This is continued from Med & Mailman Chat:
cookmarian: MM17 why are you pleased with the news?
mailman17: THE TROOPS THERE......ARE A GODSEND VERY PLEASED
TBar52: Amen to that
mailman17: ITS NOT SO MUCH WHATS IN THE NEWS AT WHATS NOT THE NEWS TO ME MAKES ME THINK WHAT THEIR NOT TELLING ME
SallyDS: do you believe the articles that explain 'why' they are there?
mailman17: I GO BY PAST NEWS AND FACTS AND COME UP TO CONCLUSIONS THAT SOMETHINGS AMISS IN A GOOD WAY ILLUSION MUST BE DONE BIG TIME HUMONGOUS TIME
THIS MUST APPEAR LIKE IT EITHER IS AN ACCIDENT OR NOT IRAQS FAULT THAT SO MUCH DINAR IS IN THE HANDS OF THE VERY PEOPLE THAT GACE LIVES TO PUT THEM WHERE THEY STAND NOW
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TBar52: In the article about the dozens of C-130's some of the people on board were going to the CBI. Now why was that?
mailman17: AND YES...MALIKI SHOULD BE PISSED HE COULD NOT STOIP THIS NOT SURE.THEY HAVENT CALLED ME YET TO TELL ME..LOL LETS GO BACK 6 MONTHS
guardian: that was in 2003, did the new article say that Tbar
mailman17: JUST FOR ****S AND GRINS
TBar52: As you would say "the things that make you go hmmm"
mailman17: REPEATEDLY SHABS HAS STATED HIS INTENTIONS HE HAS ALSO STATED HIS INTENTION FOR THE 1ST OF THE YEAR ALONG WITH SALEH CHIMING IN HERE AND THERE TO CONFUSE EVERYONE...INCLUDING HIMSELF I THINK THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN
SallyDS: and he has international backing, I believe
mailman17: YES HE IS FINE I CAN SEE WHY THEY WOULDNT WANT TO COME OUT MID YEAR
38CABO: fine as frog hair
mailman17: IT MAKES SENSE TO COME IN ON THE FIRST OF JAN HE HAS ALSO STATED HE IS DONE READY SO ENTER JABARI A NOBODY
SallyDS: welll, not quite
mailman17: AND A PRESS RELEASE FROM THE CBI NOT SHABS NOT EVEN THE CLOWN SALLY...HE IS NO ONE IN THE RV SHABS HAS TOTAL CONTROL HE IS A MEMBER OF A COMMITTEE
SallyDS: agree to that
mailman17: NOTHING MORE A PRESS RELEASE STATING THEIR INTENTIONS TO GO TO JULY YEAH...OK BEEN IN THIS TOO LONG
mailman17: THAT IS MY TAKE OUR KEY IS THAT MEETING THE NATIONAL CONFERENCE IF THEY CAN GET DONE WHAT I THINK THEY HAVE PLANNED INCLUDING THE ESCORT OUT OF MALIKI THEN JAN 1 IS INDEED THE NEXT TARGET DATE
SallyDS: when is that scheduled?
cookmarian: MM as Shabs has total control why do they need M gone?
mailman17: NOT SURE IRAN SYRIA AND MAINLY CAUSE HES A JERK SEE I WAS GONNA SWEAR
SallyDS: I agree with the iran and syria reason
38CABO: not you
mailman17: AND THE BIGGEST THORN IN IRAQS PROGRESSION THEY SHOULKD HAVE BEEN DONE WITH THIS IN 2009 SHABS WAS READY HE SAID HE WAS
SallyDS: I don't think that conference will happen UNLESS Maliki is gone
mailman17: BUT HE ALSO KNOWS HE WASNT IN ANY WAY GONNA GIVE THIS TO MALIKI
cookmarian: Do you think the Jan RV hinges on M being gone? Ohhhh now that is interesting
mailman17: SALLY...THAT CONFERENCE IS EITHER MALIKIS PEACE OFFERING AS IN ERBIL OR HIS DEATH SENTENCE
SallyDS: the latter
mailman17: COOK...I TRULY DONT THINK MALIKI WILL BE THERE JAN 1 UNLESS HE FINALLY GIVES THOSE HE PROMISED WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR AND PUTS HIS OWN GREED ASIDE
SallyDS: I think that if Maliki stays around, he will create so much havoc that everything will be slowed to a crawl
mailman17: INCLUDING IRAN
38CABO: to late
mailman17: AGREED THATS WHY I THINK HIM STAYING IS NO LONGER AN OPTION
38CABO: hence the troops
mailman17: AGAIN...GO BACK TO NEWS ARTICLES THE NEW MAN ON THE BLOCK FROM THE NA IS JAFAARI
SallyDS: that maybe why the US has come in 'en force'
mailman17: HE HAS ALREADY TOLD ALLAWI...HES COOL WITH ERBIL THE STATE HAS SAID THEY NO LONGER BACK MALIKI ECT ECT ECT
SallyDS: yea...what's his relationship w Iran?
