[findmoney] Anyone doing anything in the markets should listen to Greg . He is a no BS guy and knows whats going on.
[jetpack] CK this out http://finance.yahoo.com/news/chinasteps-buying-u-035700935.html
[spiritfilled] jetpack wow China still on the move...good post
[BigB] puppylove WCW I just checked Yahoo financials - Gold is now showing only down $3.70. That is some price correction - or manipulation!
[puppylove] BigB BigB hmmm
[BigB] puppylove I would not have believed it if I hadn't seen it. Too bad I didn't take a screen shot.
[WCW] BigB big differance from earlier
[BigB] WCW Did you see the -$83.00?
[WCW] BigB no i didn t look
[jetpack] BigB i seen it also
[BigB] jetpack Thank you!
[BigB] WCW Hey - I saw it. A few others did too. Manipulation!
[WCW] BigB yes it is
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[heyu288] gourmetgirl gold was reported as being down that number earlier now not so much....
[BigB] gourmetgirl That is what was posted in Yahoo.
[cruiser] GM all!! Gold Markets are NOT opened Yet. They open On Sunday at 17:00 EST. Start Trading at 18:00 EST.
[WCW] 4 and 5 cst
[BLESSME] Cruiser hi where do we stand??
[cruiser] BLESSME hi on our feet.... roflmao
WCW] cruiser is basel 3 done are the hold up
[cruiser] WCW Done??? 2019 it will be done. It was started and will be a work in progress for the next 6 years with Quota's or mandatory requirements that have to be met throughout the 6 year period.
[BLESSME] Cruiser any thing new?
[cruiser] BLESSME still waiting
jetpack] BigB yahoo showing down 83 again must be glitches
[cruiser] jetpack Maybe they have access to the top secret Back Screens and are posting it.. lol
[jetpack] cruiser lol well WD said thats was hold up in USA side and is not corrected roflmao
[jetpack] basil3 that is
[WCW] cruiser yes thanks we had intel in here today saying this was the hold up and i thought you had said that thanks bro.
[cruiser] jetpack I do not care what he says. Simple enough.
[highhopes] I beleive Wildduck said the US is Basel iii compliant now..From Recaps: [WILDDUCK] kyf58 did the us back the dollar to basil compliance yes or no [happydave1] WILDDUCK nope not yet [WILDDUCK] happydave1 IT IS NOW
[jetpack] burk50 IMHO earliest is tuesday but i will take tomorrow :)
[chillimac] WCW did we not hear last week that China brought all there gold to the usa to back the dinar, as in basiell 3
[jack1977] cruiser we gunna go to the bank lol
[cruiser] jack1977 it is closed today.
[WCW] cruiser i did say i think some people are digging up old things that was from sometime back
[cruiser] WCW such as??
[WCW] cruiser this basel3 stuff
[cruiser] WCW That is very well documented. If people look at all of the information on it, things become quite clear.
[tornado] WCW cruiser -What your guess for next week,Is it going to happen???
[cruiser] tornado lol
[tornado] cruiser -C'mon,I value your guess..........
[cruiser] tornado lol lol
[eagle808] cruiser don't fall for it lol don't become one them roflmao
[cruiser] eagle808 been there and done that.
[WCW] tornado it will happen before or during the budget announcement IMO
[sailman] WCW I think high possibility to se RV this evening (or very early am our time) to set up Budget vote tomorrow -- ME contact says that people in Iraq (and others) are quite UPSET with budget "crap" not being figured out by now -- blame Maliki
[WCW] sailman i think we have a good chance seeing it today are tonight we watch the budget and see what happens with it
[happydave1] if they operate like the us trying to get our bugdet done well i'm just going to go out n get me a kekr then rofl
[WCW] happydave1 well the differance is they are trying to get theirs done with rv ed currency
[huntress] i am curious what all of us in room think the hold up could be - I will go first - The US agreement on the budget (taxes)
[Jester] huntress i'll play... how about they are so close they need to make sure the money is in the right place...
[huntress] Jester ty lol just think it would be interested in what ppl are thinking
[Jester] huntress well i know what some people think and i know what i think... which is the same as an opinion... or in my opinion or someone else’s opinion... since none of us are controling the thing outright i would say anyone that write anything in this room is an opinion... does that answer that? lol
[happydave1] Jester you are right on with that one grin
[Jester] no one KNOWS and i guarantee you whoever does has better things to do than hang out with us in a chat room.... lol
[msgwen] Jester You said we are waiting for the money to be in the right places. Are you talking about the US being Basil III compliant?
jester] msgwen i am pretty sure they are... regarding the ce... the money has to be ready to go for it dont you think? this would depend on where it is coming from wouldnt it?
