arwen (19:00:56): so did I read parliment is taking another vacation again
Med: THEY DID LAST YEAR THE SAME TIME
Med: THEY MIGHT AS WELL AGAIN THEY DIDNT GET *** DONE ANYWAYS SO THEY MIGHT AS WELL NOT COME BACK
arwen: that is right so I read that now it will be july 13 for the new denoms etc
Med: THAT WAS A STATEMENT BY JBOURI IT WAS NOT ANYTHING OFFICIAL WAS IT
Med: IT WILL DEPEND DO YOU BELIEVE CBI OR DO YOU BELEIVE STATEMENTS BY THE NATIONAL ALLIANCE
Read More Link On Right
Med: NOW JBOURI IS SO FAR BEEN VERY QUIET HE IS THE FORMER PRIME MINISTER WHO GOT THE BOOT BY GW AND THAT IS HOW WE GOT MALIKI SO TY GW FOR THAT MOVE NOW NEXT WILL BE IS THE STATEMENTS ALSO ON SHABIBI AND OTHERS BEING SACKED WITHIN DAYS AND THEN ARRESTED ON CHARGES OF CORRUPTION AND MONEY LAUNDERING TRUE OR BS AGAIN THESE STATEMENTS COME FROM SOURCES CLOSE CLOSE TO WHAT CLOSE TO THE *** *** ***
Med: CUZ TO ME IT IS DEFAMATORY AND IF YOU HAVE EVIDENCE SHOW IT LIKE MALIKI WAS FORCED TO DO AGAINST HASHEMI OK SO THEY JUST TORTURED A FEW GUYS AND THEY SAID WHATEVER THEY HAD TO SO THEY DIDNT HAVE THIER *** SUPERGLUED TO THEIR *****
Med: TORTURE OVER THEIR IS BRUTAL BEYOND ANYTHING YOU CAN IMAGINE MOVIES CANNOT EVEN THINK UP WHAT IS DONE IN THE ME AND IN SOUTH AMERICA
arwen: well who can blame anyone for saying what they want them to hear to stop the pain
Med: THAT IS THE POINT THEY WILL
arwen: ************ so doyou think it still may happen at the end of year
Med: I DONT KNOW NOONE DOES WE HAVE MANY READS NOW AND I REALLY AM NOT WORRIED IT SEEMS THAT THERE IS NOW LOOSENING OF THE ANTI RV BY THE GOI NOW
arwen: thats is good
Med: AND THEY SEEM TO ONLY WANT TO COORDINATE THINGS WE NOW KNOW AS WE DID ALREADY THAT SALEH AS ALWAYS IS FULL ** ****** AND THEY DIDNT NEED ANYMORE STUDIES OR REPORTS THAT CBI IS COMPLETE AND IS READY TO PULL THE TRIGGER AT ANY MOMENT
THE COORDINATION IS SATISFIED BETWEEN THE GOI AND THE LEGISLATIVE WITH CBI
arwen: so they need to just pull the trigger than
Med: THIS WAS NEVER GOING TO BE EASY AND THE MORE YOU WATCH THE MORE YOU KNOW BOY IF THIS FLIES WE ARE A BUNCH OF LUCKY ****** THAT IS ALL I AM SAYING
arwen: for sure
Med: NOW I WAS HERE EARLIER BUT I SAW SALLY AND BREWBABY AND SOME OTHERS PLANNING MILITARY STRATEGIES AND WHAT CREDENTIALS A PRESIDENT SHOULD HAVE I THOUGHT IT WAS PRETTY COOL AND I DIDNT WANT TO INTERUPT SO I WENT AND PLAYED WITH MY PUPS OUTSIDE
arwen: shoot would have liked to seen that
Med: THEY WERE DOING A GOOD JOB AND PEOPLE HAVE A TENDENCY TO SHUT UP WHEN I COME ON I DIDNT WANT THAT TO HAPPEN
lmdinar: you heard us calling you?
arwen: we don't like to interupt you cause you always have good things to say and we don't want you to loose your train of thought
Brewbaby: Wow don't tell my hubby I have military strategies, he thinks I am a blonde....LOLv
SallyDS: MED have a question.... maybe you answered it and I missed it
Med: GO AHEAD
SallyDS: but....what is the US military doing in Iraq now? I mean the ones that just 'landed'
Med: I THINK THEY ARE GOING TO SEARCH IRANIAN AIRCRAFT THEY CANT GET TO SYRIA WITHOUT CROSSING IRAQI AIRSPACE AND LANDING
SallyDS: they don't need doctors and nurses for that
Med: WHO DOESNT BE MORE SPECIFIC SO I CAN GET THE GIST DID THEY SAY IT WAS DR'S AND NURSES
SallyDS: I believe I read that the US cam with drs and nurss that spoke arabic...they don't need rthat profession to search
Med: NO THEY DON’T HMMMM NOW THAT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE NOT AT ALL FIRST OFF FOR WHAT REASON
SallyDS: and that is why I asked you!
