IF ANYONE IS ON GO READ THIS SEVERAL TIMES I WANT AN OPINION AND TO DISCUSS IT
MED: IT IS IMPORTANT TY
irishbrian: Hi Med I read it about an hour ago. Seems now that the GOI thinks that the constitution allows them to control the monitary policy and that CBI must submit their authority and get permission from the Finance comittee before implementing any changes in the monitary policy?
This an abvious power grab once again by Maliki and quite frankly I am dumpfounded at his brazeness. If he or the GOI gets control of CBI either by twisting the constitution or replacing Shabs with a puppet then I think our goose is cooked!
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_NeonMars: Thank you, irishbrain, you stated it better than I could.
arwen: Yes Well my opinion is didn't they try this once before and lost?
irishbrian: Thanks NM but this is scary stuff, he has had his eye on those reserves for quite some time and if CBI cedes it's control here then as someone already said all confidence in the Dinar will disappear.
I know there is a great deal of wishful thinking on my part here but Shabs had better move smart and fast here to head this AH off at the pass!
dodgerboy: IF this rumor is true, there is no way they get out of chapter 7
arwen: I would tell you if there was a threat like this and I was shabs I would rv now and just say *** you Malaki LIke I said prior did they not try this last year to take control of cbi and they failed
irishbrian: Yes Arwen that is what I meant by smart and FAST!!
arwen: Yes I agree IB
dodgerboy: i can see the UN to get back involved
irishbrian: I really doubt he is going to get away with this one, the whole Iraqi economy rests with Shabs right now can anyone imagine M having control of it....yikes!!!!
arwen: Well I am not a big UN fan so shabs can take total control of this situation and release the rate and exchange it now that stops the whole discussion and people get money and then with that they get power after all the is what M is after isn't he the power
reilly1: kinda makes me wonder if CBI has already wanted this done or tried to implement it and that knuckle head keeps throwing a wrench in the spokes.
irishbrian: I am truly hoping Shabs has already had conversations with the IMF about this?
MED: WHAT RUMOR ARE WE DISCUSSING
arwen: the one you wanted us to talk about
irishbrian: Is it a rumor Med or is the article real?
MED: OF COURSE IT IS REAL
slow: with other posts on here this is a true article. M needs to be stopped. only shabs cando it
JustaGuy: was this written 4 days ago?
irishbrian: OK then we are not discussing any rumor LOL
MED: NO WE ARE NOT THIS WAS BROUGHT UP BEFORE AS A RUMOR BY A MEMBER OF THE LIST SEVERAL WEEKS AGO
arwen: Didn't the govt try to get control of cbi a year or so ago
irishbrian: Yeah well I am sure M has been trying to "back door" this ever since Shabs told him where to go
MED: I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN STRAIGHT UP BUT IF MALIKI GETS CONTROL OF CBI IT IS OVER FOR US HE WILL RAID THE CURRENCY RESERVES AND THE DINAR WILL PLUMMET
irishbrian: I agree he will rape the bank
MED: EVERY BIT OF POSITIVE THAT SHABIBI DID WILL BE GONE IN A HEARTBEAT AS IS IN THIS ARTICLE IT STATES AND THIS WAS NOT BY CBI THAT EVERY INSTITUTION THAT MALIKI CONTROLS HAS FAILED AS IN WATER ELECTRICITY AND ALL OTHERS THEY ARE NAMED IN THE ARTICLE
arwen: I think this will make shabs pull the trigger
MED: NO LOL IT WONT THAT IS NOT SHABIBI HE HAS A PLAN AND NO MATTER WHAT HAS HAPPENED
irishbrian: Surely he cannot do this without full backing from the rest of the GOI and they are not going to give it to him ???
MED: AND IT HAS GOTTEN UGLEY SEE BRIAN ONE THING IS THIS AN APPOINTMENT WHERE HE CAN BE FIRED WITHOUT PARLIAMENT OR DOES HE NEED PARLIAMENT TO BACK IT IF THIS IS TRUE THEN HE IS SOL MALIKI
THAT IS HE COULDNT EVEN GET A VOTE ON MUTLAQ
NOW LAST YEAR ACTUALLY NOT LAST YR IT WAS DEC 2010
irishbrian: Maliki is saying yes the Govt picks the CBI chairman but if the system is like ours where we pick the FED guy but it with advice and consent?
MED: MALIKI GOT A DECISION BY THE FED COURT THAT SAID ALL INDEPENDENT BODIES FALL UNDER THE PM THEN SHABIBI TOLD HIM TO KISS HIS *** NOW THE COUNCIL OF MINISTERS
navionpilot: GM all. Seems that the GOI thinks the CBI has to much power in directing all of Iraqs trading and policy(rv?) at home and the the world. The GOI wants to have more say in what Central Bank policies are.