38CABO: i agree
mailman17: LOTS OF GREAT READING FROM THE PAST FEW MONTHS BUTLER? POOL BOY? WHO CARES...LOL
38CABO: imo they will let maliki serve is term out .. its easier
SallyDS: I think its importaqnt because Iran is Obama's targt
mailman17: WE ON HERE TEND TO FORGET ARTICLES FROM THE PAST THAT PLAY AN VERY IMPORTANT ROLE IN HOW WE FIGURE THINGS OUT TODAY YES
cookmarian: Cabo you have always said that
38CABO: im right so far lol
mailman17: THEY MIGHT...IF ERBIL AND REFOR PAPER IS IMPLEMENTED IN FULL....IMO
cookmarian: Yes you are
mailman17: MALIKI HAS BEEN ON THE EDGE MANY TIMES IN THE PAST
dj51: Did I miss Med's NEWS NEWS NEWS ?
SallyDS: anyone care to commnt on the 2013 budget?
mailman17: AND HE HAS ALWAYS SQUIRRELED HIS WAY OUT AHHH YES I WOULD LETS LOOK AT THAT BUDGET BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY THE SUPPLEMENTARY BUDGET SUPPOSEDLY APPLIED TO 2012 ANYONE SEE IT? THE SUPP ANYONE
SallyDS: cause it isn't around?
mailman17: WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT BUDGET COULD HAVE BEEN FOR
frudie: something is in there they don't want us to see
cookmarian: Starts too late in the year
mailman17: BUT WHAT
mailman17: SUPPS CAN START ANYTIME
mailman17: IT WAS ACTUALLY SUPPOSED TO START IN AUG...YES...IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN
mailman17: AM I RIGHT ON THAT? CANT REMEMBER THE EXACT DATE WHEN THEY ANNOUNCED IT ANYWAY ITS GONE UP IN SMOKE APPARENTLY NOT NEEDED BUT IN LIEU OF WHAT THEY TOLD US IT WAS FOR WHAT WAS IT REALLY FOR THE MINITRIES HAD THEIR MONEY *** NO ONE DID ANYTHING ANYWAY STILL NO ELECTRIC WATER ECT SO WHY A SUPP? INFRASTRUCTURE? **** NO YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO BUILD THINGS FOR THAT
SallyDS: not in Iraq! they stal th money first!
mailman17: THEN THEY COME OUT WITH THE 2013 BUT NO FACTS TO THE ALLOCATIONS WE KNOW THE AMOUNT WE ALSO KNOW THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO CARRY A 20% DEFICIT BASED ON 90 BUCKS A BARREL YET NO SIGN AGAIN WHY? ITS READY WHY NOT SHOW IT
SallyDS: because oil/gas not settled?
frudie: they may want to get M out!
mailman17: OIL PRODUCTION MORE THAN COVERS IT
38CABO: the only thing they have have not told us is ... what they are tying the rate to
mailman17: NOT TO MENTION A SURPLUS FROM THE 2012
mailman17: BINGO 38
38CABO: and i dont hink .00086 was by accident
mailman17: SEE HOW ARTICLES FROM THE PAST ARE SO VITAL IT WAS NOT AN ACCIDENT
38CABO: he worked it down
SallyDS: are you saying they are arguing over the rate?
mailman17: I HAVE ALWAYS SAID TO LOOK AT THIS AS A BIG PUZZLE OR WINDOW NO
38CABO: it may move a little at the end
mailman17: THEY DONT WANT PARTICULARS TIED TO THAT BUDGET TO MAKE PRINT
38CABO: depending on the value of the dollar
mailman17: THAT TOO
38CABO: but he is close
SallyDS: well...if that is true 17, that is saying that they won't release the budget until after shabs takes whatevr action he is planning....right?
mailman17: LIKE I SAID...ONE OR TWO ARTICLES CAN COME OUT AND BE A NEGATIVE NILLY....BUT ITS THE WHOLE PICTURE THAT I AM EXCITED ABOUT.... I THINK IT MIGHT BE TIED INTO THAT SALLY
WHAT BETTER WAY TO ENACT A HUGE BUDGET THAN TO MAKE IT EFFECTIVE THE SAME DAY A NEW RATE TAKES EFFECT
SallyDS: humm. so now Iam trying to figure the logic of Jabourri's position of a July date
mailman17: THEY HAVE NEVER GOTTEN A BUDGET OFF THE GROUND AS PLANNED AGAIN SALLY...HE IS A NOBODY...HE MAY EVEN BE SALEHS BROTHER LOL HE MAY INDEED GO AFTER THOSE UNDER SHABS AND THE BANKS INVOLVED BUT IN NO WAY WILL SHABS BE TIED INTO THIS AND REMOVED...IMO NUJAFI WILL NOT ALLOW IT THE IMF WILL NOT ALLOW IT AND THE US WILL NOT ALLOW IT
38CABO: i agree
SallyDS: I agree with that....
