[Papa Bear] GM Dinar Family I will try to straighten out the group leader question and then step aside and let the Dr of our castle take controlt
[Papa Bear] First there are many group leaders out in Reno such as Baker, Masters and others which have groups under them. The large group which Studley was front man for and not negotiator was asked a long time ago to prove the number of Dinars that the negotiator represented.
[Papa Bear] To do that task group leaders were put together such as the Generals64. There were several group leaders who responded by sending in names and amounts to Studley who forwarded to the negotiator for PROOF that the negotitor did in fact represent a large amount of clients with varying amounts of Dinar.
[Papa Bear] Once that was recieved the bank realized who they were dealing with and started negotiations. All the different group leaders people are no longer group leaders BUT when the E-Mail comes out with the 800# then the group leaders will do their final job of getting the email to the people who trusted them and gave the group leaders their name and amounts
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wolverine7] Papa Bear We had to do the same thing with our very large group.
[Papa Bear] None of us like to be called group leaders because we are ALL a part of a much bigger group with more negotiating power
[Robertprofessor] Papa Bear Since all of the group leaders came together at a point in time, one negotiator did the deal cutting, and all will recieve the same instructions and rate, can we properly say there is really only one group? (Not meaning PP groups like Baker, etc.)
[MtnStar] Robertprofessor I keep hearing lots of things about Baker - his group is one of those pp's? and Good Morning
Robertprofessor] MtnStar If my memory of Jester's big picture statements is correct, I think he said there are about 70 groups, of which Baker is one, that are part of tier 2. What needs to be accomplished with all of them before us is what is happening now and is nearly done.
[MtnStar] Robertprofessor I do not believe that the RV/CE has anything to do with these PPs
[Robertprofessor] MtnStar Right. That's a tier 2 group that really has nothing to do with us in a direct way.
[countryboy] Papa Bear what repercussions if any could there be from the UST for by-passing them and the funds going directly to China?
[Papa Bear] countryboy No repercussions from UST because this is being handled properly and WF is waiting for release to bring clients in .Remember folks our Treasury has lots of Dinars itself
[Papa Bear] Papa Bear Robertprofessor We are All part of this LARGE Group now from when u signed up we are part of a third party placement with us being seller WF being the bank handling transaction and most know who the buyer is
[Papa Bear] We are not required to go with WF and this transaction but this is free to all
[starbucksrules] Papa Bear Papa Bear With all of that you are telling us.....are you indicating we could (possibly) get our email in a few hours, or something?
[Papa Bear] starbucksrules No Im not… there has been a extreme amount of confusion on groups and group leaders. Just trying to clear air
[Papa Bear] starbucksrules You know answer NO rate or date person. Remember folks I put on my pants like you and am no different than anyone else.
[Papa Bear] starbucksrules IMHO ITS VERY SOON WHY IM trying to clean up as much confusion as possible now
[Robertprofessor] Papa Bear So in a broad sense we can say all are in one group ... excluding PP groups?
[Papa Bear] Robertprofessor PP and RV are totally different
[misskitty05] Papa Bear will all of the groups under the "negotiator" receive their emails at the same time?
[Papa Bear] misskitty05 Yes after Okie graduation letter
[MtnStar] Papa Bear thank you - this has been what I have known too.
[19rue] Papa Bear Though PP and RV are different, does one depend on the other?
[Readynow] Papa Bear are PP still going out? ty
Papa Bear] Folks nothing is wrong. Im just trying to answer some of your questions on groups
[Papa Bear] Folks SQ has our castle for all folks and all opinions are valued here. I have chosen to be here because of the fact I feel she and many of her mods are great ladies and men who value each other even if the views are different
[coder] I am assuming that most of us are savvy enough to not open attachments on emails but I wanted to raise a red flag. I have been receiving emails claiming to be from Wells Fargo Advisors. These are not real. Do not open any of the attachments.
[Papa Bear] Its very important to me for All of you to go in with swagger and your plan knowing what you want to do
[Terri] Papa Bear Swagger or stagger ??? LOL
[Papa Bear] NO STAGGER YOU FOLKS WERE CHOSEN FOR THIS BLESSING AND HAVE WORKED HARD FOR IT
[Terri] Papa Bear We are soooooo ready>>> God & Me !!!
[Papa Bear] Terri We all are
[tradewind] Papa Bear Do you believe when we go to CE we only CEing and not adjusting funds but putting in one account then meet with other department to invest and secure plan
[Papa Bear] tradewind Embed your funds properly
[Papa Bear] TY All for having a listening ear.
[starbucksrules] Papa Bear Papa Bear There is NO sence on being (Mentaly Prepared) any more. You know day after day.....week after week.....so on.....we are advised on the same things! But......we become NUMB to ALL of it Papa!!! As it NEVER happens for us!! Its just that simple!
[Readynow] starbucksrules disagree with that. I'm past ready, BUT not mentally numb. I plan on being ready
[Papa Bear] starbucksrules This point I dont like OUR Dinar Family to be CONFUSED
[jroot] Anyone in this thing has felt the pain of getting their hopes up, many like me are in dire straights, plz don't take frustrations out on those trying to help people they owe you no explanation
[Papa Bear] starbucksrules You sound like u have lost faith in your original investment
[Robertprofessor] Papa Bear Do you have anything you can tell us about how we will learn the group rate? Sounds like each will find out at the CE appointment but after we sign the NDA. That has caused concern. Do you have anything on this?
