_mailman17 says to (11:22:58): OK...SORRY...MED AND I HAD A VERY LENGTHY CONVERSATION...ALL IS WELL IN DINAR LAND AND AT MEDS NOME...
stlou says to (11:24:10): and how are you in your igloo?
mailman17 says to (11:24:23): FINE..AIR CONDITIONING WORKING GREAT
mailman17 says to (11:25:24): LETS TALK DIANR LOU YOUR THOUGHTS
stlou says to (11:25:37): UNSC meeting?
mailman17 says to (11:25:47): YEP..OUT OF THE BLUE
stlou says to (11:25:54): state of Iraq..
seems to me you cannot satisfy the outstanding issues with Kuwait with no Kuwaiti government..imo
but if you agree to certain conditions set by the UNSC..
to be completed by a certain timeframe..
and signed in blood with a letter from your momma
then they may cut them some slack..
and a postive report by your local UN rep may go along way here considering the state of world affairs.. good think not a local union rep..
mailman17 says to (11:29:39): HANG ON PHONE OK..SORRY LOU..BACK
YES I AGREE 100%
THIS IS THE UN TELLING IRAQ...BEFORE YOU MEET WITH O....THIS IS WHERE YOU STAND
stlou says to (11:31:38): yup...
Read More Link on Right
_mailman17 says to (11:31:46): YOU HAVE 3 SANCTIONS LEFT...NONE OF WHICH HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE RV OR INFRASTRUCTURE
stlou says to (11:31:53): but if you think about it..
mailman17 says to (11:32:11): YOU HAVE MET OUR DEMANDS...PENDING SECURITY BVEING DONE
stlou says to (11:32:33): the Kuwaiti government corruption scandal may have worked in our favor
mailman17 says to (11:32:52): I ALSO THINK THE HCL WILL BE AMONG THE 31 BILLS PASSED HENCE THE KURDS BEING SO PASSIVE AND THE EXXON DEAL MUM YES..I AGREE
stlou says to (11:33:06): I think so too.. on your analagy
mailman17 says to (11:33:20): YOUR SOKIND...LOL
stlou says to (11:33:29): I'm in a good mood..
mailman17 says to (11:33:33): I SEE LOL
I TOLD MED ON THE PHONE..I TRULY DONT SEE THIS GOING PAST EOM...EVEN THOUGH SONNYS CONTACT SAYS EARLY JAN
stlou says to (11:34:31): i read sonny's comments..
mailman17 says to (11:34:39): ME TOO
stlou says to (11:34:51): to me there are many factors supporting his statements..
mailman17 says to (11:34:56): YES BUT
stlou says to (11:35:09): where the heck are we getting the money to loan the european union..
mailman17 says to (11:35:11): THINK BUDGET THAT TOO
stlou says to (11:35:25): obama taking a 17 day vacation during a budget crisis
mailman17 says to (11:35:40): THERES NO WAY THE IMF WILL ALLOW IRAQ TO GO INTO A DEFICIT
stlou says to (11:35:42): seems to me there would be too much political fallout from that..unless
mailman17 says to (11:35:54): PLANS HAVE BEEN MADE?
stlou says to (11:36:10): yes..I read they re-adjusted their budget and it was passed by a council
mailman17 says to (11:36:15): YEP ALL IS GOOD OLD FRIEND TICK FRIGGIN TOCK
ANYONE ELSE WANNA CHIME IN WITH YOUR THOUGHTS?...PLEASE JOIN IN..
stlou says to (11:37:13): and that there seems to be something hidden in the shadows that will play into the european bailout that has not been revealed to the world my friend..and for obvious reasons
mailman17 says to (11:37:19): BINGO HIDDEN
stlou says to (11:37:37): they do not want speculators robbing Iraq blind on this
mailman17 says to (11:37:48): COME ON...247 PEEPS ON...GIMME YOUR THOUGHTS
NO THEY DONT
mailman17 says to (11:38:27): ANYONE ?..JOIN IN..WE ARE FRIENDLY
stlou says to (11:38:42): this cr@p is going to come to a head..
mailman17 says to (11:39:08): BAM
stlou says to (11:39:24): and I'm very interested if UNSC gives Iraq the green light considering the Kuwaiti situation.. if they do.. the lid blows off quickly..
stlou says to (11:39:43): imo
mailman17 says to (11:39:45): I THINK THATS JUST ONE OF THE THINGS THEY ARE DISCUSSING
THE OTHER BEING THE US INVOVEMNET FOR TROOP SUPPORT DISGUISED OF COURSE
NOW THE MEETING ON THE 12TH IS PURE ECONOMIC WITH OBAMA
WHICH TELLS ME...SECURITY IS NOT AN ISSUE YES?
