/irs; massive changes
[12/21/2011 11:57:45 PM] - M: maaaaaaaaaasive chges fr evrything>evything we've always thought
[12/21/2011 11:58:10 PM] - M: irs certain functions 1 yr; irs cease to function the way we know it; aftr 1 yr>we have an idea>don't really know
[12/21/2011 11:59:17 PM] - M: Caller: carmen/ptr; gold/silver>aftr rv; up/down?
[12/21/2011 11:59:23 PM] - M: Georgiaboy???
[12/21/2011 11:59:32 PM] - M: Papa? or other???
[12:00:03 AM] - M: Ray: historically: strengthening of usd: gold inversely prop goes down when dollar goes up
[12:00:49 AM] - M: when rv>dollar strong>predict a fall in gold/silver>not overnight/not plummet>2-3 mos.>purchase us gold/silver eagles/keep myself>hedge against chaos imo
[12:01:09 AM] - M: Hamer: Georgiaboy: drop100 dollars in first 2-3 days
[12:01:20 AM] - M: PBear: let prof handle gold / silver
[12:01:28 AM] - M: get in too heavy>cost u money
[12:01:37 AM] - M: movg toward s owning coins>>
[12:01:57 AM] - M: ____ , _____, Eagles>>howlarge a depth??
[12:02:23 AM] - M: * 1%??? if moving $??
[12:02:36 AM] - M: RQ: Am Eagles: diff tax than foreign
[12:02:42 AM] - M: Ray: and bullion too
[12:03:47 AM] - M: Caller: Q: Scooter: in your opinion "soonerfan", in hands of ust?? lkg for M's anncmnt: Erbil; r we already there? ust to get nos.; How mid of nite
[12:05:12 AM] - M: Scooter: at 1st: benchmarks: 2005: congrees/imf/wb / "other": HCL nailed down; '07>proforma>HCL> Kurds>>>met benchmarks<>they can do anything they want/anytime; imo, prob not with Iraq>prob w/ partner nations>
[12:05:34 AM] - M: * or O elections
[12:06:48 AM] - M: S: Bush plan: primary & 2ndary nations; everyone in agrment, then bam, new admin>every RV>normally only a few people control RV; in this :: no internet prior; now private citizens involved>quickly>lkg at nos.>how do we do this??? splitting nos. up>and an election>>>>
[12:07:07 AM] - M: the nos. changed when new admin; then they found out 6 mill of us
[12:07:11 AM] - M: banks want in
[12:07:30 AM] - M: RQ said: fractional res banking>deposit $100K and make lots more
[12:08:06 AM] - M: banks found out we hold>equation changes>and downstream effects>4-6 mos>>>this profitable for alllllllll
[12:08:23 AM] - M: * 14-16 Shabssaid:
[12:08:38 AM] - M: all except goi/erbil; I think we're on the bird
[12:08:52 AM] - M: Scooter: these banks>u see more chaos>a good thing
[12:09:51 AM] - M: Caller: bigall66/ptr: print the recording?
[12:10:16 AM] - M: Hammer, saw on jonny: give rates of 9.36 - 9.__>>>
[12:10:22 AM] - M: H: yes higher a little
[12:10:29 AM] - M: prob w/ recording last nite
[12:10:43 AM] - M: server crashed: couldn't get the replay nos.; we'll have after the call
[12:11:03 AM] - M: u'll be plzed: rates: .35 more than last rate u said; where recording posted
[12:11:17 AM] - M: many X's all talk same time>hard to hear
[12:11:29 AM] - M: you step on voices; plz I don't mean to offend
[12:11:58 AM] - M: H: new people; I try; hard to manage with this many speakers; to help u more; not burnt on hearing the same people over and over
[12:12:09 AM] - M: my 5th call
[12:12:27 AM] - M: [what was that top rate the caller stated: ]
[12:13:03 AM] - M: MIG, PD, at PTR rates posted: at OOM, GET TEAM>shoutout for all great sites, the SEntinel >>tk u for letting us advertise on ur sites
[12:13:37 AM] - M: Bella: ticket to freeconf: they got it: 712-432-1085, P: 861634#
[12:14:22 AM] dt -: + $9.00 I believe.
