Millionday Roundtable 6/27/14 Part 1
Welcome To Friday roundtable With Millionday!
[millionday] here we go
[millionday] The president of the Kurdistan region Massoud Barzani on Friday the application of Article 140 of the Constitution. Barzani said during a joint press conference held today in Erbil with British Foreign Secretary William Hague, said that "the Kurdistan region of patience more than 10 years on the application of Article 140 of the Constitution,
of the disputed areas them but to no avail, and announce that the Article 140 of the Constitution applied we will not give them and do not talk about this article.
[millionday] For his part, British Foreign Secretary William Hague "non-interference in the country to form a new government in Iraq," noting that "there is a general trend among Sunnis and Kurds Many of the Shiite parties to form a new government.
" The British Foreign Secretary William Hague arrived in the morning to Arbil after his visit to Baghdad yesterday, during which he met a number of responsible attitude.
[millionday] let me find another translation for this -- the way this is leaves it unclear brb
[millionday] we have this at a press conference
[millionday] The president of the Kurdistan region, Massoud Barzani, said Friday that Article 140 of the constitution had been "completed and finished" after the entry of the Peshmerga forces to the disputed areas after the withdrawal of army troops from them.
[millionday] let me check a few more kurd news reports brb
millionday] here we go this is wall street journal about 4 hours ago
[millionday] The leader of Iraq's Kurds said Friday that his forces won't relinquish territory they are defending against Sunni rebels, adding to worries that continued fighting could speed the breakup of Iraq along ethnic and religious lines.
After Sunni insurgents led by the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham launched their military offensive in northern Iraq three weeks ago, Kurdish fighters stepped into the breach left by the federal government's ineffective and retreating armed forces.
The president of Iraqi Kurdistan, Massoud Barzani, speaks during a visit to Kirkuk on Thursday. Reuters On Friday, Massoud Barzani, president of Iraq's semiautonomous Kurdish region, said that control of Kirkuk and other towns now guarded by Kurdish forces wouldn't revert to the central government in Baghdad when the crisis subsides.
[millionday] note -- the meaning that it wont revert to the central gov means that they will obtain this area as in article 140
[hstrymknwmn] hmmmm well then I would said that means activated lol
[millionday] note-- this backs up what he is saying due to the fact that they are standing their ground in these areas
[millionday] hstrymknwmn smile
[millionday] "Now this (issue)…is achieved," he said, alluding to the Kurds' long-running aspiration for self-rule in their northern Iraqi stronghold.
As Mr. Barzani's remarks underlined the fragility of the ties binding Iraq together, the country's most influential Shiite cleric, Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, warned against "plots to divide and disassemble" Iraq.
In comments delivered in a sermon by his spokesman, Ayatollah Sistani also urged Iraqi politicians to agree on new leaders before the scheduled opening of Iraq's new parliament on Tuesday.
[millionday] Iraqi political officials were deep in negotiations over who to choose as the country's next prime minister, president and parliamentary speaker.
Many Iraqis view these decisions as the last chance to reach a political solution to defuse the three-week-old rebellion led by the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham, or ISIS. The incumbent premier, Nouri al-Maliki, is seeking a third, four-year term as prime minister,
but he is under pressure both at home and from abroad to step aside or, at the very least, broaden the base of the embattled Baghdad government that since 2006 has been dominated by representatives of Iraq's majority Shiite community.
Besides capturing cities and towns throughout the north and west, including Mosul, Iraq's second-largest city, ISIS fighters have seized border posts with Syria and Jordan.
[millionday] note --- they at least want the gov to be a combination that represents everyone or maliki leave entirely
millionday] Uncorroborated reports of atrocities committed by ISIS rebels during the offensive were given some credence in a report issued late Thursday by Human Rights Watch, in which it said that there were "strong indications" that insurgents executed 160-190 captives after they seized control of the city of Tikrit on June 11.
The monitoring group's findings were based on an analysis of satellite imagery, as well as photos posted to a website, which featured captions claiming that ISIS fighters had executed 1,700 Shiites.
The death toll could be much higher, the group said in a statement. "The photos and satellite images from Tikrit provide strong evidence of a horrible war crime that needs further investigation," said Peter Bouckaert, the organization's emergencies director.
[Investor1] Let's go with leave entirely ...
[millionday] so a horrible war crime brings you to the international courts to face the global laws -- very interesting
[millionday] i think leave entirely is the best bet for growth as well but we will know in a few days it appears by their agreement brb with more smile
[Investor1] Thought the. Kurds said them or M.
[millionday] they have this in wall street journal stating what they see
[mumofalex] If the Kurds to separate, what do you think that means for our currency?
[Pablo] BGG said last night that they won't as long as M isn't the PM.
[Pablo] Most of that talk is just bluster to force M out.
