Thanks My Ladies for letting us share from your private chatroom
MVL: The article from Counterpunch is fantastic. So much of what passes for "current events" in the western media is simply propaganda, once the facts are known. And that's the key: known facts.
The Iran Gambit II http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/08/14/the-iran-gambit-ii/
Lisa: I'm with you on that Mike! Mary, The Iran Gambit II is such an excellent article. When key points are withheld from the "stories" portrayed in the news, vital knowledge is lost, and myths are born. Then, societies are built around them. I've learned some new things today within that article, and its exciting to see it in print, and confirm what my heart tells me.
HG: Mary with the article that you commented on above in a roundabout way they are saying exactly what I've asked now for at least 2 years. my thought process was that Iraq was involved in the bombing and ultimately their currency was devalued for a reason and on purpose. In this case let's just assume that it was the US government.
That has led to my question all along which is if they want the currency to remain devalued (and Iran / Iraq to remain in check) can they not force that even if it means World War 3?
I guess my question is just how far would the United States government or other powers take it to prevent all of what we're seeing happen in banking and global economics from coming to full fruition?
Blessed153: But that takes us full circle one more time,doesn't it? Is this a global banking/financial event or is it a political event? The heart of the issue is the banking system. No government within the central banking system has authority over the money they use. And no government can make the rules/laws to govern the central banking system. If in fact the U.S. Military is the muscle behind the machine then it's all a dog and pony show to occupy and entertain.
MVL: I don't believe the U.S. can directly influence what we are seeing unfold. I believe it's a switch-flip away from the BIS. The U.S. can and may throw a tantrum of sorts, but the mechanism itself is bigger than one or two countries.
HG: I don't think that the US wants any of this. I completely understand that what im saying is in disagreement to things Mary had said in the past. But I don't think the US wants the change. I don't think the US wanted the Iran sanctions lifted. So when the "full" switch is ready to be flipped will the political and military powers try to prevent it. I personally think that the military powers are different than the monetary powers. In this case I think Duke and Duke are not one in the same as the military powers. Yet, they are often in bed together but not one in the same
MY LADIES: THIS IS ALREADY DONE HG. THE NEW AMERICAN CENTURY HAS CEASED TO EXIST FOR A GOOD MANY YEARS ALREADY, NEARLY 10 TO BE EXACT.
ONCE AGAIN I WILL REPEAT THAT THE U.S. AND THE MILITARY ARE NOT STOPPING ANYTHING.
THE POINT OF THAT ARTICLE IN FACT WAS TO SHOW HOW THE PICTURE IS GETTING CLEARER FOR EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE OF YOUR CONCERN.
THE NEW AMERICAN CENTURY PROJECT IS VERY GRUDGINGLY BEING REPLACED WITH THE ONE BELT ONE ROAD PROJECT.
IN ORDER FOR THAT TO BE A SUCCESS EVERYONE NEEDS TO BE IN THEIR OWN CURRENCY AND ALL CURRENCIES NEED TO BE PEGGED TO A BASKET NOT THE USD.
THE SECOND POINT OF THAT ARTICLE WAS TO HAVE EVERYONE UNDERSTAND THE UNDERLYING PLOT THAT WAS HAPPENING IN THE MIDDLE EAST UNTIL EVERYONE STARTED TURNING ON EACH OTHER. IRAN ENDURED SANCTIONS ON A SUSPICION AND AS A REACTION TO A FOILED COUPE.
THE POINT BEING NOW EVEREYONE IS AWARE OF IT. ALL THE ALLIES, THEY WILL NEVER FALL FOR ANOTHER BULLY TACTIC FROM THE U.S. REGARDING IRAN.
I COULD GO ON FOR DAYS ABOUT THIS BUT IN THE END IT WILL BE THE SAME SHORT ANSWER, IRAQ IS PART OF THE NEW SYSTEM AS ARE ALL THE OTHER COUNTRIES, IRAQ IS TAKING THE STEPS NOW TO PREPARE ITSELF FOR THE GLOBAL STAGE.
