May 21 10:47 PM [poppy3] man i told ya'll not to get caught up in all the misdirection rhetoric being published and we did a call this evening to help you prevent that and i come back from a huge victory and here all of you are right in the middle of trying to justify a bunch of malarkey.
Just like the first post above sdar wouldn't even let maliki's crew in the door to discuss anything. I told ya'll he and the fab five haven't and won't listen to him any more he blew his chances on the 13th of this month when he didn't implement one of the nine. Case over . Stop confusing all the issues?? Poppy3
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May 21 10:47 PM [DOUBLE B] hurricane That article was posted at almost midnight Iraq time.
May 21 10:48 PM [Gillibeaux12] Thanks poppy
May 21 10:50 PM [BGG] Poppy and I talked about this before the call - there will be a lot of back and forth in the media - but it won't take a week (to get out in the open). It will be lots tougher to "read" the news coming up.
May 21 10:50 PM [BGG] Lots tougher
May 21 10:51 PM [BGG] and it won't take a week...
May 21 10:54 PM [mammat] BGG Are you thinking that there was not an assassination BGG?
May 21 10:55 PM [BGG] mammat - lets wait and see.
May 21 10:56 PM [mammat] BGG ok...I think the headline sounded like Mutlaq....the article sounded like one of his delegation
May 21 10:56 PM [Templejc] Assassination? Who...when...where?
May 21 10:57 PM [mammat] Templejc not sure yet friend....not sure
May 21 10:57 PM [BGG] I also think this is just as serious as I've been saying with all this "jackassery" going on. Attempted kidnappings, assinations...Maliki needs to take the immunity and get out of Dodge!!
May 21 10:57 PM [Templejc] An article? On call :)
May 21 10:57 PM [DOUBLE B] yeah, probably just some employee
May 21 10:58 PM [Templejc] Cell
May 21 10:58 PM [BGG] DOUBLE B - but who was it aimed at??
May 21 10:58 PM [mammat] BGG You know I think Mailiki's philosophy might be, "If you can't beat them, kill them" Not good.
May 21 10:58 PM [mammat] BGG exactly
May 21 10:59 PM [BGG] That's the real question...
May 21 10:59 PM [DOUBLE B] I just posted what I saw.
May 21 10:59 PM [DOUBLE B] Might have been the Chauffer
May 21 10:59 PM [mammat] DOUBLE B good post BB
May 21 11:00 PM [mammat] It shows how real and heated the situation has become
May 21 11:02 PM [BGG] This s'more tastes like campfire lol
May 21 11:02 PM [mammat] lol
May 21 11:02 PM [BGG] someone applied the 10 sec rule to my food lol
May 21 11:09 PM [tampadinar] assassinated Rashid tribe flames Zaidan.....sounds like Zaidan got assassinated to me
May 21 11:12 PM [DOUBLE B] leader of the Front National Dialogue led by Saleh al-Mutlaq in
May 21 11:12 PM [tampadinar] right
May 21 11:12 PM [DOUBLE B] Sayyed Abdul Aziz al-Hakim (Arabic: سید عبد العزيز الحكيم) (1953 - August 26, 2009) was an Iraqi theologian and politician and the leader of Islamic Supreme Council of Iraq, a party that enjoys approximately 5% support in the Iraqi Council of Representatives.
May 21 11:13 PM [DOUBLE B] probably just a bunch of smoke
May 21 11:14 PM [tampadinar] or could be a warning to mutlag
May 21 11:28 PM [poppy3] Do you think that we will see the VND rv before the Dinar? A lot of people are saying that. I do not think the IMF would let it happen, because of the double dipping that would happen.
The imf can't control it at this point they approved the vn rv last month but it was supposed to go in the same basket with iraq but china is pushing them to go on their own. China now owns control of v/n's major bankings systems.
I talk tonight with a major bank president from v/n and he said it is true they are ready to go and they will not give IRAQ much more time to complete their deal and if they don't they have approval to go.