[12:14:28 AM] - M:
Last night's Hammer Call: 712-432-1085, P: 861634#
[12:14:55 AM] - M:
Caller: asked about cbi rate; update at 3 am est
[12:15:10 AM] - M: * heard that, so is cbi first?
[12:15:47 AM] - M: Hammer: imo; won't see cbi/forex for 4-14 days; if it shows on cbi/forex on back screens of financial institutions
[12:15:59 AM] - M: soonerfan: can't believe u said that
[12:16:09 AM] - M: it absolutely will show on banks first
[12:16:11 AM] - M: common
[12:16:13 AM] - M: sense
[12:16:18 AM] - M: not rocket science
[12:16:26 AM] - M: OBAMA wants $ in U.S.
[12:16:34 AM] - M: so he wants you to come to banks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:16:45 AM] - M: so ust gets money
[12:16:59 AM] - M: dealers' $ goes to Iraq>so us. doesn't benefit
[12:17:21 AM] - M: I agree 100% ; will appear on banks 1,2, 3, 2 wks before cbi/forex
[12:17:38 AM] - M: H: soonerfan never talked about this EEEEEEEEVER
[12:17:54 AM] - M: FF: agree; reason why: cbi updates: imo, no see there;
[12:18:10 AM] - M: H: waste of time to look there: imo; I'd bet
[12:18:14 AM] - M: won't see it there
[12:18:32 AM] - M: XX: I'll up that to 1 mil
[12:18:44 AM] - M: Caller: RQ>>>missed it
[12:19:00 AM] - M: [what did he say????????????????]
[12:19:30 AM] - M: Caller: hard time believing drama in I can hold back entire economy
[12:19:45 AM] - M: RQ: yes
[12:20:04 AM] dt -: something about a PP called Treasure Gate, I believe... will it be ok after the death of someone named Buckley, I believe. and her answer was YES.
[12:20:11 AM] - M: Scooter: agree; that much outside forces to make it happen, can't see how it can't happen soon
[12:20:19 AM] - M: TKS DT
[12:20:31 AM] Tee: 11:18 PM [PIF] [jonnywg] news flash extra workers called in to process data. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, don't ask where................................. they are trying folks............. hopefully by or before
Friday [DrRod] jonnywg Thanks for your answer... I know there is much you can't say, most of us accept your sincere loyalty to your sources... BUT, can you tell us if we will see this thing RV before or on DEC 23rd? Yes, or NO?
[jonnywg] DrRod yes
[jaybird] jonnywg is it going to be a flat tax
[jonnywg] jaybird released tomorrow
[jonnywg] fyi more than one agency has brought in extra crews
[12:20:34 AM] dt -: I'm totally not familiar with that so I probably don't have those names right.
[12:20:57 AM] - M: Scooter: followed for 14 yrs, sorry RQ that I stepped on u
[12:21:00 AM] dt -:
[12:21:21 AM] - M: Shaman girl: yes: didn't hear: buckley,tommy:
[12:21:40 AM] - M: S: he passed last yr: future to Treasury Gate?
[12:22:05 AM] - M: SGirl: extensions of main programs>all contactd will be; trustees/bankers; not let go of database
[12:22:20 AM] - M: PB: trustees apptd befr he killed himself
[12:22:25 AM] - M: he apptd
[12:24:21 AM] - M: Caller: woman; tu tu tu...apprct; Q: we wonder gifting ltrs: if we gift to friends & family, they pay tax on current value?