stlou says to (11:41:27): which could be a foreshadow as to why he is taking a 17 day vacation..
mailman17 says to (11:41:40): TOUGH JOB HUH...LOL
stlou says to (11:41:52): maybe in O's opinion is that there are no worries..
mailman17 says to (11:41:59):
PISSES ME OFF HE GETS MORE VACATION THAN ME...LOL AS PLANNED?
stlou says to (11:42:15): and he can't get laid off
yankeerv says to (11:42:20): Can I play devils advocate here and say Obama has no clue on economics and taking a vacation is simply what he does during crunch time?
mailman17 says to (11:42:22): ME EITHER...LOL YANK..YOUR RIGHT
stlou says to (11:42:43): don't get me started..
we are treading lightly into the political discussion..
mailman17 says to (11:43:11): WHAT OBAMA HAS TO DO IS GO THROUGH WHATS BEEN LAID OUT FOR YEARS
stlou says to (11:43:14): I am simply tying up the ends into a sequential turn of events
mailman17 says to (11:43:26): HE RALLY HAS NO CHOICE BUT
mailman17 says to (11:43:36): IT BENEFITS THE US GREATLY
TY YANK FOR YOUR INSIGHT
JustaGuy says to (11:44:14): When does their new year start? Wouldn't that be a good time to RV?
yankeerv says to (11:44:15): no insight really - - just lurking and had a loud thought
mailman17 says to (11:44:21): ROCH AND A HARD PALCE...SORTA
stlou says to (11:44:22): 01/01/12
mailman17 says to (11:44:35): THOUGHTS ARE ALWAYS WELCOME JUST...JAN1
JustaGuy says to (11:44:55): they are planning to have the new denoms early 2012 and the RV comes first
mailman17 says to (11:45:20): HENCE THEIR BUDGET CANNOT EXCEED AND WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO GO FORTH WITHOUT THEM KNOWING SOMETHING
YES THEY DO JUST AND WE ALREADY KNOW THE RATE 86 PER SHABS
THINK OF IT THIS WAY
Aunt Gwennie says to (11:46:18): 5.63 NOT
mailman17 says to (11:46:26): THE AVERAGE IRAQI IS CLUELESS LITERALLY
YOU CANT FORCE NEW DENOMS AND AN RV AT THE SAME TIME
CONFUSION AND BLACK MARKET WOULD CONSUME
HENCE THE RV FIRST AND INTRODUCTION OF THE NES BILLS LATER NEW
JustaGuy says to (11:47:29): you don't need the new denoms until you RV
mailman17 says to (11:47:34): MAKE SENSE? NO
yankeerv says to (11:47:46): hard for them to come out of the stone age when the average Iraqi citizen had been kept from mass media and education for so long.
mailman17 says to (11:47:58): DONT FORGET...14 DENOMINATIONS WERE PRINTED IN 2003
THEY WILL USE WHAT THE CBI HAS...WHICH WILL COVER A 1-1....THEN INTRODUCE THE NEW DWNOMS IN EARLY 2012 YES..I AGREE YANK...
yankeerv says to (11:48:56): I have to believe the new denoms are not an issue if an RV was supposed to actually happen - - when, over a year ago now? - - - smaller denoms must be already printed and stored somewhere
mailman17 says to (11:48:58): BUT THIS MUST COME DOWN THE WAY IT WAS LAID OUT...THE AVERAGE IRAQI WILL ADJUST SOUD GOOD? SOUND
YOUR ONLY TALKING 4 MONTHS MINIMUN FOR THEM TO ADJUST
ALSO REMEMBER THAT IRAQS WHOLE ECONOMY IS BASED ON THE VALUE OG THE US DOLLAR
HENCE A 1-1 AND NOT 8 BUCKS...LOL
YANK...THEY WERE PRINTED AND HAVE BEEN IN STORAGE FOR 8 YEARS
WHICH IS WHY THEY WERE ACCOUNTED FOR IN IRAQS M2 WAITING FOR THIS DAY
JustaGuy says to (11:53:45): So you think they will use the dinars they have now after the RV and then phase in the new ones with the Kurds language on them?
