Post From philosophyofmetrics By JC Collins
JC Collins & Reader Comments On The Organization Of The Masses
Rick Shade April 15, 2014 at 2:46 am Conspiracy theories are certainly NOT illusory. How do you organize the masses with intellectual thought when you discount simple truths and use word to dismiss them. It is fact that the “rent seeking elite” have a “plan” for the “lesser humans”.
Defining conspiracy opens the door to the truth about them. Evil exists, and is often disguised as good….
JC Collins April 15, 2014 at 3:12 am Rick, you miss so much of the fundamentals being presented here that I almost didn’t post your comment.
The religious filter through which you see and process the world has done nothing but further divide humanity and enslave the spirit. Unfortunately, your comments will become less likely to be posted as they contribute little. And no, I’m not afraid of “truth”.
Daneackerman April 15, 2014 at 3:21 pm Rick if you think that JC is working evil disguised as good then you always have the choice (for now) to read or not read what ever you want.
To answer your question directly though. You organize the masses by educating the masses with “truth” known as factual evidence that a substantial base of knowledge can be derived. So that when those beliefs need to be defended they have a solid base in which logic will hold.
This way you become credible as apposed to a conspirator which is nothing more than gossip for sale. They don’t care about your well being. Think about your own statements about how evil and powerful the elite are.
Do you think those elite would allow the conspiracy theory tv show to air what it does? Your logic breaks down. Your religion has worked well at closing your eyes to objectivity. Sorry to be harsh but the truth isn’t always comfortable.
Rick Shade April 15, 2014 at 4:39 pm JC is not consciously taking sides. he is certainly spot on in analyzing the machine. the elite would prefer NOT to allow anything but what is aired on MSM. the internet has changed that.
It really comes down to a question of who decides right and wrong, doesn’t it? Who calls the shots?
I studied philosophy in college, and ALL the world’s major religions, and meditation, out of the body projection, spiritism….all of it. I have listened and joined in endless debates about the meaning in a lot of things.
I have concluded that man was created. In that conclusion, I also concluded that the Bible’s claim that God IS love….is the truth. When examining the Scriptures from that viewpoint, and his other cardinal attributes of wisdom, power, and justice…..you can discern and find the truthful message the Bible brings.
It has withstood the test of time…and it claims to be inspired of God. I investigated it….at first quite suspiciously….. but have discovered that it is….inspired of God…and beneficial..
However, most people examine the Bible…or God…or their beliefs…on their terms… the Greek philosopher, Demosthenes said eons ago… “we believe what we WANT to believe” …. so true
Chris Palmer April 15, 2014 at 3:17 am Excellent post gentlemen!.
To those who may not know, The Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars was a chapter in the book – A Pale Horse – by Bill Cooper. He was a former navy intelligence officer that was assassinated in November 2001, after he predicted Bin Laden would be used for a patsy in June of 2001.
He did the following interview in 1992, The best and candid interview I have heard. It is well worth the listen in my opinion. Bill Cooper interview CNN Uncut original 1:59.57
bgsv April 15, 2014 at 8:29 pm Amazing!!!! So much of what we have learned here is completely in sync with Coopers experiences.
godschild18 April 15, 2014 at 4:19 am This reminds me of what I read on the book The making of the atmic bomb, by Richard Rhodes. It says on page 21: Szilard’s originality stopped at no waterline.
Somewhere along the way from sixteen-year-old prophet of the fate of nations to thirty-one-year-old open conspirer negotiating publishing rights with H.G.Wells, he conceived an \open \conspiracy of his own.
He went to see Wells in 1929 as much from enthusiasm for the Englishman’s perspicacity as for his vision. C.P. Snow, the British physicist and novelist, writes of Leo Szilard that he had a temperament uncommon anywhere, maybe a little less uncommon among major scientists.
He had a powerful ego and invulnerable egocentricity; but he projected the force of that personality outward, with beneficent intention towards his fellow creatures.. Beneficent intention in this instance is a document proposing a new organization: Der Bund – the order, the confederacy, or, more simply, the band.