[12:25:44 AM] - M: Ray: if give dinar, pre RV >gifting simple: I gave this much dinar, sign , date; give cost basis >if give 100K dinar, and u paid $100>if worth 1/2 mil they have a tax problem; if u give more than $13K u (950) pay taxes
[12:26:17 AM] - M: pre RV cost is all they can go after (publication 950)
[12:26:42 AM] - M: RQ: gift ltr notarized; if u say 1/18 I gift then notarize after rv, is that a problem
[12:26:45 AM] - M: Ray: yes
[12:26:53 AM] - M: not a problem unless audited
[12:27:10 AM] - M: if 2 people agree, then they won't think ur trying to defraud them
[12:27:53 AM] - M: FBill: simple: ckd this out: sent email to my kids and they respond that they received the dinar>u have track record and date>keeps u fr notarizing
[12:28:11 AM] - M: on other end: they still have to pay taxes when cash in
[12:28:16 AM] - M: on post RV rate
[12:28:37 AM] - M: short/term long term: someone has to pay taxes
[12:28:50 AM] - M: u shift tax burden to them>they can put in a trust
[12:29:01 AM] - M: 100K dinar >give to church
[12:29:12 AM] - M: at $5 rate>they will nvr pay tax on it
[12:29:54 AM] - M: Caller: blacktop/Missouri
[12:31:24 AM] - M: 6 mill dinarholders?
[12:31:39 AM] - M: how much does the avg holder hold?
[12:31:46 AM] - M: 1-2 mill
[12:32:07 AM] - M: 60-65% hold < 500K in hand???
[12:32:11 AM] - M: guessing
[12:33:03 AM] - M: many have less than 100K
[12:33:23 AM] - M: Caller: rv at any amt? how we know RI any amt? how know diff
[12:33:40 AM] - M: Hammer: anything around $2.70=RI; >$2.82=RV imo
[12:33:47 AM] - M: XXX : agree
[12:33:54 AM] - M: YYY: no ri
[12:34:00 AM] - M: 3.41 + RV
[12:34:03 AM] - M: look at budget
[12:34:13 AM] - M: * we just speculating?
[12:34:23 AM] - M: FF: 2-4 safe to say RI
[12:34:26 AM] - M: debate
[12:34:37 AM] - M: if $4+ definitely an RV
[12:35:19 AM] - M: 20% inflation
[12:35:38 AM] - M: 2 1/2 mos ago that flew out the window
[12:36:07 AM] - M: Scooter: Ri went out with bobby socks
[12:37:21 AM] - M: * TAG same as CDARS?? same thing?
[12:37:50 AM] - M: Ray: http://CDARS.com TAG is totally diff>FDIC transactional acct guarantee
[12:37:58 AM] - M: * spec power of appointment?
[12:38:13 AM] - M: trust atty in Utah says better than other trusts
[12:38:54 AM] - M: pkgs to the banks>posted on site? to pick and chose?
[12:39:13 AM] - M: H: bill will step in; email me>we'll be in touch; we don't own a site>they may let us
[12:39:33 AM] - M: FreewayBill: depends on whr u r; doesn't matter whr ur money is
[12:39:50 AM] - M: best deal u'll go wherever; walk around money local
[12:40:15 AM] - M: pkgs>>>Hammer working; jonny, ptr has event sanfran there available
[12:40:27 AM] - M: noone make money off putting groups togthr
[12:40:39 AM] - M: we want evryone to get the strength in nos.
[12:40:57 AM] - M: huge nos. to get best leverage
[12:41:09 AM] - M: H: betwn me and FBill 5-6K people
[12:41:19 AM] - M: Debtarheel: 1500 people
[12:41:39 AM] - M: trying to help>massive effort; will do more than one bank
[12:41:53 AM] - M: good a rate as any one if not better; jonny's good>
[12:42:09 AM] - M: not seettle for less than cbi rate +; high int plans>>
[12:42:22 AM] - M: perks and accts/inter 8-12%
[12:42:33 AM] - M: massive massive perks>leave money in these banks
[12:42:51 AM] - M: XXX: Hammer's stats: 80% hold < 1 mill
[12:43:08 AM] - M: we want 300K people to get equal treatment>if we go as a group
[12:43:43 AM] - M: we're not going into an invtment with anyone; but with a prenegotiated program or u be prepared to walk if the bank doesn't give u good stuff
[12:43:56 AM] - M: * the text msg?? u send them; I'm w/ dinar alert
[12:44:05 AM] - M: H: sever al do that; we don't do that
[12:44:33 AM] - M: I have 60 people that I will text; mass scale>no>told people to contact me 10 hrs after RV
[12:44:59 AM] - M: * WF??
