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sczin11: Allawi injury news for heart attack By Roudao One hour ago Roudao - Erbil It was reported wounded by Vice President Iyad Allawi, on Tuesday, a heart attack was taken to a London hospital. According close to Allawi, the Vice President Iyad Allawi sources transferred to London to receive treatment after he suffered a heart attack due to stress and fatigue.
He was Vice President Iyad Allawi, have been suffering from hardening of the arteries problems is continuing in treatment, according to his personal physician Harley Starrett.
MichelleL: he "was" are they saying he's dead?
MichelleL: more arabish
sczin11: ‹@MichelleL› I THINK STATING HE HAD HA N IS IN LONDON HOSPITAL
MichelleL: he was and is continuing
whitelions: INTERVIEW-Iraq to issue intl bonds in August .......Iraq's budget deficit has risen to around 12% of GDP, said a central bank official. The Iraqi government is planning to issue a total of USD 11 billion in domestic and international bonds in the next two months to cover the state budget deficit, the acting central bank governor said. www.theiqdteamconnection....
MichelleL: Sczin he was trained there and has a house there, maybe he wants to stay till the world gets better
MichelleL: should have taking his compatriot M with him though
sczin11: COULD MAHMOOD BE NEXT..Abadi referral Babacar Zebari to retire on reaching the legal
whitelions: ‹@sczin11› looks like Abadi is cleaning up lol I'm so happy doing the dance
MichelleL: lol whitelions
sczin11: ‹@whitelions› I SURE HOPE SO
OOTW: I'VE JUST REVIEWED THIS,..EXCELLENT INFO
OOTW: AND I AGREE WITH SCZIN11 WE'RE SEEING SUCH GREAT PROGRESS
OOTW: ALSO TY WHITELIONS
Doug_W: Stock market gained a LIL today
OOTW: YEAH DOUG...I THINK THE CONSENSUS IS THAT IF THIS DEFAULT'S GOING TO HIT US, IT MAY TAKE A FEW MONTHS
jarhead: sayin october
TxBrand: ok ...I like that guy lol ---> we are in an abnormal market and when there is an under valued market its going to correct its self and when you see a prolonged under valuation its just a matter of time before you see the price move higher
OOTW: TX BRAND
chattels: Babaker Baderkhan Shawkat Zebari (Arabic: بابا كر بدرخان شوكت زيباري) was a General in the New Iraqi Army. Zebari was chief of staff of the Iraqi army from 2003 till 2015.
OOTW: AN AMERICAN EAGLE, AS YOU'VE PROB ALREADY LEARNED IS A SILVER COIN - MOST OFTEN TIMES, PLACES WILL CHARGE 5.00 "OVER SPOT" SO SAY IF THE PRICE FOR SILVER PER OUNCE COSTS 16.00 YOU WOULD BE CHARGED 21.00 BY THE COIN SHOP TO PURCHASE AN AMERICAN EAGLE COIN
chattels: Military sources say a Kurdish general with the Iraqi Air Force, Anwar Hamad Amin, is expected to replace Zebari.
chattels: "He had asked himself to retire, that request has been refused several times. He was someone who was due to leave the job," she said. "His replacement is said to be also a Kurdish general. This is essentially a policy position that has traditionally been given to Kurds."
chattels: " .... this particular position is not seen as having had huge amount of bearing on those failures on the ground." , i.e., Mosul and Ramadi
chattels: The Iraqi military suffers from both poor training - which the US military says it largely abandoned after the 2011 withdrawal of American forces - and lacking leadership.
Zebari repeatedly said before the withdrawal that it would be better if US forces stayed, as it would take years for the Iraqi army to be fully ready. "If I were asked about the withdrawal, I would say to politicians: the US army must stay until the Iraqi army is fully ready in 2020," Zebari had told AFP in 2010.
chattels: While Zebari was chief of staff, military responsibility was devolved elsewhere post 2011, with former Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki centralising control of the armed forces in his office and bypassing the defence ministry.