Med: IS THERE AN EPIDEMIC NO I AM EXPLAINNG IT IS NOT A ?
SallyDS: of stupidity? Ges
Med: YOU NEED TO ANSWER I EXPLAIN THAT WAY IN DOING THIS SO WE THE UNITED STATES WILL RECRUIT AND SEND AMERICAN DR'S AND NURSES TO AN AREA WHERE WE ARE TOTALLY AT RISK THE ONLY SAFETY IS IN THE EMBASSY AND NO CIVILIANS ARE ALLOWED INSIDE THE EMBASSY TO BE TREATED
SallyDS: ok do these drs/nurses ned to speak Arabic
Med: OF COURSE THEY SHOULD BUT NOT NECESSARY MOST HAVE INTERPRETERS WE HAD OUR OWN INTERPRETERS AND INTERROGATORS ONE THING WHERE DID YOU READ THAT ALL THESE C 130'S WERE FILLED WITH DR'S AND NURSES I AM WONDERING WHY THEY DONT USE OTHER AIRCRAFT SUITABLE
SallyDS: the arfticle, I believe was on DS since that is where most of myinfo comes from
Med: FOR THAT I HAVE NOT READ ONE THAT SAID THAT THE ONLY ONE SO FAR AND I COULD BE WRONG WAS THAT A LARGE MILITARY FORCE
SallyDS: hummm...so could I....
Med: LANDED IN BAGHDAD AND IT WAS DOZENS OF C 130'S C 130'S ARE WHAT WE USE
SallyDS: I believe one said that by the time they all landed they expected 16K troops
Med: AND ALSO C 140 STARLIFTERS THAT IS ALMOST THE SIZE OF A DIVISION THE 82ND AIRBORNE DIVISION RUNS BETWEEN 14K AND 22K OF PARATROOPERS
SallyDS: hummm and all to search aircraft?
Med: NOPE MY GUESS IS THAT WE ARE TIRED OF THE BS THAT SECURITY IN IRAQ IS PATHETIC AND THAT WE REALIZED THAT WE LOOK LIKE A PUP RUNNING WITH ITS TAIL BETWEEN ITS LEGS AND WITH AN ELECTION LESS THAN A MONTH AWAY AND OUR FOREIGN POLICY IN ? AND THE STRAIGHT OF HORMUZ
SallyDS: ah yes....the practical issues....
Med: POSSIBLY BEING CUT OFF
SallyDS: our election!
Med: AND ALSO THAT WE DO NOT NEED ANY REASON TO ENTER IRAQ SINCE THEY STILL ARE UNDER THE ORIGINAL CHAPTER VII WHICH SAY THEY ARE A RISK TO PEACE AND ALSO THAT THE ARAB COUNSEL HAS STATED THEY BELIEVE THEY ARE STILL A THREAT AND THEY DO NOT WANT IRAQ OUT OF CHAPTER VII THE LIST IS ENDLESS SO PICK ONE AND YOU WONT BE WRONG
mailman17: I HAVE A THEORY<)
SallyDS: all ofthe above! listening!
mailman17: ANYONE THINK IT ODD THAT THESE TROOPS ARRIVED BEFORE THE NATIONAL CONFERENCE? MED?