[12:45:24 AM] - M: H: I've talk ed to them; lrgr banks harder to deal with; easier to get too; deep with govt pockets/linings
[12:45:36 AM] - M: talked w/ chase; never go into BOA>me
[12:47:28 AM] - M: ShamanGirl: new banking when RV>basel III; if accts at banks>ur established>easier;
[12:47:37 AM] - M: WF 6th strongest in U.S.
[12:48:05 AM] - M: I think safer: treasury depositories now>aftr RV
[12:48:23 AM] - M: becuz of the derivatives; it'll change; don't think probs will continue
[12:48:46 AM] - M: XXX: original Q ontrust: familiar with it: OJ trust: very v v solid
[12:49:03 AM] - M: H: I knew I loved new people (soonerfan)
[12:49:06 AM] - M: Caller:
[12:49:49 AM] - M: dong? negotiating with banks?
[12:50:07 AM] - M: H: I have 3X dong/dinar; no I talked to Bob Getz>he's holding for a yr
[12:50:36 AM] - M: my dong is my prepare pkg>bank>cash in>not worry about negotiating>always there to be my startup money>
[12:50:45 AM] - M: doubt negotiating will happen
[12:51:09 AM] - M: some say it'll go up in a yr
[12:51:17 AM] - M: but I'm not going to fiddle around
[12:51:41 AM] - M: nvrsee below $.03
[12:51:52 AM] - M: bangkok: lost ocntact there
[12:52:01 AM] - M: $.05 - $.13 last I heard
[12:52:30 AM] - M: RQ: SGIRL: thoughts on dong? plz share
[12:52:57 AM] - M: SGirl: others share the same: cameraman said, dong already established and being traded;
[12:53:12 AM] - M: XXX: simple; in 15 mins at bank >no world curr's involved
[12:54:19 AM] - M: Caller : banks; certified planner 20 yrs; in ins>they lkd at gold standard
[12:54:41 AM] - M: A Invest and Weiss service>downgraded A Invest
[12:55:03 AM] - M: www.weisswatchdog.com any like that, u want to know how they rate
[12:55:22 AM] - M: if u use free service>they alert u to changes in any special co.
[12:55:29 AM] - M: helpful service
[12:55:47 AM] - M: RQ: all bets off; rules about to change
[12:57:06 AM] - M: will not be participating after RV in these calls
[12:57:31 AM] - M: SGirl : American Express cash in??
[12:57:42 AM] - M: Hammer: no answer for that; FBill?
[12:57:53 AM] - M: FB: attempts to contact them; good idea
[12:58:17 AM] - M: esp now>probably approachable
[12:58:30 AM] - M: mor e now than ever in history
[12:58:44 AM] - M: SG: maybe a card / credit line against ur money
[12:58:55 AM] - M: FB: black crd cld be offered evrybody
[12:59:17 AM] - M: travelling/using big purchases>talked to bank too; nice if one major card
[12:59:40 AM] - M: if walk in found a unbelieveable buy>$80K>debit can't handle>black crd would
[12:59:46 AM] - M: working on that
[1:00:01 AM] - M: Caller:
[1:01:24 AM] - M: backstage; hear stress>we're not allowed to tell u this / that>
[1:01:48 AM] - M: H: the 2 fed agencies in my driveway; fbi 2ce; homeland sec here 1ce
[1:01:56 AM] - M: on phone w/ all of above
[1:02:22 AM] - M: they told me there was nothing I could say other than saying date/rate that cld stop the rv or put me in handcuffs
[1:03:18 AM] - M: they were here on Monday, in my driveway>both pressuring me, cuz they know I have 8 peo fr govt call me fr cellphones; they know the names/#'s
[1:03:24 AM] - M: wanted me to rat
[1:03:31 AM] - M: weren't threatening me
[1:03:41 AM] - M: never ugly to me
[1:03:55 AM] - M: no less than 2 in chats now; they monitor all of them
[1:04:18 AM] - M: RQueen: if giving dates/rate>becomes insider trading issue
[1:04:31 AM] - M: H: as long as I'm not pushing buying/selling of dinar
[1:04:51 AM] - M: some of our contacts up high overseas
[1:04:59 AM] - M: people killed over the dinar
[1:05:15 AM] - M: we know the line>not worth getting contacts killed; people fired too
[1:05:37 AM] - M: it's a real story>bombs dropped>Iraq different
[1:05:41 AM] - M: VERY REAL
[1:06:30 AM] - M: Caller: gloryman/TN; apprct u fellas;
[1:06:56 AM] - M: pattern of a force lrgr than life itself to do the good work?
