[nolaspice] whooo hoooo - happy friday!! lets all agree to get along, get apart or get a spanking - i bought a wooden spoon lst night and i am feeling feisty!!!! step right up! loving life - filled with energy and ready to share the jubilation!!
paradisegirl] Robertprofessor Loved Jester's post from last night
[Robertprofessor] paradisegirl Yes, me too. I think my basic guess of where we are right now is correct: tier 2 is finishing up, it's taken more time than guessed, but our turn is drawing near. I think that's where we are today.
[paradisegirl] Robertprofessor would be funny if it went live on Monday - tax day would take on a whole new meaning! lol
[Robertprofessor] paradisegirl That would be sweet!
[tc0043] Robertprofessor IMO no one will have access to cash until there is a live public rate.
[weimar] tier one - soverign nations - tier 2 govt officals and mucky mucks - tier 3 us
[Papa Bear] weimar Good Post
[Robertprofessor] tc0043 That has to be true. Double dip scenarios of any type have been eliminated, imo.
[Robertprofessor] weimar I guess I'm not a mucky muck, shucks.
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[free4flight] Does anyone know the history of the RI of the Kuwaiti Dinar? Did they use the Tier system? I can understand maybe why the gov'ts get to go first but it seems to me the rest of us would be getting it on at the same time.
[candy] free4flight this is not the same deal as Kuwait
[free4flight] I understand it is not the same but it was similar in certain ways...
[candy] free4flight not really... Kuwait was in RI and the circumstances were completely different
[free4flight] The same in that they bought for pennies and then walked in and exchanged at a high rate
[moonchild] the IQD situation is much more similar to what happened with the deutschmark after WW2 than what happened in Kuwait
[free4flight] Still... was wondering if they used a tier system to exchange?
[cman13] jmo in most gov's. as in federally regulated entities they have tier systems in place. ( Rail road etirements fed. retirements etc. ) tiers are not an uncommon thing. It's a form of a chain of command so to speak. who cares about this? we wait our turns. it's all we can do. it's not who is right or
[greasee5] free4flight deff. not the same, but kuwait went, and fast on a free float and almost broke the country, with hedges, up to 12 bucks in 6 hrs. before they stepped in and adjusted rate to sustainable amt. (managed float)
[free4flight] cman13 It was more of history question more than anything, it was me wondering if they used a tier system with the Kuwaiti dinar exchange, it doesn't matter to me at all the timing of a tier 3 exchange as long as it is this MORNING.. HA
[cman13] free4flight well even when kuwait happened imo it still had to run through a tiered proccess. All things do. look at court cases. they are all stepped to be in a certain order.
[okrocks] [wileymorgan] The tier theory is an easy way to state things, but for all intense and purposes not quite factual [wileymorgan] Hypothetically lets say that some contracts with certain entities were given back when the Iraq currency was to originally revalue. Said contracts are still valid and being honored…
[wileymorgan] Me-you-we will be the last to make our way to any location to make an exchange-cash out-or whatever they are calling it now, I quit keeping track of all the misinfo, to much to remember. Think I will just stay with what the deal that was made with the bank.
[msgwen] free4flight One main difference in IQD and Kuwait is that people like us
[Robertprofessor] Papa Bear My basic idea of where we are is this: tier 2 is doing their thing, it's taking a bit longer than first guessed, but they're nearly done, and we follow shortly after? Is that a rough estimate of where things are now?
[Jester] Robertprofessor seems to be some tier questions... TIER 1. SETTLEMENT PACKAGES, THAT'S MONEY TO THE SOVERIGNS AKA COUNTRY'S, 2: ARE THE PLATFORM HUMANITARIAN PROJECTS ETC AND BIG GUYS AKA WHALES, 3: ALL AROUND HOME GROWN REGULAR CRAZY PEOPLE WITH A DREAM OF EXCHANGING DINAR ONE DAY.
[coorslite21] Robertprofessor .....IYO.....who determined the tiers.......and what's the break off between 2 and 3?
[cherish] Robertprofessor yep
vegaspete] Were waiting for Okie then the email period..
Robertprofessor] coorslite21 I have no idea how the tiers were developed. As to your second question, I think tier 3 will follow tier 2 immediately, and there is some type of codependence between them.
[Jester] if that sounds like WILDDUCK that is because it is from his previous posts...
[Robertprofessor] Jester Yes to all of that. Some have wondered when the tier system came into this or maybe just into view, have tiers been done in the past like with Kuwait of the German mark after WW2, etc. Bigger question, can the tier 2 people finish and give us our turn?
[Readynow] Jester where do the PP fit into this please?
[davrr007] Robertprofessor The Tier Concept has been going on for years...
[free4flight] Robertprofessor Good questions... :)
[Robertprofessor] Readynow He may be wrapped up with IMs, etc, but the PP are part of tier 2.
[weimar] Jester techniocally are there two l;evels of tier 3 - the groups and the joe blows who picked up 2 mil dinar when over in iraq but not part of a group?