[Jester] so if you have so called gurus fighting it out over who os right or this is wrong to me it is defeating the point of this site which would be to discuss things and maybe get closer to the truth... just saying...
[viper1] TK said five currencies on the forex today and CE tomorrow.
keiji] viper1 did he sound confident?
[happydave1] i will say tk sure has guts to say that
[viper1] Yes - I was surprised. He did not say treat this as a rumor.
[Jester] who is finding the deal to get the oil credits... which is what the ce is about... has eveyone read about what happenes when you trade in your dinar because if you have not you are missing a key piece of info about what is going on....funding...
[msgwen] Jester Yes, Wildduck and Cruiser seemed to be talking about the US delaying the RV by not wanting to give us the Fiat system.
[Jester] msgwen no not what i was talking about... the gold and RESOURCES backed Basil III is a done deal... i am talking about where your dinar go after you are happily whistling dixie on the way home...
msgwen] Jester alot of it is going to China? for oil credits
[Jester] msgwen well ther is the rub and the part that is unsure... once it gets to that point who owns the credits? the US and China both want them... that is the issue...
[msgwen] Jester going to pay off our debt to China?
[Jester] so china buys up some 60% of WF and they are getting the dinar... soooo... go figure...
[obxlady1] Jester was told if ce at bank...USA.
[Jester] msgwen good deal... you are on it...
[Jester] obxlady1 true... but WF is special case to try and figure out right now exactly where it is going...
[wheezer2] Jester sooooooooo with that scenario, no wonder PTB have been putting out misinformation.....the ultimate pumpers?? lol
[msgwen] Jester So who is holding it up?
Jester] wheezer2 ya think there might even be some scenario where they actually want more dinar out in circulation? just thinking...
[happydave1] Jester why
[Jester] and then you have to wonder why they dont just go buy it up at the dealer level... kinda weird to start thinking about that ne believe me....
[happydave1] Jester if it isnt a international currency can the banks acually buy it n hold it
[Jester] happydave1 i was talking about the gov't what would stop china and the us?
happydave1] Jester a clause in the contract maybe
[wheezer2] Jester you think maybe there is a rule somewhere that says govt cannot buy from the dealers or can not own more than a certain %????
[Jester] wheezer2 i dunno.. makes ya wonder though
[Jester] so let me finish by saying if you have NOT read what happens when you change in your dinar you should read this article is it will give you a lot of insite to what is going on in the background... http://www.dinarrecaps.com/1/post/2011/07/-what-will-happen-when-you-cash-in-you-dinars.html
[wheezer2] Jester yep...cuz you KNOW we are not privy to the rules of the govt games
[msgwen] Jester We have been told for so long that "we" were not supposed to be involved.
[Jester] Maryrose that news is so old noone is talking about it anymore.. it is still there.. no report... 6 weeks later when they usually do it in 48 hours... really? hmmmm...
[happydave1] Jester i read it but the question i have is us small guys with little dinar or all of us put together is small beans compared to a gov that can buy trillions
[Jester] msgwen well... we are and now they cant do anything about it...
[msgwen] Jester that's right....so they might as well go ahead and DO IT!!!
[Jester] msgwen they will as soon as they get all the pieces in place... a lot of people thought last thursday would be good... then a small hiccup... well huge really but that is another story... so... now timing...
[Maryrose] wheezer2 knowing the over regulations on this country I wouldn't be at all surprised that once the RV is called the dealers would have to turn back all unsold dinar. I don't know this as a fact but it makes sense
[wheezer2] Maryrose i don't know.....i am thinking they just will change the rates when they exchange
[eagle808] Jester did you talk to WD this morning?
[Maryrose] wheezer2 perhaps. i'm sure they have the serial numbers or something
[wheezer2] Maryrose TRUST ME....they have a LOT more than serial #'s lol
[blessing] Jester it appears everything is done except the right timing? So they can dance but we are starting to notice it is to their own tune not ours.. lol
[msgwen] Jester so the hiccup was solved?
[Jester] i know you guys WANT it to be right but the sinple facts are that based on past history the chances are way better for it to be wrong... now you want to fight the statistics be my guest but i am not going to do that for you...
[happydave1] Jester did i miss something with the conversation here what is right and wrong?
