[dozergirl] BocaLinda you havent noticed the quietness across dinarland......no one posting ....no bank stories....do we really think noone with bank contacts are not talking
BocaLinda] Dozergirl hon I think its the calm before the rv. Its comin!
[uluvpoems2] I feel we are on count down! this could be our week...so be hopeful
[weneedit] gm everyone ! I tried to stay away after my vacation, but addicted to this. Anyone have pills for this thing called addicted to dinar? Lol
[eagles4] My banker called me last night. She has dinar. Wondered if I had heard any good news. I said you should be calling me with the good news. Lol
[superdj567] I'm hearing the 22nd of March that this could happen for some of my sources.........who knows?
[greasee5] Integrity: 37 Iraqi officials embezzled more than a trillion dinars and went to the outside and did not reclaim dinars and one of them
[greasee5] Papa Bear gm question? everyone says iraq has no bearing on this, but maybe do you feel they need to get all these corrupt politicians in check before this occurs?
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[Papa Bear] greasee5 NO
[greasee5] Papa Bear with all the embezzlement it would presumably cost them big time, jmo
[Papa Bear] greasee5 The cost of not doing is even higher
[greasee5] Papa Bear I have always been in the camp of iraq has no bearing, but could these traps have been set to keep some in check, or just smoke to give us something to read?
[Papa Bear] Smoke
[greasee5] Papa Bear I agree totally, just alot of corruption news lately, just fill in?
[redhead1] Papa Bear - do you think this March Madness will end for us this week?
[Papa Bear] redhead1 Hope so but you know neither u nor I are in control
[redhead1] Papa Bear - I hate that part of this - it is terrible for me because I am a control freak
[Spades] Greasee5 papabear . Imo wirh the elections coming up the goods will come out on the corruption ... Also if it does Ri before then the bad eggs will try to run on the Ri . Just a thought
[greasee5] Spades so you believe this is the set up on their end for the elections? i think you maybe right, jmo of course
[Spades] Greasee5 could be .
[Papa Bear] Corruption is world wide
[greasee5] Papa Bear I agree, and wish that it could be dealt with, just the wasted money could do so much goo for those in need, instead of lining bankers and politicians pockets, its becoming an elitist society we live in, imo
[Spades] Politicians are politicians no matter where they are . They look after that re election .
[greasee5] Spades so true i agree, its a shame though
[Papa Bear] greasee5 The coruption has been going on for so long and they think they can still get away with it. THEY CANT .getting more transparent all the time
[greasee5] Papa Bear yes i believe that, and hope if this new system gets up and running it will make it impossible to carry on that way, just my hope ty for your replies
[Spades] I have to go . If anyone sees cruiser ask him a question for me . When he thinks the market is going to have its correction?
[Colorado] bigdogmom the american public do not have any idea the government is holding dinar. They want you to think that by taxing people they were able to lower the debt and balance the budget.
[Colorado] bigdogmom This opens the door for more and more taxs. I would guess you did not know Clinton had the government hold dinar when he balanced everything. Wanted you to think it was taxing people.
[bigdogmom] Colorado Yes, did reading on that and read the graphs, was just magic how that happened.
[comet] And then they will say told you we needed to tax the wealthy
[Colorado] comet -- 100% correct. And if we take all the money we can then distribute it and get completely out of debt.
[TexasMom] cowtown333 we really are in a good position right now. Things cannot be said in chat or internet. It just is what it is. Nobody wants to hear "we are close". But, that's what we are. IMHO
[okrocks] TexasMom true, what else is there to say? nothing... yeck, what a way to go huh? Lol
[TexasMom] okrocks lol it's just that! And, I know it sucks! (vaccuum talk pups)
[okrocks] TexasMom rofl gotta love it
[Redwolf] I have always been a part of the WD team. Just don't post much. Spend all day long researching and watching rates. Unless something very evil happens this will be our week.
[Robertprofessor] Coming from me it's not much, but I know enough to know that Redwolf is an expert, has been behind the scenes gathering the scoop, and his coming in here today, and excuse me in advance, SHOULD BE ENOUGH FOR ALL THE "BOO" BIRDS TO SHUT THE HECK UP.