[foggy01] Robertprofessor Do you really believe in a "do not disclose agreement"?
[Papa Bear] Robertprofessor Time will tell. There will be a NDA u will have to sign IMHO.
[Robertprofessor] foggy01 Yes, for the group rate at WF, I'm prepared to sign a NDA.
[Robertprofessor] Papa Bear That's when we will need to have our thinking caps on.
[Papa Bear] Robertprofessor Yes this is a large business transaction and discretion and thought has to be used
[Robertprofessor] foggy01 I plan to use the NDA as my last line of defense against anyone pushing me on why I no longer need a job. I have several other things in mind to state, but if I have to say, I signed a NDA and can't tell you anything, I'll use it.
[Papa Bear] Robertprofessor All contracts like this have an ND with TIME LIMITATION PART OF ND
[sunny] For any contract to be legal it has to have a time period. NDA too.
[Robertprofessor] Papa Bear Do you have a sense of how long that time limitation will be? I'm guessing about six months.
[Papa Bear] Robertprofessor Shortterm to let winds blow for awhile
[Robertprofessor] I will take the terms of the NDA very serious and not violate them.
[Papa Bear] Robertprofessor ALL MUST TAKE TERMS VERY SERIOUSLY >THIS IS A BUSINESS TRANSACTION
[Boaz] Papa Bear the NDA worries me. Could the bank then do what they want with my money and I would have no recourse?
[sandytob] Boaz an NDA just holds you to privacy regarding their rates, etc. It does not give them free reign to do illegal things. Not related.
[spiritfilled] " Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen."...Hebrews 11:1
[Readynow] I'm finding it really hard to understand how some can be down. We know the big boys have been processed, we know some of the groups are going in, we know that some of the pp's are being delivered--goodness, what is there to be down about?.
[redhead1] Readynow - we really do not know that - there is alot of information that no one has exchanged - the whales and the platforms do not have their monies yet.
[Papa Bear] redhead1 Great read . IMHO NO ONE WILL RECIEVE THEIR FUNDS UNTIL ALL RELEASED TO GO TO BANKS
[socalcutie] Papa Bear i wanted to thank you as i rarely speak when you are here. isn't it up to each of to listen, absorb and learn. we have to be flexible as with any project it lives and breathes and changes - fluidity. its is disheartening after years of learning, that some give up or stop believing in the opportunity we attached ourselves too.
[Papa Bear] socalcutie GREAT POST AND IM IN AGREEMENT
[redhead1] PapaBear - have you heard that Wells Fargo is opening a special division to deal with people who have over $50 m in funds and will provide all services from attorneys to financial advisers?
Papa Bear] redhead1 Doesnt surprise me one bit. THEY WANT AND NEED YOUR BUSINESS
[massman1] Papa Bear how are we going to know if the group rate WF gives us is the actual rate??
[Papa Bear] massman1 Go to your appointment and take home copy of deposits to original and imbeded account. Also take home CCCs
[sunny] massman1 We do our homework. We;ll know the street rate and dealer rates and if you don't like or doubt WF group rate don't do CE with them.
[Papa Bear] massman1 Because it will be abundantly high.LOL
[Robertprofessor] Papa Bear rofl In other words, we will know the street rate before we go to our appointment, and there will be a noticeable gap between it and the rate we will be told AFTER we sign the NDA.
[socalcutie] Papa Bear the biggest part of the CE is the AFTER PARTY and the places were decide to divest into and the help we will need. Good advice you are been giving for a long time.
[Papa Bear] socalcutie Absolutely RIGHT. Each of you should have your own needs basic plan
[blackjon] the best advice I've seen in here all day is to call around to see what the other rates are before you go in… please please make sure you do that . and you will be very surprised
[Hoosier Girl] Papa Bear IYO do you think the WF rate will be highest we can get period?
[socalcutie] Robertprofessor IMO because of the privte transaction we will enter with WF, no other bank could match the rate we will receive even tho those rates may be better than the street rate, stil not a private placement rate
[Papa Bear] blackjon That works for me .
[countryboy] Papa Bear I find it hard to believe that you would sign a document and not know its contents.
[Papa Bear] countryboy You read the document first and then u have the option of signing the document or walking. Folks all of us are FREE.
[socalcutie] Papa Bear and WF has no reason not to give each the same rate, they know we will find out if they didn't. no reason to create a problem
[Papa Bear] socalcutie I understand and that support may show up in future time will tell
[..SweetQueen] PAPA BEAR THANK YOU FOR THE EXPLANATION CONCERNING THE GROUP LEADERS.
[..SweetQueen] THERE IS MUCH CONFUSION ON THIS BOARDS AND I FOR ONE APPRECIATE YOU PROVIDING CLARITY REGARDING THAT TOPIC.
[..SweetQueen] AND NO THERE ARE NOT 70 GROUPS, THE 70 COMES FROM THE NUMBER OF PROGRAMS.