[Jester] weimar i think that is a good way to look at that... yes
[Robertprofessor] davrr007 Yes, and that's what some are asking this morning ... a history sketch might help for understanding and convincing. Not all believe it.
[burk50] Robert so those with pp r tier 2 ? And is tier 2 done ?
[free4flight] If PP's are a part of Tier 2 then checks should be in the mail ;)
[Jester] Robertprofessor i dont think anyone cared where it came from once they understood what it was..
[sananddan24] I have no problem with the tiers has been explained 50 dozen time... Can we move on rofl
[Robertprofessor] Jester Do you have information on how things are progressing with tier 2, and might that give us a sense of probable timing for us?
[Jester] Readynow we dont know excatly...
[davrr007] Robertprofessor My recollection/history is that many x's that the excitement level has reached a high pitch to no avail, the rumors start about the Top Tiers cashing in & it's just a matter of time b4 it gets to us...
[Robertprofessor] Jester I can see that the progress of tier 2 could not be known. That needs to be kept out of view.
[Jester] Readynow let me do better... we know that they are there we just don't know exactly how they tie into the picture at this time... not going to post our thought because not 100% confirmed..
[Robertprofessor] davrr007 We've certainly heard in the past about tier 1 and 2 doing such and such ... and then plop, nothing for us. Maybe there was activity all those other times. IDK
[Jester] Robertprofessor lots of news about this is getting done...
[spiritfilled] Father please bring your wisdom and peace to this room..above all may the truth prevail in all words and thoughts and the conclusion of the release be done now ..in Jesus name...
[Robertprofessor] Jester And we appreciate that you and the team do not give us guess work without any confirmation. It's much better for us that all is vetted the way you all do it, and then you bring it in here.
[weimar] Jester although really just a way to look at it - groups will be easier for banks to deal with since we are learned and other folks will drop by and say cash me in :)
[Jester] weimar yes that is true.. that is the original reason it has been set up that way... to keep it orderly and for your security as well...
[Robertprofessor] weimar The things you are saying are so sensible. Ty
[weimar] Jester Robertprofessor i do actually listen to you guys :)
[shellbell] I definetly think the tiers are real. I'm just glad that info is coming out that this process has started... I am ready for our turn :)
[firemanswife] I've been in this for a little over three years and have heard this recycled info about these tiers cashing out now over and over... I am really beginning to wonder. It seems its the same info just different gurus... IMO
[Jester] firemanswife all along when they started understanding how it was going to work they started thinking they knew the signs of it happeneing... they reported that erroneously... signs should not have been reported as facts...
[firemanswife] Jester... I do understand that too, it's been a long process and a lot of mis info to sort through. We all have to be responsible and know what and who to listen to and what to let go of IMO thanks for your patience with us ;)
[Jester] firemanswife this is one of the best posts i have ever seen by a guru regarding that... [Soonerfan62] OVER THE LAST 6 MONTHS I HAVE REALIZED THAT THERE WAS A LOT MORE THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE THAT NONE OF US KNEW AT THE TIME. WHILE EVERYONE WAS LOOKING FOR IT EVERYDAY, WE, MEANING EVERYONE THAT USED TO POST KNEW THAT IT WASN’T HAPPENING BECAUSE ALL THIS WAS NEEDED. HAPPY TO SAY THAT MOST HAS NOW BEEN DONE AND I FOR ONE AND MOST OF THE REST OF THE OLD PROVIDERS NOW KNOW THAT WE CAN FINALLY GET EXCITED BECAUSE WE ARE AT THE END FINALLY.
[Jester] and he is a well respected guru and i think that was an honest post...
[vegaspete] What I was told is that tier 1a is countries, etc.. tier 1b is whales and groups like the Admiral, Cardinal groups and other groups like that. Tier 1a received vouchers.
[greasee5] The new U.S. budget cut support for Iraq
[sananddan24] Greasee5 now that is a biggie!!!!!!!!
[greasee5] sananddan24 yes it is!!
[greasee5] Maliki Faces Tough Political Choices Ahead of Election
[greasee5] sananddan24 so is the next one i posted, read it, maybe even twice
[coorslite21] tiers make no logical sense........when it happens it will happen everywhere at once and it will show on the CBI first without anyone calling it..........then it will be the race for all of the Gurus to claim they were the first.....
[dilmus123] coorslite21 the golden rule,,,whoever has the gold makes the rules
[coorslite21] dilmus123 ....not sure what you mean....
[dilmus123] coorslite21 the rich and powerful can make it up as they go imo
[coorslite21] dilmus123 ......alright....very true....
[sananddan24] Spiritfilled did you read flashing post this morning?
[spiritfilled] sananddan24 Yes ..pray he is on to something...IMO
[weimar] I laugh at the ' you guys are idiots for believing in the tiers" and the "tiers are to make all easier"
[weimar] the issue is that we are all guessing until it comes out. I do think it will be anticlimatic
[weimar] it'll happen, people will get money, we'll stumble around, but all will iron out
[dilmus123] weimar even us idiots
[weimar] dilmus123 esp us idiots :)