The Bund, Szilard writes, would be a closely knit group of people whose inner bond is pervaded by a religious and scientific spirit”:
If we possessed a magical spell with which recognize hte “best” individuals of the rising generation at an early age… then we would be able to train them to independent thinking, and through education in close association we could create a spiritual leadership class with inner cohesion which would renew itself on its own.
It seemed to Slizard that such a group stood a good chance of influencing public affairs even if did not have formal structure or constitutional position. or tie “might take over a more direct influence on public affairs as part of a political system, next to government or parliament or in the place of government and parliament.”
“The Order, Szilard wrote at a different time, “was not supposed to be something like a political party… but rather it was supposed to represent the state.” Thirty or fourty people…. would form the marue political structure of the Bund. “Because of the method of selection (and education)… there would be a good chance that decisions at the top level would be reached by fair majorities.”
And on page 31 Michael Polanyi, Leo Szilard’s friend, he discovered a republic of science….and it goes on…. on pages 32, 33, 34…
One needs to read the whole thing to see how the scientists that were working on the making of the bomb, worked.
Now at the same time I am reading this book I am reading The murder of Orlando Letelier, Death in Washington by Donald Freed with Fred Landis.
The book is a how to the CIA and the likes of Kissinger and company operates. The book is packed with information that corroborates the modus operandi of those in power and that they will not stop before anything either.
And as far as my experience with the state apparatus back home, I totally agree that what science has become is just a form of control.
Susan Morris April 15, 2014 at 5:54 am I suffer from hopetimism, that not all of this is the Hegelian dialectic:
JC Collins April 15, 2014 at 6:04 am
In the SDR series I explain how the Bank for International Settlements will be the clearing house for SDR bond transactions. All countries have a central bank which is a part of the BIS system, this includes the BRICS countries.
The IMF will be at the center of a supra-sovereign currency system and the BRICS Development Bank will be one of the issuers of SDR bonds. What is happening on the world scene right now is a part of the problem/reaction/solution. It is unfolding as planned. All roads will eventually lead to the SDR.
Gails Waters April 15, 2014 at 3:40 pm Per Christine Lagarde
“MS. LAGARDE: We don’t comment on rumors, but I’m not going to leave you with that. It is a bit short. I think it is clear to everybody that the collective action clauses, as they’re applied, proved to have deficiencies, and we certainly realized that when we dealt with the Greek debt restructuring.
So, what do we do? Do we just sit and wait, or do we try to work in good cooperation with other members, with the membership first, of course, and in consultation with others to see how they can be improved?
I think our duty is to do some work, to do enough consultation, enough iteration of how they can be improved, and then submit them for Board review and see how we move forward. We have been tasked by the Board to actually explore that.
Now, I want to dismiss the idea that we would be heading in the direction of what some of you who have been around a long time know as the SDRM, which is that extremely structured and organized way of dealing with restructuring. We are not heading in that direction.
Let’s be clear about that. So, if you hear rumors, you can tell them that I told you very specifically that we’re not heading in that direction at all. But, are we working on the issue of CACs and the efficiency of CACs and how we can best and equitably deal with those matters? Yes, we have to. We have to.” What is a CAC? Thanks
JC Collins April 15, 2014 at 3:48 pm Collective Action Clauses. This is somewhat more complex than what I have been explaining to readers, but if you wish to learn even further, have a look at this link.
Gails Waters April 15, 2014 at 4:53 pm Thanks again for the info Interesting, CL also states that the SDRM is a rumor JC, any comment on that? TIA
Gails Waters April 15, 2014 at 5:18 pm Sorry I misrepresented CJ comment. So here is her words
“Now, I want to dismiss the idea that we would be heading in the direction of what some of you who have been around a long time know as the SDRM, which is that extremely structured and organized way of dealing with restructuring. We are not heading in that direction. Let’s be clear about that”
JC, please comment on this Tia
JC Collins April 15, 2014 at 6:00 pm Of course they are heading towards that. It may be two or more steps away, but that is the direction.
Dripfood April 16, 2014 at 7:08 am Yes, don’t keep your eyes at the nose of the plane when determining the direction it really aims at. Side winds will force it off course. Some people control such illusive and invisible forces as national or global side winds.
Didn’t you notice, after watching your avarege politician, that the state or institution always ends up somewhere way off the ‘set’ course? Keep your attention on the forces/influences, not on tangible matters and certainly not on stories.