OOTW: YES TXBRAND THAT'S THE RIGHT VIDEO
OOTW: HIS INFORMATION TO ME, IS NOT OVER THE TOP COMPARED TO MOST I'VE LISTENED TO
chattels: THE THREE PRESIDENTS HAVE THAT RIGHT — SO THEY WILL BE ADDRESSING THE IMPORTANT LAWS THIS WEEK…THEY CAN PUSH THEM THROUGH…THIS IS GREAT NEWS. [so basically the 3 presidents don't need to wait on parliament to vote the laws through?] THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO USE EXECUTIVE ORDER FOR THE GOOD OF THE COUNTRY. - ZERODAY
chattels: WHAT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
chattels: WHERE DOES THIS STUFF COME FROM ???????????????
chattels: EXECUTIVE ORDER ????????????
chattels: SOMEBODY SHOW ME THE INK ON THAT PLEASE
chattels: I SAY BOVINE SCATOLOGY
MichelleL: don't hold your breath
MichelleL: time to relax for 10 minutes before getting all excited and calling my friends and excitable relatives ROFL
chattels: ‹@OOTW› I SEE WHERE YOU ARE CONSIDERED WORTHY PRESS BY THE GREAT " BANNER "
gold642: Central hails anti-money laundering law 06/30/2015 17:45
gold642: Keywords House of Representatives called on to give priority to pass a law where there is a few months deadline given to Iraq if they are not in Iraq approve the project will be put on the blacklist,
gold642: which was put on according to the latest international standards and agreements and coordinate directly with the World Bank and the Financial Action Task Force and international organizations",
gold642: "the new law lays the framework and concepts clear and effective & Conditions It enables the central bank, the judiciary and the relevant authorities to exercise the roles and tools commensurate with the seriousness of the crimes of money laundering and terrorist financing. "
chattels: Chapter one [The Legislative Power] Article 48: The federal legislative power shall consist of the Council of Representatives and the Federation Council.
chattels: IRAQI CONSTITUTION www.iraqinationality.gov....
chattels: Article 60: First: Draft laws shall be presented by the President of the Republic and the Council of Ministers. Second; Proposed laws shall be presented by ten members of the Council of Representatives or by one of its specialized committees.
chattels: Article 61: The Council of Representatives shall be competent in the following: First: Enacting federal laws.
chattels: [The Executive Power] Article 66: The federal executive power shall consist of the President of the Republic and the Council of Ministers and shall exercise its powers in accordance with the Constitution and the law.
whitelions: ‹@chattels› you are a wet blanket lol are you trying to tell me that article 's 60&61 won't be met ?
whitelions: and 66
chattels: ‹@whitelions› I AM TRYING TO DEMONSTRATE THAT ZERODAY IS A ZERO
whitelions: ok what did I miss what is zeroday?
sczin11: ‹@chattels› ‹@whitelions› ROFLMAO
chattels: Article 67: The President of the Republic is the Head of the State and a symbol of the unity of the country and represents the sovereignty of the country.
He shall guarantee the commitment to the Constitution and the preservation of Iraq’s independence, sovereignty unity, and the safety of its territories, in accordance with the provisions of the Constitution.
whitelions: if your talking about everything happening all in one day well I don't think any of us except that but they are getting all thier ducks in a row so that it will go smoother than ever before
chattels: Article 73: The President of the Republic shall assume the following powers:
chattels: Third: To ratify and issue the laws enacted by the Council of Representatives. Such laws are considered ratified after fifteen days from the date of receipt by the President.
chattels: MY POINT IS THAT THE THREE PRESIDENTS, INDIVIDUALLY OR IN CONCERT, HAVE NO CONSTITUTIONAL POWER TO ENACT LAWS.
whitelions: ‹@chattels› I Just figured out how to this lol
whitelions: ‹@chattels› your right they don't
MrDiagy: ‹@chattels› where's the RV bud?
chattels: Article 78: The Prime Minister is the direct executive authority responsible for the general policy of the State and the commander-in-chief of the armed forces. He directs the Council of Ministers, presides over its meetings, and has the right to dismiss the Ministers, with the consent of the Council of Representatives.
chattels: Article 80: The Council of Ministers shall exercise the following powers:
chattels: Second: To propose bills.