[sandytob] Jester so I guess there was a delay when everyone (except Dan at PTR) was saying that there wasn't.
[bailey2..] happydave1 really, I was just wondering that myself
[Jester] blessing that is my THINKING based on the people that i know are telling me which it their THINKING based on things they see or think they see or think they know or so on and so on... lol
[happydave1] bailey2.. i thought he might have been agreeing with tk for tonight but maybe i missed it
[Jester] no one KNOWS... we see things that we think look good... things that line up.. and some actual happening that have not happened before... so... there you have that.. is it the best guess scenario...
[blessing] Jester The funny thing about this is when we get close and everyone is on the same page and their info is right on, they change something at the last minute and that is why it will be hard for anyone to ever be right about the timing.. Its coming but they can change in the very last second
[greasee5] Jester I posted an article from Reuters last week, i may sound like im beating a dead horse here but everyone in this should read it, Lagarde said the US, Obama admin. is holding up advancement since procedures and protocols were not implemented that were due in 2010, that says it all imo
[Jester] sandytob a delay indicates a stoppage of something you are in the middle of like the delay of game in football... i think they just havent got there yet... so how can it be a delay...
[xyz] Jester what has happened that did not happen before?
[Jester] xyz something that needed to be taken care of got taken care of...
greasee5] Jester We simply failed to be ready on time, but progress is being made, it was from feb.1st
[Ozzieman] Basically things behind scenes are being completed and organized, banking system is being organized, money is moving around, political sides are hashing things out, when everything is ready , then hopefully it fits into the plans of the goverments to allow this to happen in a time frame we want.
[greasee5] Ozzieman exactly what i believe to be happening
[Jester] let me put it another way please... this thing is probably the largest financial transaction in the history or earth... conisting of who knows how many moving parts and pieces... of which the dinar is a very small part when compared with the overall picture...
[msgwen] Ozzieman sounds right to me. Good post.
Jester] we are only concerned with out ce and getting our money... but it is so much more world changing than that it will take some diligence to get it done..
[Ozzieman] Just because something shows up on a banking system, does not mean its going soon, the goverment is doing everything they can do decieve and manipulate the release of the RV. They are intentionally putting false information out knowing that egos will pick it up and run with it. We will not know when.
[Jester] so when you consider that all this is such a huge deal and some things could happen along the way correct?
[Maryrose] Jester correct
[wheezer2] Jester Jester they just need to call me to get my help in getting it done......i am extremely capable of getting things done correctly the first time LOL
[Jester] most of what we see are indicators of other things... that is why some people watch iraq... no presonally i dont but they do have good info they bring and i like to see the end result of what IS happening because it is an indicator... but it does not MEAN that is going to happen... in my opinion... now if you see the chapter 7, the HCL, burget and all the other things left done then start looking around because you need to hold on to your shorts... lol
[sandytob] Jester It is absolutely understood that the global reset is a huge project that takes a lot of planning and time. So, how many years has this been in the planning? Many IMO. However, countries do and have RVd and DVd their currency during this time...even this week. So what's with the dinar?
[ [Jester] they are a play in action and there is things that happen after other things... simple as that....
[happydave1] well i read an article that said no reset till the usd crashes then they can sell it to the people
[Jester] sandytob this part is a little more complicated because of the oil credits and the currency it is and the fact that WE got into it when we were not invited... anyone in this room got any of those other currencies? see what i mean?
[happydave1] this is just an opinion but when the gov see's all these new millionaires talking about how they are going to clean up the country well to them you just became a liability what we should all be saying is we will back them 100% but we need the money to give them to back them up
[Jester] happydave1 they will be getting tax infusion dont ya think? they will love it...
[berberboy] Jester that what i thought, i agree 100% that it would work if we could count on doing business with iraq that long. i know alot of people thinks iraq is out of this, but to me many of the hold ups may be the U.S govt, big business or china just making sure iraq is stable enough to commit that much $ [Jester] berberboy i dont think iraq is in control of this situation.. i think a lot of what is going on is days of our lives... US won the war... china probably owns us by now... lol... who is in control?
[rotormech35] Jester So once everything is online and eveyone is online and the rates for every currency is loaded how long does the IMF have to "push the button"?
[Jester] rotormech35 well i dont know about the IMF... but the button is just sitting there waiting right now from what i am being told...
[19rue] Jester Based on your knowledge and the people you are listening to, do you think it will happen during February?
[Jester] 19rue based on the stuff you said... yes..