[PaPaJack1952] Hey family jonny said the people went home this morning from the UST and they left two to stay there that is what I was told would happen so now we should see the RV very soon because them two where left there to watch the Rv come threw with no Problems so lets pray we see this soon .
[soonerfan62] Guys I'll be honest with you if I knew the exact minute that the RV would show up I wouldn't call it. I would contact some that has been helping you guys for years and give them the info and let them call it.
[papajack] HeyCowboy I'm hearing all is still on track
[papajack] jamessmith33 I believe the UST has to issue the rate to US banks
[papajack] If that's the third trigger then we might just see this by tomorrow. I'm trying to get an answer on that now.
[papajack] My IMF source told me once the IMF presents the rate to the BIS it's out of their hands and I believe him.
[BWM] [jamessmith33] for those who need a good laugh, here is one for you, a question that was asked... I have a question. Why would UST have anything to do with the rv worldwide? BECAUSE... simply put, the US controls most of the power within the IMF and other agencies. Also, as a country we are one of the only ones that allow citizens to hold dinar. The UST is the clearinghouse for currency and rates for US banks... therefore, VITAL in this particular release
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[papajack] imagine The UST has to release the rate to US banks
[PaPaJack1952] msjeta1 no the two that are there still has some work to do then wait for the RV to come threw to watch for Problems
[papajack] My guess is the BIS releases the rate to all international central banks to release the rates in their own countries.
[mamacook19671967] Papajack, are u saying banks have released rates?
[papajack] mamacook No I'm not saying that
[imperium] PaPaJack1952, thank you for your clarification. I am understanding that the 2 remaining UST IT guys are on standby and awaiting the green light. It's the green light that's the unknown factor and that can go beyond Fri the 23rd?
[PaPaJack1952] imperium true
[BWM] to reiterate the post... since other sites seem to want to correct it... reread since you missed it the first time... quote "Also, as a country we are one of the only ones that allow citizens to hold dinar.".... I love when those are so quick they didn't pay attention the first time... did not say the ONLY country... ONE of the only ones
[2small] BWM : You can include Canada, GB, Israel, Jordon, Kawait, Australia...can't think of many that are not allowed
[BWM] 2small ME don't count.. but if you examine the original document of the 13303 we have the privileges of Iraq citizens... just saying other countries don't have that... and wait til they try to cash out in Australia...
[xyz] PaPajack1952 thought that shabibi gave ok on sun....is that not the case now?
[PaPaJack1952] xyz we could not confirm that
[pamkrawec] moneytec ...NO it hasnt its been the same as it is showing on cbi now its .08324
[papajack] pamkrawec Two zeros down and one to go.
[sfmhi] BWM - are you saying Australians will have to come to US or Iraq or that can't period.
[BWM] sfmhi just saying that banks will be limited there... not impossible but a bit difficult
[pamkrawec] bwm....did you check the forex site too ....AND what is your say on IT..
[BWM] pamkrawec I talk to some Forex ppl.. things have changed so much for them they are uncertain.. they expected to see this already also
[Dimples] BWM I thought Shabibi released. We are waiting on what exactly? AND can it REALLY go beyond the 23rd? I thought sanctions would result
[BWM] Dimples let me reiterate... THEY CAN RV WITH OR WITHOUT SANCTIONS
[oxglove] BWM you mentioned Australia may have issues cashing in if I understood correctly. How about Canada?
[BWM] oxglove Canada is more progressive and banks seem more willing there... jonny has compiled that information for you guys up there...
[ArizonaHeat] There are not alot of people that agree with me on this, but when Bush was in office, he signed an agreement with Iraq that our troops would be out by December "31" 2011. so as far as the sanctions are concerned being up by the 23rd, they may have an issue with that. Iraq is notorious for doing things at the last hour. look they got that from us. With that being said. I still stand that the possibility of it happening before that is still there. Just trying to shed just a little light on what other people from Washington have told me
[ArizonaHeat] Gators all I’m saying is there are always options, still hold strong to all intel given here
[footforward] everything is going to be ok!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! more then ok
[footforward] dmmmd still looking at this week. Haven’t changed that
[BNM] footforward is the 23rd still look good?
[footforward] BNM looks perfect to me
[DinarWishes] Good Evening Peeps!!!! Hope Everyone is in High Spirits tonight!!! Boys and Girls will find it hard to sleep tonight!!! They know that Santas on His way with lots of goodies on his Sleigh!!!