Wondering Aloud (@WonderingAloud1) April 15, 2014 at 6:15 am What is fascinating to me is the intentional degrading of American society, through the increasingly profane and ever-present entertainment media, dumbed-down education, marginalization of parents and church/local communities (accomplish greatly through the super-sizing of schools and pop culture), masculinizing of women, demonization of men, and the pathologizing of childhood.
These efforts—all intentional—have contributed to the sloth-like, unintelligent behavior of many Americans. People are coarsened and shut down. Lacking the strong moral guidance of real adults, we have generations seeking fulfillment in places and things where they will never be fulfilled.
Our stories are no longer classic literature that imbue our children with reference points and moral understanding of their place in the world, but rather they feast on Disney Channel fare where they watch other children grow up in sitcom fashion.
Children such as Miley Cyrus, who certainly did damage to a generation of Disney fans forced to witness her moral degradation.
One can only think that thought of living in the depraved world featured as the “real world” in American media is depressing the heck out a great many young people.
It fascinates me that the “problem” of people who will not use their intelligence appears to have been manufactured. If you spin a person around long enough, he or she will not be able to orient themselves.
Axx fann (@fann_axx) April 15, 2014 at 8:01 am Read Charlotte Iserbyt piece TheDevil’s Seven-Prong Fork
Susan Morris April 15, 2014 at 2:13 pm @JC: thanks for your reply, and of course your explanation makes perfect sense, but it also means that even sharp analysts like Jim Willie are way off, as at the beginning of his latest article he says Papa Bush is getting his just deserts, whereas you posted the letter from the BWC to Congress which had Papa Bush as founder.
*sigh* no hope, then? I appreciate the comment above about moral guidance, and I have tried to live a moral, honest life, but this outcome shows that exactly the opposite pays, big time.
I still hold on to a comment I heard from Clif High: even after massive centralisation, the centre cannot hold…
Jeremy Moore April 15, 2014 at 2:14 pm It has taken me a long time to understand the true meaning of the term “conspiracy theory”. Truth be told, I am conspiring to write this reply. I conspired with my wife to have children. Conspiracy is not so ominous when you look at the meaning of it.
It’s the theory part that leads us into all kinds of confusion, especially if the reader has political or religious leanings. If I may be so bold as to assume to know the mind of JC and other contributors, I do not for a second believe them to be saying “conspiracies do not exist.” .
You’re missing so much if that is your intreptation. Again, see the Webster’s definition of the term and it’s plain to see that “conspiracies” occur every day, and they don’t all include murder or espinoge. The real fact is we are lied to regularly about most everything in the “real world”.
To get caught up in all the details leads one round and round, deeper and deeper, off into a tangent of distraction and distortion, which in turn pulls one further and further from the real reasons an action was taken. (whatever they may be). 9-11 is the best example of this.
To any semi-objective observer, it is easy to see the event did not happen the way the officiaI version claimed, but one could spend years diggin into the available facts and be no closer to “truth” than when they began.
Truth is a fickle and complicated concept and often “truth” and “fact” doesn’t neccessairly go together. I have learned to observe events and try to discern their meaning using heart/intuition.
I do not get caught up in the “why” and “who”. It really doesn’t matter. What matters is the official version of most events is a lie intended to suit an agenda. One may be better off attempting to understanding that agenda and who pushes it rather than get caught up in the devil of the details.
In this day and age, it’s pretty easy to find them for the one who really cares to look.
At the end of the day, all the “conspiracies” being perpetrated against us are just reflections of the same “conspiracies” our ego perpetrates against our spirit.
“Their” system exists because we need it to, because we can’t find the courage to face ourselves in the mirror and accept what we all have allowed to this reality to manifest.
We have traded religion for spirituality, politics and “civilization” for soverignity and living in harmony with our natural environment. We seek to conquer nature/god rather and (falsely) believe our intelect and technology will save us.
We explode for “creative/useful” energy production rather than implode (which is how the entire Universe from the micro to the macro creates free and clean energy). We have a long ways to go as a collective to right the ship, and perhaps shorter time than ever before we run aground.