38CABO: is a joke
mailman17: ANYWAY JUST WANTED TO STOP IN AND HOPEFULLY GIVE YOU MY TAKE ON WHAT IS HAPPENING....AND HOPE IT PUTS SOME OF YOU AT REST AS TO WHERE I THINK,,,,IMO....WE STAND I THINK WE STAND GREAT
frudie: yes it helped, love hearing your side of things as well as Meds!
SallyDS: I agre with your analysis....I think we are in great shape!
38CABO: better than ever
SallyDS: and thanks for stopping by!
mailman17: ALL IT TAKES IS 1 OR 2 ARTICLES TO BUM YOU OUT YVW
cookmarian: Yes TY very insightful and helpful
munizd02: sorry got in late but would like to ask is this some of the of the news you were wanting to share with us all and excited about cause this does sound great to me
cookmarian: Makes alot of since
Tennessee Gamble: Jabourri knows shabs plan and is now trying to throw the invester off by throwing out July 2013, (smoke, damage contro), Lookout Jan 2013 Bam. Maybe
cookmarian: Your news is right in line with Med's. Shabs is fine, everything is still lined up
SallyDS: I think you are almost right...I think NA is trying to get control of the cbi....just a different way
cookmarian: So long as they RV and pay me I don't care
mailman17: MUNIZ...NO..THE NEWS I WILL BREAK ON YOU GUYS IS A PERSONAL VENDETTA I HAVE AND ITS BEEN ON GOING FOR A FEW YEARS...I WILL....HAVE THE LAST WORD(6)
SallyDS: MED said early on tonight that Shabs might be arrested and tried for corruption...sounds like one of those 'bad plans' that Maliki would try...
mailman17: SURE DOES
munizd02: oh ok sounds intresting
38CABO: you are going after bird bird
mailman17: BIGGER... MY ARCH NEMISIS NO NAMES
38CABO: big bird
mailman17: EXSPOSING FACTS WILL BE MY REWARD
Polarbear s: Dang-it I log into the church site to do some work and miss Med and almost miss MM17 Hey buddy
mailman17: HEY PAL...HEY PB,,,NOT TO CUT YOU SHORT...BUT GOTTA RUN... LATER GANG
Polarbear: is it time to cash in yet
mailman17: STAY FOCUSED AND POSITIVE
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mailman17 came back
mailman17 (20:52:38): ONE MORE THING I WANNA HAVE YOU GUYS CHEW ON FOR THOUGHT
AND THINK ABOUT THIS HARD SHABS WAS PUT IN PLACE BY THE COALITION WITH BACKING FROM THE UN...THE IMF AND THE US HE AND THEY HAD A PLAN FOR IRAQ THAT IS WHY THE CBI WAS MADE AUTONOMOUS BECAUSE THEY KNEW ALONG THIS RIDE AND ESPECIALLY AT THE END THERE WOULD BE THOSE WHO DO NOT WANT THIS TO HAPPEN
THERE WOULD BE THOSE WHO WERE SO ANGRY AT THE WEST....THAT THEY NEVER THOUGHT OF THEM POSSIBLE GAINING FROM THIS IS UNTHINKIABLE RESERVES...I AM REFERRING TO ALONG WITH AN RV AND THROUGH THE YEARS WE HAVE SEEN SHABS TAKE SHOTS AND HE IS STILL THERE AND HE WILL BE THERE AT THE END AS PLANNED
DO NOT TAKE ANY CREDENCE AS TO THE ATTACKS ON HIM AT THIS POINT MOST LIKELY THEYA ALSO WERE ANTICIPATED A LAST DITCH EFFORT IN A WAY BY THOSE NOT WANTING IRAQ TO SUCCEED OR THOSE NOT WANTING THE COUNTRIES WHO HELPED IRAQ TO GET AT THIS STAGE
THE CBI WILL BE CLEANED OUT AS WILL THE BANKS INVOLVED NOW THINK WHO SUFFERS FROM THIS THE POLITICIANS INVOLVED SO WHAT TO DO? GO AFTER SHABS WELL THE BANKING SYSTEM INCLUDING THE CBI MUST CLEAN HOUSE AS BEST THEY CAN GOING INTO AN RV AND ESPECIALLY GOING INTO INFRASTRUCTURE DEALS JUST WANTED TO GET THAT THOUGHT OUT.... LATER