MED: DOES REPRIMAND CBI CBI DRAFT LAW WAS PUT INTO PLACE BY THE IMF AND WB SO THAT WHAT WILL HAPPEN CANT HAPPEN THAT MALIKI CANT DRIVE UP TO CBI WITH A FLEET OF UNITED VAN LINES AND TAKE ALL THE MONEY OUT OF THE VAULTS AS WAS DONE TO CBI IN THE 2ND WAR
THEY TOOK OUT OVER 960 MILLION IN USD THE TWO SONS ON A NOTE WRITTEN ON A NAPKIN
irishbrian: How much more is it going to take before these goons recognize M is a dangerous dictator who will destroy all and get him out of there??
MED: BRIAN IT IS THE KURDS WHO ARE HOLDING THIS UP YOU HAVE THE LIST BUT ON EVERY ARTICLE ON KBC THEY STATE THEY HAVE NO INTEREST IN REMOVING MALIKI
irishbrian: For goodness sakes it is THEIR agreement that put him in office and it is RHEIR agreement he first kicked to the curb so why continue to back him?
navionpilot: I think M allows the Kurds to sell oil to Iran
arwen: I know IB I don't get it I realize we don't think like they do THANK GOD but common sense would tell you that M is just for himself and no one else
irishbrian: I can't get my mind around these ***** they truly seem to have a death wish
guardian: when Barzani went to the U.S. recently he discussed what a dictator Maliki is
MED: I WAS TALKING TO A MEMBER TODAY
arwen: who knows what the heck they think but I mean they are truly not getting it with M for sure
MED: AND I SAID THAT EVERY DECISION THAT THE KBC HAS MADE HAS BEEN HURTFUL TO THE IRAQ THAT THE SUNNI'S AND SHIITES LIVE IN
ALSO YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER
irishbrian: A little revenge perhaps?
MED: BARZANI AND THE KBC ARE NOT THE SAME BARZANI DOES NOT SPEAK FOR THE KBC HE SPEAKS FOR KURDISTAN KBC SPEAKS FOR PARLIAMENT
guardian: ok ty
MED: NOW ONE OTHER ISSUE I DONT KNOW IF I FINISHED THE COUNCIL OF MINISTERS REPRESENT PARLIAMENT ALL THEY ASKED IS THAT THEY BE INFORMED OF WHAT POLICY CHANGES OR DIRECTIONS CBI IS DOING THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED MAJOR
AND ACCORDING TO THE CONSTITUTION THAT IS ACCURATE
NOW HERE IS THE PROBLEM THERE IS A CBI LAW AND THAT LAW CONTRADICTS THE CONSTITUTION
BUT AS IN THE U.S. IF A TREATY OR EVEN A WEAPONS CONTROL ISSUE WAS SIGNED THAT STATED PEOPLE OF BOTH COUNTRIES COULDNT ARM THEMSELVES WOULD THAT TREATY BE VALID IN AMERICA
YES OR NO
MED: CHEEKS IS RIGHT NO AND THE SAME IS IN IRAQ NO AGREEMENT OR LAW
irishbrian: But I thought Shabs was already doing that on a regular basis? He has been up there several times. No only if it was ratified by the US congress
MED: SUPERCEDES THE CONSTITUTION THE CONSTITUTION STATES THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS AND UNLESS THAT IS REMOVED NO TREATY CAN TAKE MERIT OVER IT
Cheeks: already be wrritting into law
guardian: if the treaty is ratified by the Senate and signed by the President, we become legally bound to abide by that treaty imo
MED: NO I GOT THIS FROM MY CONGRESSMAN
irishbrian: Cheeks stop talking with your mouth full LOL
MED: THAT NO AGREEMENT WITH A FOREIGN COUNTRY CAN SUPERCEDE OUR CONSTITUTION
irishbrian: At least not yet Med they are working on it!