For the seekers out there, I beg you to read the works of Walter Russel, Viktor Shauberger, and Nikola Tesla. I beg you to read the entire 8 part series of books entitled “The Ringing Cedars of Russia” by Vladimir Megre for a depth and innerstanding of how everything got to this point and how to get it back.
I have yet to encounter a more complete source of “truth”, hope and knowledge of humanities real nature. None of us have it all “right”. That’s sort of the point of living.
If you are one who feels the need to “be right” always or that “your ideas” are the “right ones”, then you can be sure of one thing for certain; You are a lilving example of how all this came to be in the first.
Keep up the great work guys/gals!
Hugh April 15, 2014 at 5:01 pm Good points all Jeremy. It takes each of us varying amounts of time to learn discernment in what passes for “schooling” and again when our real education begins.
We are tasked with having to identify trolls who’s advocation and often paid occupation is to “poison the wells” of the more sinister conspiracies who’s additional object, of which there are many, is to marginalize the questioners while leaving us to doubt the sanity of anyone that would ever dare broach a particular subject.
We have technocrat comrade Cass Sunstein, among other politburo colleagues, to thank for much of the misdirection, misinformation that serves as information.
He probably wishes his parents were as proud of him as his mentor Edward Bernays most assuredly is.
Hugh April 15, 2014 at 3:30 pm To be truly free is both very easy and very hard. We avoid the horror of our enslavement because it is so painful to see it directly.
We dance around the endless violence of our dying system because we fear the attacks of our fellow livestock. But we can only be kept in the cages we refuse to see. Wake up… to see the farm, is to leave it.” ~Stefan Molyneux
I remain optimistic that humanity is awakening to recognize the distinction between having to buy the lies and having the option to decline the lies. I don’t recall who made this salient observation for us to consider but nonetheless through osmosis of various media and oral traditions it is encroaching at our doorstep; “we can accept God becoming man to save man, but not man becoming God to save himself.”
If our wishes cannot alter the state of facts, then we would be better off allying ourselves with truth, rather than relying on imaginary evidence dressed up in academic terminology, which in the end will evaporate, leaving us nothing on which to stand. The Story of Your Enslavement
Susan Morris April 15, 2014 at 10:16 pm Hope:
Jeremy Moore April 15, 2014 at 10:17 pm @ daneackerman andHugh Thank you both for your kind words. It’s humbling and appreciated.
Daneackerman; It took me “loosing everything” (as in foreclosure/bankruptcy) to really get me to wake up. I have since gone from living in a condo in a major city, slaving my life away in a kitchen feeding over-priced food to under-appreciative snobs to living in an old greyhound bus in the woods of the Deep South.
I did it with a wife and kids, and I can’t begin to explain how much happier, healthier, and fulfilled I am.
We’re doing everything we can ourselves, but I am not patting myself on the back or suggesting you do the same, I am merely pointing out that in order for me to begin my own “re-education” process, I had to be subjected to the system’s cold and uncaring ways. I have become a totally different person, a “better” person for sure.
There are so many traps to fall into along the way. Everything the majority accept as basic truths are anything but. Science, politics, history, religion, cosmology, pretty much everything that so-called intellectuals base their reality upon has been perverted and distorted.
I certainly do not judge any individuals’ choices to believe in anything they choose, but I know from personal experience, ones’ ego is the toughest adversary one will ever battle, and all the above mentioned are geared towards keeping ego in the driver seat. It is my belief that doing so is imperative to keeping the illusion alive.
I have zero doubt that an intelligent force had a hand in the creation of all matter and spirit, but I do not need a priest or book to confirm this, i need only my own powers of observation and the guiding of my heart.
I also have zero doubt that in the end humanity will “get it right”, but it’s important to understand that it has taken thousands of years to get to this point. Therefore, I can only surmise it will take longer than most of us wish to complete the cycle. Stay the course.
Hugh/JC; You both, in my humble opinion, are taking it to the “next level” in providing individuals the means to balance spirit and matter, Despite this blog being primarily focussed on geo-politics, you two specifically are making points that can be applied to core of what it means to be human and also providing the real solutions to manifesting a physical world that is more “desirable”.
Based on most of the comments here, people are starting to see the bigger picture. You both have given me key pieces to the puzzle that have propelled me further along in my own development and I intend to pay it forward. Little by little we will realize the change we wish to see.