[PaPaJack1952] Hey family jonny said the people went home this morning from the UST and they left two to stay there that is what I was told would happen so now we should see the RV very soon because them two where left there to watch the Rv come through with no problems so lets pray and see
[papajack] I'm hearing some real good stuff, the only bad news is Iraq is having big problems
[papajack] It is being said by well connected folks that the UST is workin overtime to get this done.
[papajack] The bad news is on FOX about Iraq
[papajack] But I'm sure hearing positive stuff about loading the currencies but hey the best intel in my book is right here with jonny and BWM
[papajack] No I don't know if what's going down in Iraq is real but I think the European bailout saved our bacon as in too big of a deal to fail.
[papajack] aberry My guess would be because the UST is the last step before the rate show to US banks
[papajack] seriously they said they stay till it's done
[papajack] Under the word soon in the dictionary they have a picture of a Dinar note.
[shasta7] jamessmith33 ........... the global economies are failing & the powers to be only have one hope... The RV... nothing else in the world can or would get the gov't's out of their mess... that they themselves caused... so it is just a matter of time... & guess what... Time is UP!!!
[jonnywg] I have spent the day reading the new tax laws and have been in touch with a few experts as well it has been a slow process and we are advised amendments to come tomorrow....looks like next week for info
[jonnywg] also the asset seminar is completed and will be posted tomorrow....it was too large for the forum
[jonnywg] now for the illusive rv...we can report all areas of input are nearing the final stages. yet another perfect time approaches.... with many sanctions threatened this is as good a time as any... go rv
[LINDEEE] jonnywg ...Would you please elaborate on your statement. Info to come re tax laws next week? or info next week re RV? Have we changed our timetable?
[jonnywg] LINDEEE statement says it all........ next week
[Asells] LINDEEE LINDEEE TAX laws
[SouthernLawya] We are aware the UST --they have tested the basket, coded it for the (1st) code and released it to the BIS (gets IMF confirmation from IR to give launch (2nd) code embedded with the rate).... the BIS releases back to the UST to recoop confirmation from IR to release to all Central Banks (3rd) code.
[..SweetQueen] SouthernLawya ARE WE AWAITING THE 2ND OR 3RD.
[mamari4] SouthernLawya Any guess as to what time frame IYHO if they move immediately?
[SouthernLawya] mamari4 I do...and I believe the US is "expressing" great concern in IR at this moment as to why that last code is imperative to the very existance of IR
[mamari4] SouthernLawya do you mean impressing upon them that the time is NOW
[SouthernLawya] mamari4 absolutely....I really don't think they want to lose evrything they have worked 10 yrs to build.....
[mamari4] SouthernLawya ok I just wanted to be sure I understood what you were saying... I would think that the worldly Dr. Shabibi - know ing the West as well as his own country would have a good handle on all of this...
[SouthernLawya] mamari4 I wud think so, and I wud think that the US has a pretty good idea of maliki and how to handle him if necessary....
[SouthernLawya] all opinion, but it sure makes sense to me....I can't see Shabbs throwing away all that he has put in his 7 plus yrs their down the drain to start over ...cant see them losinng WTO, OPEC membership and their country sinking at a faster rate than ours...doesn't seem plausible to me in the least...
[BWM] SouthernLawya it's hard to be the president-elect of OPEC if you can't be a member don't you think
[SouthernLawya] and BWM is right, who wants CHINA breathing down thir neck...and do they really want the US to takeover their finances? Think we have enough issues of our own.....geez!
[SouthernLawya] BWM do you feel IR can get any extra time past the 23rd?
[BWM] SouthernLawya think if it goes past Christmas we may have a slight issue... but don't expect that
[SouthernLawya] BWM okay...because with the Islamic New year and their budget beginning on Dec 25 (news to me) seems like we could go up to the 24th?
[BWM] SouthernLawya by Christmas... consider banks are mostly closed on Monday anyway
[BWM] 1biz4u what slight issue is it that you speak of
[1biz4u] BWM The one you might happen if it goes past Christmas
[BWM] 1biz4u no issue per se.. just timing but again, I believe by Christmas
[BWM] here's something fun for the day... if you look at some of the "other" country news... the bombing in Iraq has hardly had a mention... but the US and Iraq blogs have really really made a point of pushing it... AHHH CIVIL WAR and such... hmmm why is that do you think
[SouthernLawya] BWM diversion..........
[ChrisB] BWM what is the status of the turnover of ministers. I am not convinced that sanctions mean anything at this point but that is just me.
[BWM] ChrisB they can RV with or without sanctions... doesn't matter...except for their future
[BWM] ChrisB has nothing to do with hammer logic... there are things holding them to do this... it's a long process they do not want to repeat... and you could see how afraid Maliki was that NATO would pull out