Med: NOT REALLY SURE THERE IS SO MANY REASONS THAT COULD BE RIGHT JUST ADD THAT TO THE LIST AND SO FAR
mailman17: WHAT BETTER WAY TO ESCORT MALIKI OUT OF HIS OFFICE
Med: NOTHING THAT WE THOUGHT SO FAR IN THE LAST 5 YRS
mailman17: VERY TRUE
Med: EVER SEEMED TO BE THE REASON WHY AND FOR ME
mailman17: WE KNOW OBAMA HAD ENOUGH WHEN HE REFUSED TO MEET WITH MALIKI...THAT TELLS ME A PLAN WAS THEN IN THE MAKING
Med: WHEN THEY HAVE THE MEETING THE I WILL BELEIVE IT
Med: YOU ARE RIGHT ON THAT MM17 THAT DID SURPRISE ME SOME
mailman17: BUT....IT ALSO IS A COINCIDENCE THAT NOW...MALIKI IS IN FAVOR OF ATTENDING
Med: YES IT IS ODD FOR ONE REASON
mailman17: AND MOST LIKELY WITH THE REFORM PAPER IN HIS BACK POCKET
Med: HE APPEARS TO HAVE WON AND KNOWING HIM AND HIS PAST HE USUALLY THEN TEARS UP ANY AGREEMENT
Med: AND JUST MOVES ON I THINK THE REASON WHY IS NOT FEAR OF THE LIST IT IS SOME THE KURDS BUT MOSTLY FROM HIS OWN HIERCHY THE ACTUAL LEADERS OF HIS PARTY I THINK ARE FORCING THIS MEETING
mailman17: THEN AGAIN...WITH BARZANI MEETING WITH HILLARY AND O...AND THE US DELEGATION MEETING WITH ALLAWI AND SADRS GROUP AND NOT THE STATE OR MALIKI ON THEIR LAST VISIT...TELLS ME SOMETHING IS UP AND MALIKIS FINISHED
Med: I WOULD LOVE TO SAY HE IS FINISHED
mailman17: ME TOO PAL
Med: HAS MORE LIVES THAN A CAT HE IS LIKE THE FRIGGN ENERGIZER BUNNY
mailman17: BUT HES ON 9 NOW...10'S A DEAD ONE
Med: KEEPS GOING AND GOING AND GOING
mailman17: YES...BUT WE ALL KNEW THERE HAD TO BE A TIME WHEN ENOUGH WAS ENOUGH
I THINK THAT THIS IS THE TIME
SallyDS: I think we are pushing some kind of criss....to me our troops say that....I hope is Maliki 'gently' escorted out
mailman17: NOT SAYING OUSTING...BUT ERBIL PUT IN PLACE
TBar52: While the dynamic duo are both here can i ask u guys a question
Med: WE ARENT MAKING UP ANY CRISIS SALLY THE CRISIS WAS THERE WE JUST IGNORED IT
mailman17: BEEN THERE FOR YEARS
Med: AND TO ME FOR THE ADMIN TO NOW ACT
Med: IS PRETTY LAME
mailman17: ALSO AGREED
Med: WE ARE TOO SMART TO GET DRAGGED INTO THAT
mailman17: SHOOT TBAR
Med: YES TBAR YOU GOT THAT RIGHT YOU SHOULD SEE MM17 IN HIS RED ROBING TIGHTS
Med: AND LITTLE BLACK MASK
SallyDS: cute really cute
mailman17: ONE MORE THING I WANNA TOUCH UPON BEFORE YOU GO MED... TBAR...YOU GOT A ?
Med: I THOUGHT TBAR HAD A ?
TBar52: the question is about the article postponing till july of 2013. Is this article for real.
Med): YES WHY I JUST EXPLAINED ALL THAT
mailman17: THATS WHAT I WNAT TO DISCUSS WHILE MED IS STILL ON
Med: FOR LIKE 20 MIN NO I DID ALREADY LOOK ABOVE
mailman17: GIMME A SEC...BRB
Med: I DID AN ENTIRE CHAT ON IT
TBar52: They are going to tell the whole world they are going toreval in July 2013
Med: APPARENTLY THEY TOLD US EVERYTHING ELSE REMEMBER YOU ARE IN THE MIDDLE EAST THEY READ FROM RIGHT TO LEFT THAT SHOULD TELL YOU SOMETHING RIGHT THERE
TBar52: Will go up an d check my history thanks med
Med: THEY DO THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER FOR 8000 YRS NEVER CHANGING BUT EXPECTING DIFFERENT RESULTS AND YOU WONDER WHY LOL JUST PULLING YOUR CHAIN
TBar52: but if they dont want any more dinar sold then you dont tell when its gonna happen
Med: NOTHING SURPRISES ME
SallyDS: well...they do...but once in a while they change leaders...and stratgies to giv someone else a chance
