[redhead1] It is about 5pm in Iraq - correct - have a strong feeling we could be seeing our RV anytime - nothing to base it on except we need it so badly
[~healthy3] redhead1 I like your thinking. I will take an rv any time from now to the end of Dec.2012
[~healthy3] As the year is nearing to it's end, I really pray that we see the end to this investment. It has been exciting, a great history class, a wonderful way to meet so many intelligent and loving people but, I am ready to move on to the next phase of my life.
[redhead1 we are at a time where it could happen momentairly (I hate ASN) - I really do expect to see it in the next few days - and I am prepared for it - I hope our doubters at least have written instructions because the rest of his will be to crazy to think.
[imperium] As much as I hate to consider it, I can't imagine at this point that "they" will allow any cashing- in in the 2012 tax season. I'm afraid it's true they are awaiting the new 2013 tax laws.
[ivy10] imperium gm looks like it for sure.
[redhead1] imperium - I thought we had someone post that it is to late for them to tax us for 2013 because the tax laws are already written - that our tax would come in 2014 - and if China pulls the strings on this RV - China wants it in 2012.
[2012jesus] imperium i dont think its about taxes for us until we start making money on our investments
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[imperium] ... and China misses out on our Christmas sale season.
[jamajacks] imperium True, there is only 5 or so banking days left in this year so they have waited long enough to stall the CE.
[imperium] 2012jesus I think you missed what I said.Don't you think it's worth it for 'them' to wait another 5 days in order to gain MORE in tax revenues when we RV.
[Readynow] redhead1 "they" could even pass the laws in June 2013 and make them effective for Jan. 1, 2013.--6 months "earlier"
[redhead1] Readynow -- they could - but remember at this time it is a Currency Exchange - and we are not sure how it would be treated - if the rumors are true about Congress and their friends owning so much dinar - it is not going to happen as a capital gains tax.
[jamajacks] imperium Yes, they can let it pop but CE appointments not until after the first is what I was referring to.
[imperium] "They" haVE EVERYTHING TO GAIN AND NOTHING TO LOSE by holding off til 2013. The Bush tax laws expire in Jan. 1st.
[ivy10] redhead1 I think you are right.
[redhead1] jamajacks - that theory I believe
[Readynow] redhead1 that is true and that is what I am really praying for
[imperium] redhead1 the IRS codes state that any 'currency exchange" that results in a gain of $200 or more has a tax liability.
[jamajacks] redhead1 We will never know the loophole they have conjered to protect themselves come CE time, we won't see them!
[vic406] Let's hope they stick with the original presidential order cash is cash Max 15 % tax
[redhead1] We will probably see Obama take a softer stand on taxes when he returns because he knows this RV is coming to eliminate our national debt as the US holds a very large amount of dinar to apply toward the national debt - and he can afford
[Readynow] imperium that IS tax code--I'm hoping for a special ruling
[redhead1] to be more reasonable
[redhead1] vic406 - that seems to be what Okie was saying in his last post
[ivy10] Readynow am praying for that also very hard.
[imperium] redhead1 what makes you think Obama is interested in paying off the debt?
[tooldog] tax doesnt matter to me it will be what it be still more money and the biggest blessing than i can make in a life time AMEN!!!
[2012jesus] imperium after basel III and RV ALL countries willl be debt free ,,,has nothing to do with us
[redhead1] imperium - I do not think he would have any choice since this is going to be a very large public event once it RV's
[Starlight1203] you know he is going to take all credit for paying off the debt ......if that happens
[imperium] 2012jesus I pray that info is correct. But so far there's nothing but unsubstantiated internet rumors.
[vic406] Redhead I have that p.o. myself it is very specific but O signed the extension which means he can change it also but if I remember its good till mid Jan
[Readynow] redhead1 don't think it will ever be "public".
[imperium] 2012jesus redhead1 I pray you're both correct.
[redhead1] imperium - we are – lol
[imperium] Why would O sign an order to stop the unlimited FDIC accounts beginning Jan. 1st?
[BLESSME] 2012jesus hello when are we expecting our blessing. Was out yesterday. Can you give me update please?
[2012jesus] imperium that is why all the countries swaped dinar with there money ,,to be debt free
[redhead1] They are doing interviews on CNN about the fiscal cliff - say the president wants it -has not been willing to negotiate and will not compromise on spending cuts - looks like there are agendas that we are not aware of.
[imperium] maybe 'their' going to wait until after the RV and rush on the banks cash out to then determine new tax laws and make them retroactive.
RindsGuy] Good Morning MiG. Anything new?
BOBGETZ6] RindsGuy Hearing good stuff, but nothing rock solid confirmed.
[BOBGETZ6] RindsGuy I don't like to post things, which I hear, not having confirmation.
[BOBGETZ6] RindsGuy My gut says we are there, but my experiences make me wonder.
[MsDiva] Are we still looking for this in Jan or March
[bobbysac] BOBGETZ6 i think with in the next month [jan]
[BOBGETZ6] MsDiva Who knows anymore?.