[Papa Bear] Robertprofessor My research same
[Papa Bear] That’s Why I vouched for him and got called for it .
[Redwolf] Be patient for the next few days. if they are collecting taxes at the time of an exchange there is paperwork and training that needs to be completed.
[Redwolf] Please remember this type of an exchange has not been done in the US before. Taxes paid at the exchange will simplfy things for us and the IRS. New rules have been written for this.
Redwolf Can you tell us what the tax rate would be?
[Redwolf] Don't know the tax rate. Please listen to both Jester and WD as they always have the best intel. This ride is just about over.
[ram1] misskitty05 I am very hopeful and happy
[sailman] Jester Remember my friend in the ME with a "contract" ---- well his crews are "working" today :))))) Need I say more :))
[Jester] you guys need to quit worrying... seriously... relax in the knowledge that many good people say we are close...
[Papa Bear] Redwolf Have u noticed what happen since JP Morgan covered metal shorts
[kimberly] Jester Jester do you know if with the bank codes they will work with if we have reserves?
Jester] kimberly well... and this is my opinion... if you cannot pay for your reserves then forget your reserves and go to your appointment...
[ram1] kimberly I bet they will have something about reserves in the email. IMHO
[Papa Bear] kimberly Better pay off reserves. IMHO
[buybyeby] Jester a lot of chemistry involved in cooking, i am like the mad professor mixing and creating new compounds in the kitchen
[Jester] misskitty05 and MarkZ liked that word... lol
meisme] If we read correctly with good interpretation redwolf said: " if they are collecting taxes". it does not mean thay are going to collect taxes but is by any chance the collect....then..
[misskitty05] Robertprofessor-sounds like a big shot of doneium this morning doesn't it?
[Robertprofessor] misskitty05 Big shot as in a horse needle!! Yes, I think that's how it seems. This week is it unless something unforeseen comes up that must be dealt with before the reset. Redwolf is aware that all rates are loaded, but must hold for a minimum time period and then go live. Smile.
xyz] German Central Bank Doubles Reserves New York Times - 1 hour ago FRANKFURT - Germany's central bank said Tuesday that it nearly doubled the reserves it holds to cover possible losses, in a not-so-subtle expression of its uneasiness with emergency measures the European Central Bank has taken to combat the euro ..
[sananddan24] Jester should we get the email before or after rates goes public?
[Jester] sananddan24 depends on when the rate go 'public'...
[okrocks] [alexdc3] THE GOV NEEDED AWAY TO LET us know where the money from the rv was going to come from....well here it is this am on morning joe [alexdc3] God Bless us All!!. Just a little info I picked up this morning,
3/12/13, at 7:30 A.M. Cent. from MSNBC Goodmorning Joe. Senator from Missouri Claire MacAskill from Missouri (? on Spelling) announce that U.S.is trying to recover trillions of dollars, from Iraq and Afghanistan, which were looted from the U.S. during the war(s). And she was very against the fact that we (the U.S.) is rebuilding their infrastructure when in fact we have so much here that needs to be rebuilt. Just my opinion but doesn't this provide the government's perfect cover up for the RV? Now they have a great explanation for "where did all the trillions came from"?
[okrocks] I thought that was interesting...
[Jester] okrocks i like it!
[Robertprofessor] okrocks Ingenius. Yes, blame the Iraqis.
crossways] sadly a lot are moving out of usa :(
[wheezer2] well even the ones who are leaving will still be paying their fair share of taxes unless they surrender their citizenship.....a U.S. citizen pays taxes regardless of where they live....
[crossways] wheezer2 this is true
[crossways] wheezer2 wheezer2 but, staying and putting money into our economy...helping the small businesses...would be better ;)
[wheezer2] crossways well perhaps our government needs a Little Wake-up Call ????????
[crossways] wheezer2 like you stated, the govt will get their taxes whether they stay or go, but the people will suffer...corner stores, department stores, eateries, etc. ...the small businesses...