ALL YEARS PRIOR TO THIS ONE WE ARE NOW IN THAT SAID THE RV WAS IMMINENT WAS RIDICULOUS. I THINK WE UNDERSTAND CLEARLY NOW WHAT THE SCAM OF KEEPING UNINFORMED PEOPLE ON THE HOOK WAS FOR.
WHAT WE SEE AND READ ALL OVER THE WORLD TELLS US THAT PRIOR TO THE NEW BANKING SYSTEM BEING READY IRAQ AND ALL THE OTHER EMERGING MARKETS WERE NOT READY.
HOW DO WE KNOW THEY ARE READY NOW???
WE KNOW BECAUSE EVERYONE CAN SEE IT IN ALL THINGS GLOBAL. WE CAN SEE IT IN GREECE, AND CHINA AND RUSSIA, AND IRAN, AND INSIDE THE BORDERS OR IRAQ THEMSELVES.
MY LADIES: NOVA IN THIS ORDER
AND THEN WHY ARE THEY IN ISRAEL??
MVL: Mary, I'm wondering if Jack Lew's comments aren't just to pacify Israel? The article suggests a tone of fear that, if the other signatories of the Iranian nuclear deal don't hold fast to the dollar, they're toast. It seems to me, from the Chinese standpoint, that China and others are simply headed in their own direction, regardless of the admonitions from Jack Lew.
MY LADIES: MVL THOSE COMMENTS ARE NOT TO PACIFY ISRAEL, THOSE COMMENTS ARE FOR REAL.
IF WE BREAK THIS DEAL WITH IRAN AFTER ALL THE BRU HA HA OUR ALLIES WILL CONTINUE IN THEIR PATH AND THE USD WILL BECOME ISOLATED. WE CAN NOT MUSCLE OUR WAY THROUGH THIS DEAL THIS TIME.
TO MANY OTHER ECONOMIES ARE OVER IT ALREADY
MVL: So his message is to Congress, then? (Jack Lew)
MY LADIES: YES AND TO THE SUPPORTERS OF THEIR IDIOCY
MVL: Ah, got it! Thank you. Wow. It certainly puts the Capitol Hill dog and pony show into perspective.
MY LADIESS: I POSTED SOMETHING TO NOVA..JUST READ IT AGAIN WITH FRESH EYES IN THE ORDER I POSTED THEM AND THINGS WILL GET EVEN CLEARER STILL....
MY LADIES: AND OF COURSE YOU WILL NEED TO APPLY ALL THAT TO WHAT WE TALK ABOUT EACH DAY EVERY DAY AND THE COURSE OF CHINA AND WHO THE PLAYERS ARE TO COMPLETELY SEE WHAT IS COMING.
More Worldwide News:
Princess DD: The IMF is caught in a geopolitical tug-of-war between Germany and the US http://qz.com/479314/the-imf-is-caught-in-a-geopolitical-tug-of-war-between-germany-and-the-us/
Princess DD: IMF presses Europe to provide debt relief for Greece http://www.ekathimerini.com/200557/article/ekathimerini/business/imf-presses-europe-to-provide-debt-relief-for-greece
Princess DD: Why is it So Hard for the West to See Everything is Connected?
Posted on August 14, 2015 by Martin Armstrong
Princess DD: The scariest reason China devalued the yuan, in one chart Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/china-employment-market-is-showing-strains-2015-8#ixzz3inA9Sx6U
Princess DD: BIG SURPRISE HERE!!