[millionday] they have announced that they are using Iraqi dinar for their stock market so i would say that financially not a change but also the change to their own state at this time just does not seem likely to me -- they import huge amounts of food and have stated that it would be in years before due to that issue --- i see it as a threat with them being part of the gov (parl) now
[mumofalex] Pablo I do think that to be the case too. I don't see any benefit for the rest of Iraq to just let the Kurds walk off with their oil and natural resources.
[millionday] it really makes no sense to me that it is possible at this time
[mumofalex] millionday Thanks.
[millionday] yw all the time
[millionday] The spokesman of the Ministry of Finance in the government of the Kurdistan region Dler Tariq The proceeds of oil province will happen sophisticated in the financial sector and revive the economy. Tariq said in a press statement that imports of oil, ‘
which proceeded to the province marketed globally through the Turkish port of Ceyhan, will contribute to the creation of a state of recovery in terms of financial transactions and trade,
and boost investment and construction forward, pointing out that the exploitation and Wills Kurdish oil will help in raising the standard of living and increase the income of the citizens by giving employees' salaries on time,
with an increase in delivered according to the gradient schedule service career, especially since the provincial government has plans promising to provide a decent life for the citizens.
spokesman denied that the provincial finance ministry may be considered issuing currency Kurdish, pointing out that the matter is nothing more than a media rumors and there is no formal decision for the subject so far.
[millionday] see nothing but rumors so --- this is the spokesperson for the ministry of finance makes much more sense huge sense brb with more
[millionday] we have also heard that the issues in Iraq are causing oil to raise in price to huge levels
[millionday] A report by the Kuwaiti economist that the cost of oil production in Iraq, ranging from 4-6 dollars per barrel, adding that oil production in the Middle East are the cheapest in the world.
said a report of the Center for Diplomatic Strategic Studies in Kuwait that the cost of extracting Iraqi oil low in theory , despite the presence of many of the political and security challenges that increase the cost of investing in the Iraqi oil sector.
The report said many of the oil companies are exposed to armed attacks in a number of major countries producing oil is what makes the cost of extraction high to secure the risk of oil and increases the total cost of production.
[millionday] so we can always expect rumors especially with so much going on but why would Kuwait say this ? they wouldn’t brb with more
[millionday] A spokesman for the Kurdistan Alliance, pro-Tayeb said the alliance has not been decided so far, its candidate for the post of President of the Republic,
noting that "there are several candidates for the job but there is no agreement on a specific figure yet. He said Tayeb told all of Iraq today that "the coalition formed a negotiating committee and await a meeting of political leaders to discuss the position of President of the Republic,
noting that" the nomination of certain personal from the National Alliance has not been decided so far, and this political decision taken by the leaders of the region but had not been demonstrated so far Who is the personal favorite. "
"The process of selecting a president and speaker of parliament and forming a government will take a long time even if the first session held under the chairmanship of the oldest member."
It is said that the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan, led by Iraqi President Jalal Talabani announced his commitment to the receipt of the post of pres
[millionday] note -- see they are taking part in the Iraqi gov so the rumors seem silly for them to be taking off in their own direction -- it just does not meet with the formal statements
[millionday] The MP said the National Union of Burhan Mohammed Faraj's that "the Kurds are demanding to hold the post of President of the Republic and exclusively for the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK) as part of its requirements."
The presidency of the Kurdistan region, said in the fourth month of last May that "the presidency of the Republic of Iraq is the maturity of the Kurdish people and
We will stress all of our ability to obtain the presidency of the Republic of Iraq by the Kurdish people, and must be the subject of any person nominated for the post, with the approval of the Parliament of Kurdistan, because this Maturity is the maturity of the people of Kurdistan. "
[millionday] note -- remember that they wanted vice -president
[millionday] It is said that Khodair al leader of the coalition of state law currently holds the position of vice president did not run in the parliamentary elections that took place in 30 of the last month.
The MP for the coalition united Smiep overriding has been revealed in the last May 22 for talks to give the position of vice president, leader of the Coalition to House Speaker Osama Najafi in the next government.
As he emphasized his commitment to the coalition united its leader Osama Najafi, "as the sole candidate" to head the new Council of Representatives and his refusal to take the Prime Minister outgoing Nuri al-Maliki for a third term.
[millionday] note -- you have to run
millionday] The MP said the united Ahmad electrodes for "is not united us in another candidate for the presidency of the new Council of Representatives Osama Najafi is a person, but the problem is not in this position, but at the head of the government and the controversy on her person."
[millionday] the whole point is that they are working to get it all placed and are meeting on who what and where as agreed so interesting is an understatement
[Pablo] Very, they are working fast.
[millionday] remember this is new (democracy) they will get better at it
[Pablo] Surprising considering all the waffling they were doing earlier this year.
[jtank] they actually have rights now--laws
[millionday] normally names are put in and they shake hands and hold babies --- it will grow as they become more used to the process
[millionday] exactly -- they are doing great compared to what could be going on -- the entire parl is done and certified and listed -- thats a huge change from before -- huge