[belabun] US and Iran’s First Joint Military Venture: Fighting al Qaeda in Iraq DEBKAfile Video December 29, 2013, 7:26 PM (IDT) With the Geneva Nuclear Accord still far from implementation a month after it was signed in Geneva, the United States and Iran are moving into stage two of their rapprochement:
They are now fighting together to crush Al Qaeda terror in Iraq, debkafile’s exclusive military sources report.
Iraq is two weeks into a major offensive for cutting al Qaeda down - the first major military challenge the jihadists have faced in the past six years.
Three armies are fighting alongside Iraq: the United States, Iran’s Al Qods Brigades officers and Syria. Their mission is to foil Al Qaeda’s drive to spread its first independent state in the Middle East across the Iraqi-Syrian frontier.
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Its Iraqi and Syrian branches - ISIS and the Nusra Front - have declared a holy war to this end under their commanders Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi and Abu Mohammed al-Golani.
The Anbar province of Western Iraq is the scene of he fiercest combat close to Iraq’s borders with Syria and Jordan. To counter Al Qaeda’s superiority in speed and surprise, the US has sent the Iraqi army Hellfire surface-to-air missiles.
They are already in use against al Qaeda camps on the Syrian border. Next, Washington is sending out small, long-endurance unmanned aerial ScanEagles.
These drones are best suited to combat in Anbar’s deep wadis and the halophyte thickets lining the Euphrates River. In this topsy-turvy scenario, Washington and Tehran share another surprising motive: to save the Assad regime in Damascus from Al Qaeda’s long arms.
Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov noted approvingly on Dec. 26: “Attitudes are changing in Western countries; they are becoming more realistic in their approach towards the Syrian crisis.
The threat of terrorism in Syria, of jihadists coming to power, of creating a caliphate with extremist laws, these are the main problems.”
[belabun] Since the Syrian chemical issue was addressed in September, Russian-Iranian-American collaboration is going strong. The joint US-Iranian war on al Qaeda is strengthening Tehran’s grip on Iraq as well Syria.
It gives Russian President Vladimir Putin hope for keeping al Qaeda away from the Winter Olympics at Sochi – an ever-present menace as a female suicide bomber, a Dagestan national, demonstrated Sunday, Dec. 29, by blowing up the railway station at the southern Russian city of Volgograd, killing up to a score of people.
The other incentive for US President Barack Obama is the hope of transposing his collaboration with Tehran and Moscow to improve US chances of a reasonable accommodation in the Afghanistan arena.
[millionday] love that -- Holy war --- is there such thing? ] is that it hun ?
[belabun] millionday yes
millionday] that is great -- see the world together as we thought thanks belabun -- smile
[millionday] i dont like the thought of it but who does they have to stop and the region is in trouble if no one does anything -- it is hard to understand --- but they have to have peace -- they deserve it as we do
[millionday] think of what would happen in Arizona if a whole group oof murderers were out in the desert – ouch the timing with all that is coming is interesting
[wmawhite] millionday .what is interesting is why now? Why wait until after meeting the US President????
[wmawhite] .the answer............Maliki was given his marching orders.........imo
[belabun] wmawhite well, that opinion is what we wish, yea!!
[NUMBERS] Iraq calls for international intervention to resolve the crisis between the protesters and security forces
[NUMBERS] Brother Baghdad MPs called for the Iraqi List to an international neutral party intervention to resolve the crisis taking place between protesters and security forces in Anbar.
He said Iraqi MP Khalid al-Alwani, with the participation of a number of deputies from the list in a press conference held in the parliament building and was attended by a reporter Agency for News News (et) that what happened in Anbar province, the raids for yards sit-ins can not be tolerated and necessary truth and demand that there be a neutral party and internationally after local parties failed to defuse the crisis. "
[wmawhite] belabun ....how could it not be..........the Iraqi forces are receiving intel via US sateilites.........US drones......and US Special Forces on the ground with them.
[NUMBERS] He added that "the government does not meet Buaduha with partners of the political forces in ending the crisis radically and seriously to stop the bleeding, which is being due to the failure of the government in dealing with people."
He pointed out that "Anbar province was still with all peaceful solutions, but we are surprised and after the dialogues that took place with the Minister of Defense to defuse the crisis to pay the government about the escalation, noting that what happened the day of the clash between government forces and the people of Anbar What is Aladleil bad intentions."