[1:07:11 AM] - M: FF: speak for FBill too: preach fr same page
[1:07:49 AM] - M: ordained for end times>not doom & gloom>revelation>babylon power epicentr of world>precipace>bible wealth transfer wicked to righteious
[1:07:59 AM] - M: entire decade of incrsd blessing
[1:08:03 AM] - M: perfect? NO
[1:08:31 AM] - M: what we speak into our own lives: som e in churches> some billionaires & trillionaires
[1:08:41 AM] - M: * seems to have a purpose>part of the process
[1:09:24 AM] - M: FF: most think Christians be broke; I don't buy that>me post RV>God ok with us being rich>fund ministries to every corner
[1:09:50 AM] - M: FBill: gotta talk; rich not a dirty word>
[1:10:36 AM] - M: 2 things: "Pretty Woman" guy tore cos apart to build right>he said: we're going to build ships big ships; we're going to build big ministries
[1:10:53 AM] - M: God>>made me sure>souls saved already over last 8 yrs;
[1:11:13 AM] - M: developed a stronger Christian community, so we are chosen
[1:11:35 AM] - M: RQueen: maybe unpopular, but shouldn't ; transcendence>many road s to God>>
[1:12:01 AM] - M: Hannukah, Winter solctice tonight>all come togthr to revel in God power lives w/in all of us
[1:12:05 AM] - M: this is part of this
[1:12:13 AM] - M: PBear: not easy
[1:13:09 AM] - M: Caller: bobster1; Lake Chas; Hammer down the road
[1:13:26 AM] - M: Q: RQ gave a utube about PP ???
[1:13:43 AM] - M: H: LA Lady/donna: "HORIZON....
[1:14:10 AM] - M: "Thrive"?
[1:14:19 AM] - M: envision.... 4 hrs long
[1:15:17 AM] - M: Caller: time? rv
[1:15:25 AM] - M: H: by 12/23 or sanctions
[1:15:41 AM] - M: sov???
[1:16:02 AM] - M: FF: not an idlethreat; stick hard and fast
[1:16:17 AM] - M: we believe; not open ended; has to before eoy
[1:16:23 AM] - M: abosolutely dire
[1:16:42 AM] - M: "Change is on the HOrizon" on YouTube
[1:16:58 AM] - M: * time, enough to make good decisions
[1:17:09 AM] - M: don't want the good rate to drop out fr under me
[1:17:44 AM] - M: H: THINK THINK. good 14 days; maybe 2-3 mos; find a figure...if >$6<>>> make a decision
[1:18:30 AM] - M: FF: imo>stupid high rate for a month, then down to $4, then a month it'll go up; can't prove>w/ Hammer; not see a high rate 1st day
[1:19:25 AM] - M: RQ: add>Iraq riches in world>if switching to asset based curr>curr worth a lot>long run>winning war>stop worrying
[1:19:54 AM] - M: Caller: tu for expertise: cpl comments: instead of creating taxable event; can use dinar as collateral???