The double dipping makes no differents to either because they know to the penny how much is out and in circulation. It should put even more pressure on Iraq to get-r-done. POPPY3
In a message dated 5/21/2012 9:59:50 P.M. Central Daylight Time
May 21 11:30 PM [poppy3] boy thats got my blood fired up. If that don't light your fire your woods wet. Poppy3
May 21 11:33 PM [shalone] that would be totally amazing if the VND were to revalue before the IQD
May 21 11:34 PM [shalone] but I am very doubtful, for the reasons Poppy3 described, where there is a higher power preventing it from happening
May 21 11:34 PM [shalone] so that there is no double dipping
May 21 11:35 PM [gigi2twins] All the skeptics and scam Sayers would be fighting to buy dinar
May 21 11:35 PM [shalone] I also really do wonder if Iraq really gives a hoot about the double dipping problem.
May 21 11:36 PM [shalone] well, they say that wouldn't be a problem, because Iraq has accounted for all of the outstanding IQD, so it doesn't really matter whos hands the IQD is in.
May 21 11:46 PM [shalone] one interesting twist amongst some of the gurus is that everything is done with regards to the RV being ready to go, they are just waiting for the government to be fully formed.
May 21 11:48 PM [shalone] so once the government is fully-formed, the thinking is that the RV would happen immediately aftewards.
May 21 11:48 PM [shalone] since all the planning and preparations are complete.
May 21 11:48 PM [poppy3] guys i will only say this about the v/n dong deal it can happen ? I have gotten the report today and last night from three peeps. Do i think they will no at this time i think they are letting iraq know they are serious and have the power to do so in their hand and could cost iraq much more very fast. Poppy3
May 21 11:49 PM [MTDinar] poppy3 sounds like a great motivator to me....
May 21 11:50 PM [shalone] poppy3 who really knows what kind of pressure would make any difference with Iraq, since they have been under a great deal of pressure in the past
May 21 11:51 PM [poppy3] many peeps on my list hold dong as well and we have discussed this many times and if this takes place i will more than double the dinar i am holding and i am sure most if not all will also. Poppy3
May 21 11:51 PM [shalone] and it didn't seem to make any difference. I personally think they hate anyone giving them any kind of pressure, almost to the point they rebel against it
May 21 11:51 PM [shalone] poppy3 I sure hope you are right
May 21 11:51 PM [poppy3] shalone but this time it is financial pressure and it is for real and they know it. Poppy3
May 21 11:52 PM [shalone] poppy3 makes sense to me, better than any other theory out there
May 21 11:52 PM [poppy3] ok queen is calling i got to go. Talk tomorrow. Poppy3
May 21 11:52 PM [shalone] i bought enough VND to make a difference
May 21 11:52 PM [shalone] poppy3 take care, and have a good night
May 21 11:53 PM [tampadinar] poppy3 but if Iraq already has accounted for all IQD outside Iraq would they care ifanyone double dips anyway? It would just be re shuffling the deck and just move the dinar from one pocket to the other.
May 21 11:56 PM [shalone] i think the IMF might care, but I doubt anyone else would
May 21 11:59 PM [CoolSpot] my belief has always been that Iraq stands alone due to the stand by credit arrangements that the IMF have with Iraq. And the said tariffs are a part of that arrangemnet as well. I have had some experience with this. When you enter into such arrangement with the IMF, they call the shots until the IMF loans are repaid.
May 22 12:14 AM [jeffusa] yada go VND I'm ready
May 22 12:16 AM [yada] lol,,I will be tomorrow,,,worth the time for a few pennies
May 22 12:16 AM [yada] any estimates for the RV of dong?
May 22 12:17 AM [jeffusa] yada RK mentioned 1 to 1... I never believed that... I would gladly take 10 cents
May 22 12:18 AM [yada] think poppy stated .03 to .06,,
May 22 12:19 AM [yada] never realized how much that can be when buying in Millions
May 22 12:21 AM [jeffusa] yada I would love to have it a nickel