chattels: CONSTITUTIONALLY, LAWS ARE ENACTED BY PARLIAMENT ALONE. PERIOD. END OF STORY.
chattels: AND ENACTED BY THE OBSERVANCE OF PROCEDURES, READINGS, ETC.
chattels: I FIND NO CONSTITUTIONAL BASIS FOR TRUNCATION OF SUCH PROCEDURES
Sam: ‹@chattels› HI... i see lots of red, dear....is this good reports
Sam: truncation lol
Sam: our own bill oreilly
Sam: by the way GE
Sam: need good news love
TxBrand: Trump is suing them for 500 million ... maybe others will think hard before they try to do him n lol
sczin11: ‹@chattels› WE ARE ANXIOUSLY AWAITING YOUR EXPLANATION TO WHITELIONS OF WHOM U R REFERRING TO IN YOUR TIRADE ABOVE...LOL
chattels: THERE IS NO " FAST TRACK " FOR LEGISLATION IS WHAT I WANT EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND - THE CONSTITUTION REQIURES " PUBLIC " READINGS, ETC.
OOTW: SOMEONE JUST ASKED ME IF I EXPECTED TO SEE A CHANGE IN VALUE AND THIS IS WHAT I SAID:
whitelions: ‹@sczin11› he answered just not where you could see lol
OOTW: I WANT TO SEE HOW GLOBAL ECONOMIC ISSUES PLAY OUT - ALTHOUGH I THINK KEYWORDS IS NOT DOING A GOOD JOB, I'VE NO DOUBT THAT THE PEOPLE OVERSEEING THIS IN IRAQ ARE GOING TO BE WATCHING THE STATE OF GLOBAL WEALTH.
NO COUNTRY IS AN ISLAND, ESPECIALLY IN TODAY'S ECONOMIC CONDITION/S. YOU KNOW, I'VE ALWAYS SAID, I WANT TO SEE THE ACTUAL PRIVATE SECTOR LAUNCHED - WHICH WE'RE VERY CLOSE TO SEEING.
I DON'T MAKE PREDICTIONS..I JUST WATCH AND REPORT...AS YOU KNOW. I'M SO GLAD TO HAVE YOU ON OUR SITE AND TRULY, IF I SEE WHAT I THINK IS A GREAT SIGN SOMETHING MAY SOON BE HAPPENING I'LL LET YOU KNOW..
BUT, THERE'S MANY STEPS NEEDED, AND EACH OF THOSE STEPS, CONNECTS TO ANOTHER SET OF STEPS..BUT WE ARE GETTING THERE, SLOWLY BUT SURELY. OOTW
chattels: ‹@sczin11› TRYING TO BE " NICE " AND DISCREET :)
Sam: ‹@OOTW› Thank you
Sam: certainly glad there is someone who can interpret this stuff
sczin11: ‹@chattels› THERE MAY BE ONE EXCEPTION, DUE TO THE QUESTION OF THEIR AUTONOMY, AND UNDERSTANDING CONSTITUTIONAL DEFINITIONS, THAT BEING THE BANKING LAWS...CBI
OOTW: I TRY
Sam: ‹@OOTW› ‹@chattels› ‹@sczin11› and anybody else
chattels: LAWS ARE VOTED UPON INDIVIDUALLY AND NOT AS A " BASKET "
Sam: and you guys can disagree and still get along
chattels: IS IT POSSIBLE THAT PARLIAMENT MAY AGREE TO PASS ONE LAW IF OTHER LAWS ARE AGREED UPON ? , yES. iS THAT A " BASKET ", WELL, IT IS A COORDINATED LEGISLATIVE ACTION(S)
] sczin11: ‹@chattels› ACTUALLY READ A RELEASE IT MAY B IN FORUM TODAY, WHERE THE MP STATED WE NEED TO PASS SUCH AND SUCH, AS MANY OTHERS DEPEND ON IT AND WILL FOLLOW IN SUCCESSION
Sam: another REP candidate Christie
chattels: ‹@sczin11› CERTAINLY PLAUSIBLE
Sam: that makes 14
chattels: BUT IF OOTW CANNOT CONFIRM THAT THERE HAVE BEEN TWO READINGS THEN THE BILL IS NOT GOING TO BE SCHEDULED FOR A VOTE, imo