guardian: getting it through a treaty is the only way the liberals can take the guns away from the citizens of the U.S...that's why they are trying so hard
MED: FIRST OFF THERE ARE JUST AS MANY WACKO RIGHT WING REPUBLICANS AS THERE ARE WACKO LIBERALS IT IS THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD FROM BOTH PARTIES
TBar52: Amen there
MED: THAT KEEP THIS EVEN I AM A DEMOCRAT YET I AM NOT A LIBERAL BY ANY MEANS I BELIEVE IN THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS OBVIOUSLY I BELIEVE IN PUBLIC HANGINGS I DO NOT BELIEVE IN ABORTION YET I AM A DEMOCRAT GO FIGURE HUH
guardian: i wonder how many blue helmets from the UN would be greatly ventilated from the U.S. gun owners when they try to compscate the weapons
guardian: back on track >
MED: DOES ANYONE REALLY THINK THAT THE UNITED NATIONS IS STRONG ENOUGH TO COME INTO OUR COUNTRY THEY CANT FIGHT THEIR WAY OUT OF A WET PAPER BAG IF THE UNITED STATES OR GREAT BRITIAN ISNT INVOLVED
Cheeks: united nation is only stroong with the US involdedmevt
guardian: they are here in NY, but we need always to be ready imo
MED: WHO IS IN NY MILITARY FORCES THAT COULD OVERRUN THE U.S.
Cheeks: NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOO 1
pballone: No Med I heard they are in Montona ! chineese forces !
guardian: the home office of the UN is here along with members, etc. etc. etc.
MED: OH OF COURSE
arwen: well were i live there are enough guns to take care of people trying to ever take away our liberty's
MED: WELL IF THE CHINESE ARE IN MONTANA PB THEN I FEEL SORRY FOR THEM WHEN THE MONTANA PEOPLE FIND THEM
irishbrian: Heck Arwen I think there are probably enough guns at Meds house 8-)
pballone: They already know they are there
Cheeks: lol it;s still cold in montana
MED: CUZ NEXT THING WE WILL BE HEARING
MED: IS THEY TASTE LIKE CHICKEN
pballone: hope so
MED: ON THIS ENTIRE ISSUE OF CBI
Cheeks: No med .. It taste like beef
MED: I THINK THIS IS A SCARE TACTIC BY THE GOI THIS WOULD BE A DISASTER I MEAN IT IS SO OBVIOUS BY ALL THAT OBSERVE IRAQ TO THOSE OF US WHO ARE IN THIS EVERY MOMENT TO THE LURKER THAT MALIKI IS NOT A LEADER NOR IS HE ABLE TO MANAGE IRAQ HE HAS BEEN A FAILURE
irishbrian: It would be a disastor Med but what on earth is going through the head of M that he would court such a potential disastor to the whole country???
MED: I THINK I CAN EXPLAIN
irishbrian: Please do cause it is beyond me
MED: WHAT DID SADAAM DO HE TOOK AND TOOK AND TOOK FROM ONE AREA OIL HE DIDNT EVEN IMPROVE THE CONDITIONS THAT IS WHAT IS GOING ON RIGHT NOW
THIS BUDGET IS REDICULOUS NO COUNTRY IN THE WORLD THAT IS SIMILAR IN SIZE TO IRAQ IS EVEN CLOSE TO WHAT THEY PISS AWAY
THIS BUDGET HONESTLY SHOULD BE ABOUT 30 BILLION USD
HE ACTUALLY HAS EMPLOYED HIS FOLLOWERS HE HAS PUT TO WORK EVERY PERSON WHO SUPPORTS HIM HE DOES NOT CARE ONE BIT NOT ONE BIT ABOUT THE POWER OR WATER OUTSIDE THE GREEN ZONE
DID THAT MAKE SENSE AT ALL BRIAN SOME WAS JUST AN FYI
irishbrian: Right then he is just another Sadaam and deserves to end up just like him then what is unbelievable to me is all of the rest of the Govt and the people just sitting back and watching it happen??
guardian: read yesterday a minister bought a car for his daughter..cost half a million
irishbrian: Guess when you have been opressed long enough you get to stay pressed a bit like women who are abused they always seem to gravitate to another abuser?
MED: YES BRIAN HE IS THE MINI VERSION NO MASS MURDERS NO GASSING OF VILLAGES BUT HE IS DOING IT SUBTLY THROUGH THE USE OF THE FEDERAL COURT
BUT REMEMBER THE PARLIAMENT PUT A STOP TO IT AFTER THE CBI ISSUE THAT BEFORE A DECISION IS MADE IT MUST GO TO PARLIAMENT BECAUSE OF THE IMPROPRIETIES THAT SEEMED TO OCCUR OK GANG I AM GOING OUTSIDE
arwen: thanks Med have a great Easter with your family
irishbrian: You mean the bad court decisions or corrupt ones?
guardian: thanks med
arwen: Happy Easter to all of you as well
MED: IT WAS A SEMI TENUOUS DISCUSSION CORRUPT ONES IT WAS OBVIOUS OK ALL GO COUNT TO 10
irishbrian: OK thanks Med going to get an ice coffee :P