[1:20:12 AM] - M: H: I believe>can't use curr as a collateral if I understand that correctly
[1:20:31 AM] - M: Ray: Blaino says someone did it; isolated
[1:21:05 AM] - M: XXX: I told if longstanding curr in a foreign acct in U.S (???) but long time before iqd considered a stable curr
[1:21:38 AM] - M: * and ifhire an acctt, hire a lawyer and have him find your cpa?
[1:21:46 AM] - M: wise strategy?
[1:22:02 AM] - M: BEllaGrits: assets protection atty right away
[1:22:07 AM] - M: H: she's an atty
[1:22:25 AM] - M: * atty hire the acctt? insulate the acct fr testifying?
[1:22:38 AM] - M: BG: do whatever u need to do; not my strategy
[1:22:50 AM] - M: H: tax atty and certified cpa
[1:22:56 AM] - M: not same firm
[1:22:59 AM] - M: not same town
[1:23:22 AM] - M: H: checkered past>made mistakes>now happy>
[1:23:33 AM] - M: pay taxes>don't try to beat nothin
[1:23:46 AM] - M: whether 20 or 70%>Pay your dang taxes
[1:23:51 AM] - M: BG: not same firm
[1:24:52 AM] - M: banks give prvt bankers who'll surprise u what they bring to u
[1:25:06 AM] - M: H: if I"m in Europe, they'll bring me $300K
[1:25:13 AM] - M: will go out of their way to help u
[1:25:30 AM] - M: BG: use AProtection atty; can be in anthr state!!
[1:25:37 AM] - M: hard to find
[1:26:21 AM] - M: YYY: H? rate u were expecting
[1:26:28 AM] - M: range of rates...???
[1:26:51 AM] - M: H: I can repeat this 5.71 to gbp + - $.40 been stating
[1:27:01 AM] - M: plus $.40 plus
[1:27:12 AM] - M: XXX: that's as much as he can tell you
[1:27:20 AM] - M: YYY: u not disappointing
[1:27:40 AM] - M: hoping to know in nexxt 30 mins says Hammer
[1:28:03 AM] - M: Caller: 2 Q's; PP's; youtube?
[1:28:26 AM] - M: FF: will give u a good idea of overall history; not all I agree with
[1:28:34 AM] - M: info in general good>best out there
[1:28:47 AM] - M: H: LA LADY said same>good startup
[1:28:52 AM] - M: RQ, SG, PB??
[1:29:02 AM] - M: RQueen: good
[1:29:09 AM] - M: H: accurate?
[1:29:22 AM] - M: RQ: see "Thrive" everyone necessary 2 hrs
[1:29:32 AM] - M: incredible
[1:30:02 AM] - M: * if charitable org buys dinar, they not taxed?
[1:30:09 AM] - M: R: correct
[1:30:17 AM] - M: BG: I agree
[1:32:35 AM] - M: Caller: FL Trusts
[1:32:47 AM] - M: Ray: FL legislature repairing it now
[1:33:21 AM] - M: * fraud rampant>>>MF Global etc...why someone put someone else on their trust
[1:33:48 AM] - M: R: revoccable not meant for asset protection; doesn't protect fr estate taxes
[1:36:36 AM] - M: * ShamanGirl, that video>>lots of duiplication there>Q: is anyway in WGS, ss tied to debt as compared to NESARA?
[1:36:49 AM] - M: SGirl : don't understand ur question
[1:37:01 AM] - M: nothing to hide, don't understand ur question
[1:37:35 AM] - M: 1st: back to consititution; and ust absorbed fed res: something like that>fin changes; asset backed curr
[1:38:38 AM] - M: heard all countries; ME : oil / gas; go around world>long>equate curr's; start smooth / subtle>no panic>know peo i n U.S, that don't know we're not on a gold standard>most won't pay attn; but will chgs keep coming
[1:38:49 AM] - M: debt elimination not at first
[1:39:14 AM] - M: then they'll continue: then debt forgiveness> have to eliminate the debt; strawman acct>>> it's ur money
[1:39:25 AM] - M: fed goes away>false debt>relatively soon
[1:39:34 AM] - M: continue anncmnts daily for 3 mos.