OOTW: WELL CHATTELS WE'VE SEEN THEM READ ONE LAW TWICE IN A DAY
OOTW: ANYTHING'S POSSIBLE OOTW: :)
[06:44:27 PM] chattels: AND THERE IS A FOUR DAY WAITING PERIOD BETWEEN THE FINAL READING AND A VOTE, imo
sczin11: HERE WE GO.... " IT IS IRAQ"
whitelions: ‹@chattels› but they have been put into the e-Guillotine we don't know yet tomorrow will be an exciteing day I hope
chattels: WELL, I HAVE PONTIFICATED AS MUCH AS I AM INCLINED TO DO FOR ONE DAY
sczin11: ‹@whitelions› TOMORROW MAY BE NOTHING BY THE MOST RECENT RELEASE I FOUND..ITS PISTED IN FORUM
chattels: ‹@whitelions› I ALLOW FOR THE POSSIBILITY THAT I AM WRONG
Sliderule: Thanks Chattels
whitelions: ‹@chattels› me too it's the best way to go
sczin11: ‹@chattels› BY THE WAY, YOU GOTTA LINK FOR WHAT STARTED THIS WHOLE CHAT?
chattels: ‹@sczin11› I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT ANYTHING SIGNIFICANT IS GOING TO HAPPEN THIS WEEK IN PARLIAMENT
chattels: ‹@sczin11› DU OBSERVER
sczin11: ‹@chattels› I GOT THAT YIN....BUT, YOU NEVER KNOW...EVEN TONY WILL BE RIGHT ONE DAY
chattels: ‹@sczin11› dinarupdates.com/observer...
sczin11: ‹@chattels› TY
MrDiagy: ‹@sczin11› that's what im talkin bout
chattels: ‹@sczin11› VERY POSSIBLE, BUT WHAT VALUE / INTEGRITY IS THERE IN GUESSING EVERYDAY IN THE HOPE / EXPECTATION THAT IT WILL HAPPEN ONE DAY ? IS THAT REDEMPTION AT WORK ? :)
chattels: ‹@sczin11› WE ARE NOT AT CROSS PURPOSES, JUST SAYIN' :)
OOTW: OOTW - [IF TARRIFS ROLE OUT AUG 1, DOESNT IRAQ NEED A RATE BETTER THAN 1166?] ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT IN THE “50/100K” ARTICLES QUOTING SALEH, HE SAID THAT THE RESERVES SUPPORT A “DOUBLE” ING OF VALUE OF THE DINAR..
THE RESERVES SUPPORT THIS TWICE OVER…AND HE SAID THAT WE WOULD SEE THE VALUE OF THE DINAR “DOUBLE” TO OFF SET THE TARIFFS…WHAT REALLY WILL HAPPEN, I DONT KNOW.
WE DON’T KNOW FOR SURE WHEN SALEH SAYS WE HAVE DOUBLE THE RESERVES TO BACK THE CURRENCY HOW / IF THAT WILL APPLY TO A RATE…
chattels: tempo and / or pace is the key to life and every facet of it, IMO
chattels: “You have power over your mind - not outside events. Realize this, and you will find strength.” ― Marcus Aurelius
chattels: “The happiness of your life depends upon the quality of your thoughts.” ― Marcus Aurelius
OOTW: SO TRUE CHATTELS
chattels: “The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.” ― Marcus Aurelius
OOTW: EVERYONE BUTIFLDRM IS GOING TO COME INTO THE CHAT ROOM SOON TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT SOMETHING
chattels: excerpts from Marcus Aurelius, Meditations
[07:01:30 PM] OOTW: ANYONE THAT WANTS TO LEARN MORE ABOUT SOME "HEDGES" WITH THE POTENTIAL FORTHCOMING ECONOMIC CHANGES, MAY BE INTERESTED IN WHAT SHE HAS TO SAY
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