Millionday Roundtable 7/9/14 Part 2
Welcome To Wednesday Roundtable With Millionday!
millionday] Has revealed the sources of the National Coalition, for "separate negotiations, conducted recently with most of the components of a coalition of state law, particularly Ktlta Hussain al-Shahristani and Khodair al," indicating that "the negotiations reached during the last two days, to put forward three alternative names for al-Maliki from within the coalition of state law ", without detection.
The sources said, who spoke to the newspaper (range), on condition of anonymity, that "the parties to the coalition of state law is satisfied is not possible to Maliki's nomination for a third term after being rejected by the majority of political blocs, especially the Shiite religious authority has called for a change of government with new faces."
[millionday] smile new faces sounds good to me
[slh5282] sounds good to me also great news MILLIONDAY
[Domino] Well that should sure pave the way and make the process progress even quicker as long as they don't try to put in Maliki Goons.
[jimplants] domit now why wait to sunday
[jimplants] do it now
[millionday] She informed sources, that "some components of the state law, al-Maliki told they no longer insist on the nomination," arguing that these positions "shift marks the beginning of the formation of the government to resolve the crisis that needs to be support from the other blocks will generate in the next few days."
And called for political blocs to present the National Alliance candidate for prime minister as a condition for submitting candidates to fill the remaining presidential positions.
It also rejected the Sunni and Kurdish blocs to participate in any government headed by al-Maliki. Throughout the past few days, Shi'ite politicians responded strongly to hold al-Maliki in power,
and called on him to step down to allow an opportunity for change and political reform, as reported in the outskirts of the National Alliance to various internal and external conditions, Maliki's bloc has made more open to the possibility of replaced.
Domino] OMG, I want to see the movie. . .
[jimplants] i have fat fingers and i suffer from too much heat today hot and ugly i need to stop planting trees and go help people instead -- time for prison ministry
[Domino] Tell M Orange is the new black!
[fishheads] So is this his own peeps saying sit down and shut up?
[millionday] this certainly looks like a huge change
[slh5282] Millionday, if they elect the speaker on sunday, the president and prime minister have to be complete in what length of time?
[Domino] millionday Excellent news and we're seeing more and more of it yesterday and today.
[millionday] The president of a coalition of state law, Nuri al-Maliki, renewed last Friday, (the fourth of July 2014 present), adherence to the nomination for a third term, amid worsening opposition to the majority of political forces
Therefore, most notably the Sadrists, and a coalition of citizens, and the Kurdistan Alliance and the Sunni Arab blocs, as well as coalition National led by Iyad Allawi, to do so.
The MP said Hassan sari, a leader of the coalition of citizen of the Islamic Supreme Council, headed by Ammar al-Hakim, said in an interview to the newspaper (range),
"The postponement of the second session of the parliament constitutes a violation of the Federal Court decision which ruled earlier, not to be the first session open", surprising than "to postpone the hearing to the second of August next and then to reduce the duration of the 13 of July present, some of the blocks after the interception."
[millionday] looks like the second -- they have missed many constitution dates
[mrref1216] They never adhere to the dates that they announce,
[millionday] The head of the House of Representatives older, Mehdi al-Hafez, decided earlier Tuesday to bring forward a meeting of Representatives scheduled to be held next month to the next Sunday,
and stressed that the delay in forming the government presents Iraq "and his policy of democracy in danger", while calling on everyone to override "differences", and accelerate the formation of the government and the consensus on the "nominations necessary."
[millionday] this is what they are talking about hun -- the formation of the gov -- however they have not named the date because od the lack of date compliance -- as we see here >>>
[millionday] For his part, counting the Kurdistan Alliance MP, Mohsen al-Sadoun, said in an interview to the newspaper (range), that "the first meeting has not written until the naming of the Speaker and his deputies because the Constitution emphasizes that,"
noting that "to postpone the hearing violates the Constitution." He guessed Sadoun, "The scenario is repeated postponement if the inability of the National Alliance for asking the name of its candidate for prime minister," pointing out that "the political blocs waiting for the resolution of the National Alliance candidate for prime minister in advance of any upcoming session."
[millionday] so as we see they are planning on the names being released by the next meeting of sunday
[millionday] it certainly is different than the way we and many do things -- smile
[millionday] In turn, saw a member of the National Union of Forces, MP Ahmed al-Jubouri, in an interview to the newspaper (range), that "the political blocs will achieve, during the next four days, to the settlement to resolve the crisis of forming the government," likely to be "seen sitting next Sunday put the name of Salim al for the presidency of the parliament. "
He warned Jubouri, of the consequences of "failure to form a government to the threat this poses to the security of all provinces, especially after the incursion Daash in many areas of the country."