[1:42:54 AM] - M: Caller: cash in / rates: H, u said not show on cbi; Ihave reserve wtih DB: they lock u in at cbi rate; if not showing>how am I protectd with DB vs. bank?
[1:43:26 AM] - M: if rv's tomorrow, get enough money to pay off reserve;
[1:44:39 AM] - M: H: if it goes out and u can't get ur reserve>
[1:44:55 AM] - M: BG: dealers, once live>they'll be aware and still lock in
[1:45:21 AM] - M: XXX: agrmnt on website; due on due date or 14 days after, whichever is later/longer
[1:45:30 AM] - M: BG: live>dealers will get it
[1:45:47 AM] - M: * will have to change their prices>and
[1:45:58 AM] - M: BG: yes, will have to get inventory back to Iraq
[1:46:08 AM] - M: reserves: ur fine
[1:46:42 AM] - M: reputable co.
[1:47:14 AM] - M: XXX: can go to dealer and pay off reserve with a note
[1:47:29 AM] - M: BG: form>they will deduct that fr what u owe
[1:48:03 AM] - M: ** yes, can cash in and wire into ur acct and deduct wht u owe
BG: depends on wht u have
[1:48:16 AM] - M: XXX: lk on website>strong
[1:48:46 AM] - M: Caller : ____queen: 2 Q's; giving church 100K>prior or aftr
[1:48:51 AM] - M: H: gift before
[1:49:12 AM] - M: * heard it's better aftr as a write off
[1:49:35 AM] - M: Ray: gift befre, no taxes for either
[1:50:14 AM] - M: Caller: witsy7 sandiego
[1:50:44 AM] - M: so glad to hear the Lord brought up; Q befr that Rothschilds and Morgan/Chase owning the cbi
[1:50:58 AM] - M: XXX: can we not go there?
[1:51:02 AM] - M: stay away
[1:51:10 AM] - M: YYY; yes not talk
[1:51:23 AM] - M: we're not professionals>touchie subject
[1:51:42 AM] - M: * wanna talk post rv to further the gospel
[1:52:14 AM] - M: I'm a hewbrew christian>god's brought me thru it 30 yrs
[1:52:24 AM] - M: email@example.com
[1:52:47 AM] - M: that's 4 7's
[1:53:34 AM] - M: * great job you guys; hearing peeps don't have peace
[1:54:05 AM] - M: whether it happens or not>I'm still me>peace of spirit>patience will bring peace
[1:54:40 AM] - M: God showed me holy city of Jerusalem>ltrs broke apart into 3 sets of ltrs>they came out of me USA
[1:54:59 AM] - M: I knew then that we smack in the middle>something to happen>I knew 30 yrs ago
[1:55:17 AM] - M: things happening so many people we have no clue>>
[1:55:50 AM] - M: we really don't know wht's going on>probably hear about it>w/patience we'll find peace>for the great harvest $$
[1:56:06 AM] - M: FF: Bella Grits and others we'll be doing things for the Kingdom
[1:56:13 AM] - M: websites>we'll put info out
[1:56:54 AM] - M: Caller: 25K note>curr exchange & wire to my bank to cash in
[1:57:01 AM] - M: XX: if they do wires
[1:57:04 AM] - M: * most do?
[1:57:11 AM] - M: XX: not at airport
[1:57:16 AM] - M: RQ: yes u can
[1:57:34 AM] - M: ** thought I understood rates till tonight
[1:57:58 AM] - M: e.g. if $4 wld that be our U.S. rate?
[1:58:16 AM] - M: BG: # u see in U.S. wil ll be converted already
[1:58:25 AM] - M: already be tied to the USD at banks
[1:58:37 AM] - M: * see on net befr banks?