Hugh April 16, 2014 at 7:08 am Think where man’s glory most begins and ends, and say my glory was I had such friends. ~William Butler Yeats
Jeremy this brief episode in your life you’ve graciously shared is a suburb example of spirit which is immanent in human nature.
I could be wrong but I suspect that as a result of your trials and tribulation, you, as well as your wife and children, have grown to savor the simpler things in life and may even consider yourself fortunate in some respects that you were forced, unfairly or not, into learning to reduce your wants and accepting that you probably had all that you ever really needed.
Yes, I “feel” your story; it is compelling and is most likely being experienced by countless other families who have yet to realize, like you have, that ‘you’ve got to go through it to get to it’.
And like you, they will survive because of that aforementioned spirit that takes up rent free residence in the hearts of men and most likely made you stronger for having to endure it.
It has me recalling some of the more genuine human dramas recounted in literature. I was introduced to the playwright Thornton Wilder in high school. When I say introduced, what I really mean is I was compelled (forced) to read “Our Town”.
I would be lying if I told you that I actually understood what it was all about while I was reading it. No, it would take many years and an expanded consciousness before the full impact of what “Our Town”, a play that I had read in my teens, would come to mean to me and how it still resonates.
“Our Town” is a realistic play about uncommon events more than common events; it’s about unhappy events rather than happy ones; about violence rather than peace. It tends to move you by presenting the commonplace aspects of life that we all share. Wilder and most good writers, like JC, ;) give us deeper insights into experiences that we may have taken for granted.
This play will make you laugh, and possibly weep; and more, it will make you think. Wilder once described the play as “an attempt to find a value above all price for the smallest events in our daily lives”. Trust me, he succeeds.
A simple three act play that has “Emily”, a central character, despondent over her sudden realization while taking a tour near her own grave site by the stage manager (another character) that life for the living is just a blur and it (life) will surely pass them by without a nary a notice.
She laments that even for the so called ‘awakened’ who seem oblivious to and can’t appreciate how valuable their time is on this earth and who are ignoring her impassioned pleas for them to touch, to feel, to taste, to smell, to reach out to the ones you love while there is still precious time.
Her frustration now palpable, she bemoans her fate to the stage manager; “I didn’t realize. So all that was going on and we never noticed. Take me back-up the hill-to my grave. But first-wait! One more look.
Goodby, goodby, world. Goodby, Grover’s Corner…Mama and Papa. Goodby to clocks ticking…and Mama’s sunflowers. And food and coffee. And new-ironed dresses and hot baths…and sleeping and waking up.
Oh, earth, you’re too wonderful for anybody to realize you.” (She looks toward the stage manager and asks, abruptly, through her tears) “Do any human beings ever realize life while they live it-every, every minute?” The stage manager paused and then said; “No. The saints and poets, maybe-they do some.”
Powerful stuff; and it took me a lifetime to grasp the significance of it’s message. I guess the student just wasn’t ready for the lesson. Reading your story Jeremy gave me pause; reminding me of that lesson once again that we shouldn’t let the things we want make us forget the things we have.
These moments are of course, fleeting, vanquished after the next distraction; but for now they’re where the past and the future cease to exist
And what remains are these rare moments we can share as human beings; the ones that do matter and then it’s left to us to find a value above all price for the smallest events in our daily lives. Coffee is smelling better and better everyday…
Erik Falentijn April 16, 2014 at 10:57 am Jeremy, I would like to thank you for your clear words. They humble me and made me realize that it’s time to stop playing roles of any kind.
For many years I have been on the lookout for a group that can organize into an efficient cooperative that can help heal the collective hardwired trauma that our animal past has inflicted upon the physical and mental system, as well as helping to heal the projections of that trauma that we now recognize as an organzation of predatory ‘elite’ (a strange word for such an ethically and empathically deprived group)
I too have stopped supporting the parasytic tendencies of both the inner and outer system. Initially that left me somewhat isolated, but I always felt the urge to share our insights about the inner and outer systems of control and seperation.
Thank you JC, for providing the platform and energy to initiate such an exchange of living knowledge and perhaps a synchronization of focus and effort.