[coolspot] Is the position for Prime Minister going to be voted on at the scheduled Sunday 13th Meeting?
[millionday] that would be great -- they are going to have the names decided on and have said that after the pres of parliament is named with depities they will vote all in one vote basket
[millionday] i would like to tell you yes but they could put it off as usual -- but names should all be chosen
coolspot] How soon after the Prime Minister is voted in does he take charge?
[millionday] i would say days -- it may be the next day -- it could be the following week -- but it should be right away by law -- it is a very confusing gov formation policy
[mrref1216] yep it may take weeks
[Smokey Mtn. Dinar] millionday They need to simplify it for next time!
[mrref1216] that would be to easy lol
[millionday] the thing is look how ours is -- it would be very easy to figure out and not be anything like this
[Smokey Mtn. Dinar] mrref1216 True
[millionday] of course no country has things like this -- the constitution is upheld so ridiculous
[millionday] many people are guessing
[millionday] this was written on july st about the elections
[millionday] So the new Iraqi parliament met today after having promised Iraqi voters, the Shiite religious authorities, and the international community that they would do so. Unsurprisingly, they did little else than meet. Following the inaugural formalities, Mahdi al-Hafez, the “speaker of age”(the oldest MP who chairs the first session),
introduced the only point of substance on the agenda: The election of a parliament speaker and his two deputies. At that point, a Kurdish MP found the time had come to complain about the refusal of Baghdad to compromise on the KRG share of the budget.
This rather blunt violation of the official agenda prompted heckling and even blunter derogatory verbal counter attacks. Speaker Hafez, who represents the small and secular Iraqi coalition with both Sunni and Shiite members, proposed a half-hour break to calm tensions and explore the opportunities for electing a speaker.
[millionday] Second, it should be stressed that constitutionally speaking, the only thing the Iraqi parliament needs to agree on at its first meeting is the speaker.
The practice of agreeing on all three top positions – i.e. speaker, president and premier – is not rooted in the constitution.
Rather, it is a tradition that has come into use on two previous occasions in 2010 and 2006. Sunnis and Kurds who are using this precedent to force the Shiite alliance to come up with a replacement of Maliki should be aware of this aspect, since for the first time the Shiites in the new parliament hold the numbers (170 plus) to proceed with elections of a speaker to suit their own interests even if the main Sunni and Kurdish parties continue to boycott.
(It should be noted, though, that the debate about quorum or no quorum is immaterial to the speakership vote, which explicitly demands an absolute majority to be valid in any case per the Iraqi constitution.)
millionday] so at least we can see that the speaker ect is not done by quorum so it will succeed
[millionday] just majority
millionday] This point is also important because there seems to be a gross disconnect between the actual Iraqi political process and the media description of it. Consider, once more, the move to squeeze out Maliki, which is seen as a foregone conclusion in all Western and most Arab media.
Compare it with the composition of the last key Shia alliance meeting on the subject on Monday, where those present consisted of 6 potential Maliki loyalists (Maliki himself plus Khudayr al-Khuzaie, Hadi al-Ameri, Hashem al-Hashemi, Faleh al-Fayyad and Ibrahim al-Jaafari) whereas only 2 (Ammar al-Hakim and Karar al-Khafaji) are known to be wholeheartedly against a third term.
With a situation like that, a more realistic interpretation is that the tug-of-war inside the Shiite alliance may take rather longer than some on the outside seem ready to admit
[millionday] so as we see here -- the speaker is to be announced by majority on sunday and the rules are being put in place for the banking to create a balance of communication that was lacking for the development of the economic reform -- they are stating that maliki is not going to run again and the kurds have made it clear again that article 140 is remaining and they will not take part with maliki in place of the gov ---
[millionday] the banking rules being changed and the work being done there is very good news for them and us as it applies directly to the economic development
[millionday] maliki leaving is being talked about a lot from all so that we shall see -- the names to be put in for each party are to be done by the sunday meeting
[millionday] the news is all about many talking about what is going to happen with maliki mostly
[millionday] however the banking rules being addressed one day after we read about them is of course encouraging
[millionday] maybe we will have some great news tonight -- the people are sick of no jobs and the money not coming in from contracts as expected by now ---