[millionday] let me have the floor yesterday i saw the picture of many military boarding a plane and many planes to go to the desert and they ended the sit ins friday in anbar
[millionday] now i also brought in that the whole world -- except us --- are going to Iraq for the New Year and it is a great and huge celebration -- they are presenting the New Iraq and the people need to be safe and that is what this is not war or attacks etc -- it is the end of the last of the former regime attacks -- this is not just in Iraq
[millionday] understand that they have activated the border laws yesterday and also they are on the borders causing problems for all they can -- it is a must and not a war --- a must for the people to have a democratic and safe nation
[millionday] also -- they have to announce war through international law and get approval -- remember all of the organizations we have seen Iraq become an active member of The UN for one and they have to follow international law -- so they are using their military and others are helping to make it stop
[millionday] if they are attacked they will protect themselves as we do so this is good and normal
[lorijeanmarshall] I have a ? about the tariffs when you are ready
[millionday] and also the timeline of the action is a must and a end with a beginning -- sure go ahead
[lorijeanmarshall] Ok... thanks... -- Do they (Iraq) need to be 100% internationally tradable in order to apply the tariff's on the 2nd?
[millionday] not to apply them but they do for the type of trade they are talking and reporting -- they are saying that they are bringing in all trade now and customs is also activated so this is the million dollar question
[millionday] will they begin with all trade and open it entirely ? they have said yes
[lorijeanmarshall] millionday So do the tariff's mean anything for the RV
[millionday] no but trade does the tariff is done by percentages is why i say that
[lorijeanmarshall] millionday And they have said that trade begins on the 2nd as well?
[millionday] but they are not going to open trade without a reality rate -- thats right
[lorijeanmarshall] millionday Ok. So trade is planned for the 2 nd as well.
[millionday] we have to wait these few days
[lorijeanmarshall] Yep. I am good at waiting
[wheresmyRV?] sounds like we are right on top of this happening!
[millionday] we have no ink that says rv on the second but we have trade on the 2nd
[aJw70] China has trade without a reality rate
[lorijeanmarshall] millionday I understand now.
[wmawhite] lorijeanmarshall ......the revaluation of the IQD will be a result of many, many actions on the part of Iraq.........and the tariffs is one of those pieces of action.
[NUMBERS] wmawhite i like pieces of action
[lorijeanmarshall] millionday Thanks for clearing that up for me. Have been very confused about the Tarriff and trading on the second. Wasn't understanding what required a reality rate and what didn't
[wmawhite] Numbers ........ty
[wheresmyRV?] millionday did you say earlier that tomorrow there is a WTO meeting with Iraq?
[lorijeanmarshall] wmawhite Thanks
[wmawhite] lorijeanmarshall .........yw
[millionday] we are all very excited to see
[lorijeanmarshall] millionday I hope this is it. I really do.
[LBnFL] We all do!
[lorijeanmarshall] millionday Hit me
[millionday] now think of this how can they trade at this rate -- they cant
[Dobe] Thank you all
[Hunch] aJw70 say it again...I'm interested in the answer.
[millionday] it will wipe them out and on top of that they have been ordered to apply their reality rate
[wmawhite] millionday ............BROKE
[jimplants] Remember to be a full member of the wto they need a real rate
[millionday] they have said yesterday that the price of the usd will be with trade and sales but we still have to wait
[aJw70] Why... hunch?
[no-regret] millionday are you saying they will trade in usd for a while ?
[NUMBERS] China has trade without a reality rate
[millionday] they do not have enough currency to hold this rate and also they have to internationally have a reality rate
[millionday] no i am not
[Hunch] Numbers thank you
[millionday] they will not trade in USD for a while because their budget is in dinar
[jimplants] This tariff stuff was for a requirement of the wto
[NUMBERS] Hunch yw i was interested in the answer too
[millionday] China is a little off and have been ordered to change it over and over but
[no-regret] millionday ok
[millionday] Iraq does not hold the position they do and we are not talking a few cents off
[Dovi] China's exports are so huge they have been able to hang...but Iraq imports 95% .
[aJw70] And they more then likely wont change it
[millionday] we are talking an imposed rate that is no where near the reality rate and they have no way to support this rate with the small denoms and coins
[Hunch] Thank you all��
[wmawhite] NUMBERS ....the big difference with China is that China exports.....in other words China sells. Iraq needs to import.......they have to buy and at 1166 it would kill them........BROKE!!!!
[millionday] tariff is a must for trade -- a country wants to gain -- China and Iraq rate changes are like night and day
[jimplants] China also owns a huge part of our debit so they have a little leverage iraq does not
[Dovi] and they are importing almost everything.
[millionday] jimplants exactly
[wheresmyRV?] Very good example thanks jimplants
[millionday] so we will see everyone tonight and hope that we have loads of news
[millionday] i just got an email that i will have it
[lorijeanmarshall] millionday Thanks for all the info
[millionday] so be here or be square lol 730 est