Jester] crossways on the flip side... you are going to be one of the people they target to take more money from in the future... when you are all suddenly elevated into that category it will not seem near as fair they are taking more and more of your money...
[wheezer2] crossways unfortunately they will.....and then so will the govt in tax revenue.....see, IMHO that is how the govt holds the citizens hostage....by making peeps feel guilty for standing up to them.....IMHO....you have not seen the sequestor cuts affecting politicians paychecks and benefits....
[wheezer2] it is other sectors....airtraffic controllers who make it "unsafe" for us,,,etc etc.
[Jester] wheezer2 or giving away $100 billion in surplus (REALLY?) funds to eurobanks...
[tc0043] Jester The way to avoid a large tax liability, if there is an income tax, is to invest your large sums of money in tax free municipal bond MUTUAL FUNDS and generate a monthly tax free income.IMO
[Papa Bear] tc0043 great post
[Jester] tc0043 wonder how much the payback on that is?
[tc0043] One should expect to receive any where from 4 - 6 %
[Jester] tc0043 hmmm... if you park it somewhere for 10% and pay just the taxes you will be ahead...
[Fiddlehead39] tc0043 tc0043 Hi It has been stated that Bonds are the next bubble to burst,, don't know if true.
[ [tc0043] Fiddlehead39 Not Municipal bonds. They fund infrastructure.
[pastored] Banks are not in the IRS business come on common sense folks
[misskitty05] pastored as I see it they will call this a non tax event. The UST will charge a "fee" ... not a tax ... which will be taken off the bank rate before we ever see the money. That way the banks are not collecting a "tax" ...solves the problem you raised. There is always an answer for clever lawyersimo
tc0043] I caution everyone to make sure the professionals you use can implify it enough for you to explain it to someone else and get at least 75% of it right. In my opinion and from experience in financial services for 27 years, any one who complicates info is trying to convince you they know more than you
[tc0043] and you need them.
[Papa Bear] misskitty05 Diversify with mixture of tax free plus taxable to raise yeild with least amountof risk
apa Bear] tc0043 lots of different types in tax . Do a mixture in your plan
[Papa Bear] tc0043 Risk tolerance and before tax and tax free important
misskitty05] tc0043 agree ... imo the best and the brightest can reduce things to the simplest terms for those who are not so bright ... it's a skill we want in anyone we work with
[.Ladybug65] I want to get excited but dont want the let down if it doesn't.
[Maryrose] wait to be excited for when you get your email!! just sayin that to protect your emotions
[Jester] Maryrose great idea... remain cautiously optimistic and let er rip when "you've got mail"... lol
[Doolittle] ? to anyone, do you think the UST fee would be a flat fee or adjusted fee according to how much you cash in?
[Maryrose] Doolittle hi noone knows hon
[Diogenes] Jester GM May I ask, do you concur with the post from Redwolf based on your information? TY
[tc0043] Doolittle I think your rate is already reduced by spreads and fees
[Jester] Diogenes it lines up with other things i am hearing...
[tc0043] Jester Are you hearing it could be released today?
[ [texascamper] is there anyone in the banking industry that can confirm Redwolf's information?
[Diogenes] Jester Well that is good, except for the few days wait part. :)
[Jester] tc0043 you know even if i was hearing that i would not say it...
[Jester] i dont do rate and date... except with nolapsice... lol
Papa Bear]. IMHO Tier 1 and Tier 2 nothing until RV IMHO. Take it for what its worth .SDRS and Vouchers dont pay bills.
[Mitzi] Papa Bear the healthcare tax loophole worries me
[Mitzi] I am not a big dinar holder
[Papa Bear] Mitzi Fear bad
[Dolly119] Papa Bear I agree with you on the tier thing...how can anyone do anything until rv no matter what "tier" they are in...and seriously...what are the tiers and who belongs to what? Once it changes it changes for all
[Dolly119] the rate is the rate....
ustyc] Papa Bear that is one opinion... they may however be an advanced way to set exchange when it does jmo