Sources: Netanyahu Seeks Gains From Iran Deal Battle He Knows Is Lost
After bitter Congress campaign, weakened Democrats will press for Israel compensation as their bid to retake the White House falters. read more: http://www.haaretz.com/blogs/west-of-eden/1.671094
Princess DD: Iran to showcase 45 projects at London conference in bid to double oil output https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/iran-showcase-45-projects-london-conference-bid-double-oil-output-1515427
Princess DD: Hedge Funds Bloodied by China Rout in Worst Month Since 2011 http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-13/hedge-funds-bloodied-by-china-crash-in-worst-month-since-2011
Princess DD: China says it will stabilise stock market 'for number of years' http://www.bbc.com/news/business-33923017
Princess DD: China policymakers may lose control of yuan: Trader https://www.cnbc.com/2015/08/14/china-policymakers-may-lose-control-of-yuan-trader.html
Princess DD: Euro Winning After China’s Yuan Shock With Best Gains Since May http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-14/euro-winning-after-china-s-yuan-shock-with-best-gains-since-may
Princess DD: China's yuan devaluation to pressure commodities: Goldman http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/08/14/us-markets-china-yuan-goldman-sachs-idUSKCN0QJ0Z220150814
Greek PM faces biggest party revolt yet as bailout approved http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/08/14/us-eurozone-greece-tsipras-idUSKCN0QJ0FI20150814
Princess DD: Russia and South Korea trade relations: New iron silk road project http://freedistrict.com/business/russia-and-south-korea-trade-relations-new-iron-silk-road-project-4861.html
Bond Market Says Cheaper Yuan Won’t Stop Fed From Raising Rates http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-14/bond-market-says-chinese-yuan-won-t-stop-the-fed-from-moving
Princess DD: Global markets still smarting from China yuan shock struggle to find new focus http://business.financialpost.com/investing/global-investor/global-markets-still-smarting-from-china-yuan-shock-struggle-to-find-new-focus
Princess DD: How China’s yuan devaluation could affect your food costs https://www.cnbc.com/2015/08/14/how-chinas-yuan-devaluation-could-affect-your-food-costs.html
Princess DD: Yuan thing after another
A cheaper yuan and America’s looming rate rise rattle the world economy Aug 15th 2015
Princess DD: Yuan Devaluation Much Ado About Nothing http://www.forbes.com/sites/jaysomaney/2015/08/14/yuan-devaluation-much-ado-about-nothing/
Princess DD: US stocks mostly flat as Chinese currency stabilizes and oil edges up from six-year low http://www.usnews.com/news/business/articles/2015/08/14/us-stocks-make-slight-gains-as-yuan-and-oil-stabilize
Princess DD: After pushing down the yuan three times in three days, China just pumped it up a bit http://qz.com/479772/after-pushing-down-the-yuan-three-times-in-three-days-china-just-pumped-it-up-a-bit/
Princess DD: EMERGING MARKETS-
Emerging currencies hit lows on domestic woes, yuan slide
Princess DD: The world has a bigger problem than China’s currency devaluation https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonkblog/wp/2015/08/14/the-world-has-a-bigger-problem-than-chinas-currency-devaluation/
Princess DD: Asia SBR may extend falls on tumbling regional currencies http://www.icis.com/resources/news/2015/08/14/9913966/asia-sbr-may-extend-falls-on-tumbling-regional-currencies/
Princess DD: Englander Sees More Pain in Emerging-Market Currencies http://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2015-08-13/englander-sees-more-pain-in-emerging-market-currencies
Princess DD: US sanctions on Iran violate Geneva conventions: American Scholar http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/08/14/424725/US-sanctions-Iran-war-crime
Patti: Not sure if this has been posted already…sure is interesting.
This Map Shows the Global Impact of China’s Dramatic Currency Devaluation
The plunge in the value of China’s currency, the renminbi (RMB), is shaking world markets, and almost no major index is untouched by the ripple effect. On Aug. 11, the People’s Bank of China, the country’s central bank, allowed the RMB to descend further and faster than at any time since 1994. Monetary authorities insisted the Aug. 11 drop, which caused the RMB to fall by 1.9 percent against the U.S. dollar, would be neither “persistent” nor “substantial,” but the RMB’s value has taken a further dive in subsequent days.
The currency has fallen because traders on the free market appeared to believe the RMB was overvalued and that Chinese authorities were determined to let the market have a bigger say in its valuation. The move also makes Chinese exports cheaper, a competitive advantage for China that arrives at a convenient time, when domestic equities have taken a beating and the country’s massive economy shows signs of further stalling.