[Papa Bear] Gm Dinar Family .I need to address someting this morning.Please take note of the Bluwolf post and the very end of it is a little out of character. There is a reason he is angry because SCAMS have begun heavy again in Reno and many are giving up their Dinar
We have warned many times but due to the panic situation of many presently their entire holding of Dinar are being scamed. You read Tony yesterday and his little journey into Reno Well I recieved emails from 3 asking about exchanges for cash immediately in Reno
[Papa Bear] Folks under the situations described your Dinar goes BYE_ BYE to a paymasxter with him being in control of when youre paid .NHow this is becoming heavier because of scam artist having $$ signs in their eyes.
[kathyms3] Papa Bear Thank you I read Bluwolf earlier and understood what he was saying. But seems like we can never have to many reminders of the evil that exist to steal away from others.
[Papa Bear] Please Family this has been to long and hard of a road for you to give your Dinar to someone
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[1biz4u] Papa Bear will the 800# operators send us to a location with a delarue machine without asking?
[Papa Bear] 1biz4u U ask for nearest C?E center with machine if u wish. Please remember they want your business.I wont use Bluwolf"s strong wording but he doesnt want you folks hurt either
[misskitty05] I can't understand why anyone would hand over their dinars to anyone other than at a bank or dealer ... we've been warned so many times... be smart peeps!
[Jamison] This has been happening for almost 3 weeks, everyday we are dealing with it, Nobody yet has ever completed a deal like this, some have sent there dinar away and still have not seen it back or have not got funded
[Papa Bear] Please please please know u belong to a strong group who is not fractionalizing which these scam folks are saying. STAND YOUR GROUND!!
1biz4u] Jamison the 800# operator should be sending us to a ce center that can handle exchange without sending it off, is this your understanding too?
[Jamison] 1biz4u yes
[Papa Bear] 1biz4u U are correct and should have C?E in your account at bank when u leave
[Jamison] 1biz4u I personally will not be removed from my dinar at the bank
[Papa Bear] Folks this is simple .Please dont be robbed at this point by scam artist. You have been trained
[teochi] misskitty05 absolutely, I don't care what my circumstances are, I have waited to long for this blessing to give up now, in for the long haul extradinaire lol
[teochi] Papa Bear someone would have to pry my dinar out of my cold dead hands before they would get it lol
[Papa Bear] teochi Some are having large amounts pryed out of their hands as we speak
[Prissynell] they should know better
[Jamison] This is real simple, everytime there seems there is a window, there is a push to do this, they claim early cashout for a low number, they have you on contract , if it rv's you are obligated by contract to do deal even if rv is more, they make out on commissions and your stuck with a low rate
[Prissynell] I have had opportunities but would not take them
[Jamison] If it does not rv your sitting waiting with excuse after excuse
[teochi] Papa Bear yes, that is so sad and such a crime, but I guess some are desparate and haven't learned, it is their lesson in life, i pray for all to be wise and discerning thru the end of our journey
[#3sister] It's because people are discouraged and desperate .
[Papa Bear] Yes I am growling loud and clear Pain is being replaced with MORE PAIN THAT IS LONG LASTING and life changing for many
[misskitty05] I understand that people are desperate for cash but losing all of their dinars will not help their circumstances ... they do not end up with any cash with these schemes :(
[Prissynell] yes and I have heard when you send your dinar in if returned you get fakes
[Papa Bear] misskitty05 The cash they are promised is not there after C?E
[sananddan24] Prissynell these people need to be arrested, just saying!
[Jamison] Do not let people you think you respect on the boards , talk you into these situations. when it happens, we will all be blessed
[Papa Bear] I feel SOOO BAD for these FOLKS
[sananddan24] Jamison great advice!
[BigDog-OH] Papa Bear I beleive I will be safe at the location the call center sends me to
[Papa Bear] Use your discernment and own mind.
[Jamison] What has been communicated to date, is when it happens, it will be setup to run smoothly and it will be safe. Don't worry about the outside opinions and fear tactics, it will be fine
[BigDog-OH] There are some that do not believe that the G64 group is valid.
[Jamison] BigDog-OH IMEO, the banks will profit more if they get you in on street rate, so IMEO there is a misinformation push to drive people to not use the group.
[Jamison] BigDog-OH It is very valid, and a very good option if it fits your situation
[Papa Bear] Folks many of Folks are trying to do own deals and get folks with them . I could use names but wont. It seems $$ signs are many places and folks wanting to negotiate deals for you. STAND FIRM
[BigDog-OH] misskitty05 My point is, I do not think you have to move the money at your CE appointment... we will have plenty of time to do that a later appointments
[sananddan24] Misskitty05 I would also recommend cashiers checks at some point...and use several banks
[misskitty05] BigDog-OH the push to move peeps away from the G64 group started when the other banks began squawking about not getting a piece of the action. There has to be some mechanism to push some people to other banks. Badmouthing the group is that mechanism.. obvious to those who have followed this imo
[sananddan24] Misskitty05 exactly
[BigDog-OH] misskitty05 You hit the nail on the head
[Papa Bear] misskitty05 GREAT POST and u will remember I warned this would happen
Jamison] If you hire professionals, and do your homework, everything will be fine, dont be so scared about the fear that has been talked about in the banking systems, there are rich people now that dont live day to day fearing whats going on. Be smart and live your life. ITs not as bad as portrayed
[Papa Bear] Jamison GREAT POST
[sananddan24] For those that have reservations about the Gen64 group is very simple, while waiting for your appt after the RV...call or visit other banks for rates...before your ce at WF...
[@theend] misskitty05 Just scrolled through and read....wouldn't opening an account, immediately closing it to open another still have an electronic trail? A bank does everything electronically don't they?
[Papa Bear] Remember my advice of asset allocation by class and location. Use your safety mechanism
[ready4riches] Papa Bear metals, commodities, real estate? TY
[misskitty05] Papa Bear what safety mechanisms?
[Papa Bear] misskitty05 Spreading the green in the Forest in lots of places and vehicles .
skitty05] Papa Bear diversification!
[Papa Bear] misskitty05 Yes
[tb30] Hi all! As I understood it, CE into one acct. for IQN and one acct for VND, use those as your "mother load" accts., without internet access. Then move money into different accts as needed. Such as a household acct for bills. Get cashier checks for examples to pay-off cars and give donations
[TexasMom] Please seek professional advice on tax matters. If this is indeed a capital gains tax you have a period to reinvest those gains... IMO
[Papa Bear] TexasMom Good advice