[bobbysac] MsDiva i know when this happens ,nobody will believe it
MsDiva] bobbysac i wont believe it myself
[bobbysac] MsDiva i will be in shock
BOBGETZ6] When I get the call with the 800# as a code, then I will consider done.
xyz] hmm kick the can down the road .... Stop-Gap Fix Most Likely Outcome of US Fiscal Talks http://www.cnbc.com/id/100337188 Last month's dreams of a "grand bargain" of tax hikes and spending cuts seem long gone and a stop-gap that puts everything off for a while but resolves nothing is now the most promising alternative.
[xyz] "we hope it will reach 4 million barrel per day in 2014." "In 2013, we plan to boost the production to 3, 700, 000 barrel per day," Luaibi concluded http://www.alliraqnews.com/en/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=25218
[xyz] Iraqi Airways receive six modern aircrafts and plans to open new lines http://www.shafaaq.com/en/news/4472-iraqi-airways-receive-six-modern-aircrafts-and-plans-to-open-new-lines.html
[xyz] U.S. Delivers Two Support Ships to Iraq The United States has delivered two support ships to Iraq, which is seeking to boost its fledgling naval capabilities, the U.S. embassy said on Sunday. The two 60-meter offshore supportvessels were delivered by the U.S. navy on December 20, the embassy said. The vessels are "large, multi-purpose, multi-functional ships capable of providing a wide range of support to Iraqi naval operations," it said. http://www.naharnet.com/stories/en/65730-u-s-delivers-two-support-ships-to-iraq
[xyz] Although the year 2012 saw the end of U.S. presence in Iraq, corruption, sectarian violence and political instability continues to hold the country hostage. http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/12/23/256636.html
LATE SATURDAY NIGHT:
[..SweetQueen] GOOD EVENING EVERYONE..... A MESSAGE FROM SOONERFAN62, WE WERE CHATTING A BIT AGO AND HE WANTS ME TO WISH ALL OF YOU A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS HE WILL BE IN CHAT WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT.
Flashing) Summary of the radio program from the biggest dinar dealer in pr: Talabani's health will not affect the rv, Iraq has increased its gold reserve 4 times during the three period ended Oct 2012 in preparation for the rv (they should increase it more during Nov and Dec), Iraq found a beach of gold, cbi governor turki has a date and a date for the rv, the rv should be any moment now and needed to be done at the beginning of the year,
Shabibi was holding up the increase in value of the dinar, un instructed the u s a ambassador to review the pending contracts in order to ensure everything is ok to release iraq from ch 7 and they expect the release on or before the expiration of the coordinator post which is Dec. 31, release from ch is not needed to rv, he said the internal rate will be low and his partner said that at least we will see a ri in USA, they have photo of the lower iqd denom.
flashing] ck this article which confirmed on e of the thing the dealer said: http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeek/1356098400.php
xyz] clintonya sorry took a little long - http://www.bdlive.co.za/world/africa/2012/11/25/zambia-zeroes-in-on-new-banknotes
findmoney] Hey folks. I guess it looks as if everyone now just doesnt have a clue as to what will happen and when. Including me . I really thought we would at least see something by now. I have no idea how they are keeping the financial markets afloat anymore when the tape roll has run out ,And it has as there is no money velocity coming into the markets for over a month. It just doesn’t make sense. I guess not much does anymore
findmoney] I can only dechiper that the banks are borrowing near 0% money from the central banks and pumping the markets and getting ready for the dump when it implodes like it did in 1929
findmoney] All central banks and countries are hoarding gold. What does that tell you. Gold reserves to back their currencies or they become worthless to others in trade
findmoney] Everyone ( Major countries) except the ME countries we bully is making trade deals amongst themselves in their own currencies without using the US dollar now
[heartfelt]. Texas Mama Tonight would be a wonderful night for an RV since "never a rv on the weekend!!!"
[SWFloridaGuy] heartfelt Yeah especially since that's not true. If you look at the history of large currency appreciation shocks, they have occured during the weekend (our time).
heartfelt] SWFloridaGuy correct... I sure think it could be good timing but next weekend the same. I'll take either ..just get it done!!
[SWFloridaGuy] Hey everyone keeps talking about Dodd Frank but banks are for poor people only. Millionaires do not have bank accounts (Except one with $100,000.00 USD or less for their personal expenses). They have brokerage accounts and they invest their millions in Mutual Funds, Hedge Funds, Stocks, Options, ETFs, REITs and other investment. This is another case of Dinar Goggles I'm afraid. Doesn't mean we're not in a good spot though.
[heartfelt] SWFloridaGuy I believe around 6 mos ago BWM discussed this too. I will not be putting much at all in banks...and allow the interest off my investments to feed the account.
[wheezer2] Jeff flashing.....do ya'll have ANY idea what PTB's might be waiting for?
flashing] wheezer2 imo they need to have a formal agreement regarding border issues. imo it is done
WCW] Go Debtarheelgirl well i want eat crow on this one NOO TAX YES
WCW] BocaLinda read in recaps
[BocaLinda] WCWokay will do. B RB
[telemar59] WCW the VND is a tradeable currency but the IQD is not tradeable. A tax implication may result in the revaluation of the IQD.
WCW] telemar59 are u saying the 1st of the year
[WCW] telemar59 thats what i think the hold up is
[telemar59] WCW no I am saying if it RV's anytime there may be taxes on the IQD.
elemar59] WCW I copied and pasted the whole post, I think those will be our banking instructions along with an 800#.
[WCW] telemar59 yes