mailman17: OK...LETS TAKE THIS ONE STEP AT A TIME FIRST OFF....THE M2 IS QUESTIONALBE ALSO THE SALE OF DINAR WAS PLANNED
mailman17: P L A N N E D HOW ESLE WOULD GOVTS BE ABLE TO GET AN ABUNDANCE IN THEIR RESERVE SO THATS NOT THE PROBLEM SHABS DID WHAT HE WAS INSTRUCTED TO DO
THE THING NOW IS THIS THEY WANT TO FIND OUT WHO WAS LAUNDERING THE MONEY THROUGH AUCTIONS THERE ARE A FEW ARTICLES THAT TOUCHED UPON WHO THEY ARE AFTER THE ONLY ONE AFTER SHABS IS JABBARI AND NUJAFI WANTS THIS CLEARED UP AS WELL BUT NUJAFI WILL NOT PUT SHABS AT RISK
HE WILL SEE THAT THOSE INVOLVED ARE PROSECUTED ALONG WITH THE 5 BANKS LISTED THAT VERY WELL COULD BE THE REASON FOR THE DELAY TO JAN 1 NOW AS FAR AS JULY?...I DONT BUY IT IMO IT SHOULD ONLY TAKE THEM 3 MONTHS TO WRAP THIS CBI MESS UP THEN SHABS CAN CONTINUE WITH HIS RELEASE OF THE SMALLS
REMEMBER WE TRY NOT TO FOLLOW WORDS OTHER THAN SHABS INCLUDING MEMEBERS OF ANY COMMITTEE OR BOARD ESPECIALLY THOSE TIED TO MALIKI OR THE STATE
WE KNOW THEY WANT ACCESS TO THOSE FUNDS...AND HAVE TRIED IN VAIN TO GET SHABS OUT THIS IS JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OR EFFORT ON THEIR PART IT WILL NOT WORK SO...THEIR GOING AFTER SHABS FOR THE AMOUNT....32 TRIL AGAIN...NOT WORRIED...THAT NUMBER IS ACCOUNTED FOR HAS BEEN FROM DAY 1 BY BOTH THE IMF AND THE US THEY KNOW WHAT THEIR DOING BUT NOW THIS JUST MAY GIVE THEM THE CHANCE TO BLAME THE CBI
TBar52: But wasnt the money that the countries hold payment for helping iraq topple saddam?
mailman17: FOR THE AMOUNT OF DINAR OUTSIDE THIER VAULTS AND OOPS...DARE I SAY...IN THE VAULTS OF THE US, UK, CHINA ECT
TBar52: correct me if i am wrongg mm
mailman17: HANG ON ..READING YOUR ? NO IT WASN’T THAT MONEY WILL GO BACK TO IRAQ ONCE 7 IS LIFTED
TBar52: then just how did these countries get sooo much dinar
mailman17: AND PAYMENT WAS MADE THROUGH AGREEMENTS BY THE PARIS AND NON PARIS ENTITIES HMMMM...SHHHH...YOUR NOT SUPPOSED YO KNOW OR CARE IT WAS ALLOWED THROUGH AUCTIONS OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS LETS FACE IT....IF BY CHANCE THE OUTSIDE GOVTS HAVE HALF OF THE DINAR PRINTED JUST HOW IS IRAQ GONNA EXPLAIN THAT PLANNED?
TBar52: what i am getting at is back in 2010 when china was pissed they werent in the oil auctions they threatened to cash in all at one time
mailman17: *** NO THAT IS WHY THE CBI IS UNDER FIRE RIGHT NOW THEY MUST MAKE IT LOOK LIKE IT WASNT SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN
TBar52: And somebody told them no they wouldn’t
mailman17: AND THE CBI AND SHABS WASNT SUPPOSED TO LET THAT MUCH GO AGAIN THINK ABOUT THIS WHY WOULD MALIKI GIVE A CRAP ABOUT THE AUCTION A COUPLE YEARS AGO YOU TELL ME HE KNEW WHERE THAT DINAR WAS GOING
TBar52: to much dinar going out
mailman17: YES? TO HIM IT WAS TOO MUCH
mailman17: BUT NOT TO SHABS AND CERTAINLY NOT TO THE US AND UK
TBar52: following a plan
mailman17: AND CHINA AND ANYONE ELSE INVOLVED EXACTLY I LIKE VERY MUCH THE NEWS COMING OUT VERY MUCH
Med: HEY I NEED TO INTERUPT
Med: FOR ONE MIN SORRY CK
mailman17: AGAIN...WE HAVE ALWAYS SAID MIS INFORMATIUON AND BULL**** WOULD BE AT ITS HIGHEST LEVEL IN THE END
Med: MY FEET ARE ON FIRE
Med: I CANT SIT ANY LONGER GONNA GO SOAK THEM I AM SORRY BRO
mailman17: OK PAL...
Med: GN ALL
THIS CHAT IS CONTINUED PART 2 WITH MAILMAN & MEMBERS