yankeerv says to (11:54:01): Exactly MM. That is why I believe this bill we are waiting for them to complete about printing of the new denoms is a smokescreen
mailman17 says to (11:54:02): THEY TOOK LITTLE MONETARY VALUE IN IRAQS M2
YES JUST NO..NOT A SMOKESCREEN SO MUCH AS TO APPEASE THE KURDS
AND GIVE THEM TIME TO TURN IN EDUCATION IS THE KEY
LOOK AT WHAT KUWAIT DID IN THEIR REPRINTS IT WILL SINK IN GIVING TIME
NOW I SAY REPRINTS CAUSE THEY DID IT 3 TIMES'
yankeerv says to (11:56:29): true on appeasing the Kirds, but certainly not necessary for a revalue and issuance of already printed but not circulated currency
mailman17 says to (11:56:35): BUT THE VALUE NEVER CHANGED
NECESSARRY IF YOU MUST TAKE THE LARGE NOTES OUT OF EXISTANCE
THEY MUST GET TO A CUURENCY NORMAL TO EVERY DAY LIFE...AND THE 25000 NOTE AINT GONNA DO IT OR THE 10000 OR 5000 OR 1000
THEY MUST BE ON A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD WITH THE NEIGHBORS
yankeerv says to (11:58:49): When a friend first presented this to me in July of 09, I told him I believed at that time that until Chap 7 is done, the Dinar won't revalue. That was with only two days of research. I still believe this to be true because chap 7 encompases many things
mailman17 says to (11:59:17): NOPE CHAP 7 HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE RV
NEVER HAS\ THATS NOT SAYING THAT 7 ISNT IN IRAQS NEAR FUTURE
IT IS EVERY SANCTION REGARDING THE RV IS LIFTED TRADE
Aunt Gwennie says to (12:00:53): in working with companies outside of Iraq....is the chapter 7 deal
yankeerv says to (12:00:54): true but they are still considered a threat and as such, a government that can't be trusted
mailman17 says to (12:01:01): THAT IS THE KEY...TO BE ABLE TO TRADE GLOBALLY
THAT TOO WILL PASS
yankeerv says to (12:01:35): that becomes part of the strength of the currency - - a currency is only as strong as the government that backs it.
Aunt Gwennie says to (12:01:47): correct
mailman17 says to (12:01:48): IF THEY WERE A THREAT.....WOULD EXXON OR BP OR SHELL OR CATTIPILLAR BE THER EIN CONTRACTS?
Aunt Gwennie says to (12:02:12): it that not pending mm17
mailman17 says to (12:02:21): IF THEY WERE A THREAT....THESE CMPANIES OWULDNT BE THER
YES IT IS GWENNIE BUT TONS OF OIL CONTRACTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN SIGNED
JustaGuy says to (12:03:09): Can they trade globally while under ch 7 or are they limited in what they can buy?
mailman17 says to (12:03:19): IRAQS CHAP 7 DOES NOT LIMIT THEMN ANYMORE
THEY CANT BUT CAUSE THEY DONT HAVE A TRADEABLE CURRENCY
yankeerv says to (12:03:47): of course they would, be there. Business accepts risk for profits. That is the nature of business. Up until now, we had our military there to protect them from the failing of the Iraqi govt
mailman17 says to (12:03:48): HENCE RV AND OUR MILITARY WILL STILL BE THERE
stlou says to (12:04:31): limited..
yankeerv says to (12:04:48): I know MM. The "removal" of our military is only for the news to report a "success" of a campaign promise
mailman17 says to (12:05:28): AND IF THERE WERE ANY STIPULATIONS WITH THE UN REGARDING COMPANIES TRADING OR MAKING DEALS WITH A NATION THAT WAS NOT DEEMED SAFE...THOSE DEALS WOULD NOT BE IN PLACE...YET THEY ARE
THE REMOVAL OF OUR MILITARY MEANS ONLY ONE THING...IRAQ CAN NOW PUFF THEIR CHEST OUT
stlou says to (12:06:15): and they are chomping at the bit..
mailman17 says to (12:06:21): THE US IS NOLONGER THEIR WATCHDOG YES THEY ARE
yankeerv says to (12:06:33): just offering come counterpoint thoughts. Didn't mean to make the bee hive mad. gotta get some work done. It is always a pleasure to see you chatting MM
mailman17 says to (12:06:44): NO PROBLEM YANK GOTTA THINK OF THE BIG PIVTURE THOUGH
PICTURE IRAQ WILL ASCEND INTO TRADE WITH THE WORLD
AND THEY WILL BE A MONSTER
AND AS LONG AS THE US HAS PEOPLE THERE...THEY ARE NO LONGER A THREAT
THEY WILL BE WATCHED CLOSELY
THEY HAVE A GOLD MINE...THEIR STUPID...BUT NO THAT STUPID
AND THEIR RV MEANS A GREAT DEAL TO ALL INVOLVED AS PALNNED
PLANNED OK...GONNA NAP...LOL BBL
JustaGuy says to (12:09:48): Thanks MM - good chat
mailman17 says to (12:09:58): TY JUST FOR CHIMING IN
I SOMETIMES HATE JUST TO SEE ME AND ST LOU OR MED THE ONLY ONES TYPING...LOL
TY LATER GANG