[1:59:11 AM] - M: H: not cut & dry in beginning: people won't see; need a pkg or know somebody>maybe at a regional branch to know real cbi rate
[1:59:42 AM] - M: any bank that does curr, once they start, shld be w/in 48 hrs
[1:59:51 AM] - M: they'll be plzd to have ur money
[1:59:57 AM] - M: * bankruptcy?
[2:00:09 AM] - M: H: 100K they won't worry about ur past
[2:00:38 AM] - M: * if doesn't rv this yr>do we need to say that I bought notes in 2011?
[2:01:08 AM] - M: Ray: no , don't worry about that
[2:01:21 AM] - M: appreciation taken before it's relevant
[2:04:37 AM] - M: RQ: travelex: bring in curr, >$10K wired to acct; Curr Intrn'l>option to get cashier's check
[2:04:53 AM] - M: Caller: how to get in group??
[2:05:29 AM] - M: Subject line: today's date & ur name
[2:05:55 AM] - M: * in St Louis>if you're in Atlanta? do I have to go to Atlanta
[2:06:08 AM] - M: H: chances are u will have to travel, but not when we are
[2:06:13 AM] - M: depends on ur group
[2:06:19 AM] - M: tell approx amt of dinar
[2:06:23 AM] - M: in ur group
[2:07:39 AM] - M: Caller: group?
H: jonny's group, make ur own group; jonny & I may do a pkg together
[2:07:48 AM] - M: do what u feel comftable with
[2:08:41 AM] - M: * if u have trust bank acct, do u have to change
[2:08:56 AM] - M: Ray: u can have more than one bank acct with ur trust
[2:09:20 AM] - M: Caller: 1740
[2:09:31 AM] - M: Hey guys: quick: recorded #?
[2:09:45 AM] - M: BG: will post aftr call: every chatroom
[2:11:01 AM] - M: Caller: lady on about donating the dinar>she told to do aftr RV, so charity will cashing it in>so no
RAy: not wht she was told; gift befre it's valuable>so neither she nor the charity would pay tax on it
[2:11:50 AM] - M: * I worked for church >I was a financial planner; if apprctd asset given>the charity no tax, then donor have the write off at apprctd value
[2:12:05 AM] - M: H: that's where it's risky for us to answer on these calls
[2:12:28 AM] - M: * writeoff would help her own taxes
[2:13:15 AM] - M: Caller: silence
[2:15:36 AM] - M: Wrapup
[2:15:41 AM] - M: Be good stewards
[2:15:50 AM] - M: FF: we're on it and soon
[2:15:54 AM] - M: Scooter:
[2:15:57 AM] - M: Sean?
[2:16:00 AM] - M: soonerfan
[2:16:23 AM] - M: BG: u lwrd my pm box by 150/day
[2:16:35 AM] - M: tu for the call
[2:16:47 AM] - M: RQ: gone
[2:16:51 AM] - M: SGirl: done
[2:16:54 AM] - M: gone
[2:17:07 AM] - M: drummer: great call; responded to evryone
[2:17:19 AM] - M: H: long call>4 hrs>longest dinar call
[2:17:27 AM] - M: tu to everyone
[2:17:34 AM] - M: terrific job
[2:17:53 AM] - M: tks to all the sites
[2:18:08 AM] - M: XX: marshw she takes notes>reference material
[2:18:19 AM] - M: H: a lot to these calls
[2:18:29 AM] - M: entered a window>could see in morning
[2:18:36 AM] - M: lkg at 3 am tonight est
[2:18:41 AM] - M: few hints/rumors
[2:18:49 AM] - M: nothing confirmed w/ tonight
[2:18:53 AM] - M: and now till xmas
[2:18:55 AM] - M: tonight
[2:19:07 AM] - M: purple/tennis>iraq contacts>tonight
[2:19:20 AM] - M: forgot the prayer opening tonight
[2:19:30 AM] - M: we're here>pm me 24/7
[2:19:34 AM] - M: thk u
[2:19:36 AM] - M: good night
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