[Papa Bear] Ok folks seems a need to talk about China
[Papa Bear] SO IMHO puppylove here we go.
[puppylove] Papa Bear Im ready
[Papa Bear] China is a country which the population is growing very quickly and needs our help to feed and change.
[Papa Bear] The population is being ask to move from a rural population into an urban /suberban population.
[MandaK] Papa Bear DrRod said in recaps be ready what does everyone mean by be ready and have your paper work ready? dont i just take my IQD to W/F and exchange it?
[Jester] hi castle mods, peeps, lurkers, and critters! no need to say hi... let's continue with the discussion... i am here to help PB if i can...
[Robertprofessor] Papa Bear is explaining the big picture of China to us now.
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[Papa Bear] Know are they hacking us for our intelligence probably but u know we can help them turn into a consumtion population that is thriving. .
[Papa Bear] Now heres the question why cant we live peacefully with them and also learn from them.
[drl] Papa Bear The lion will lie down with the lamb!
[Papa Bear] Their long term planning and patience is much greater than ours IMHO
[misskitty05] Papa Bear we need to work with them and they with us. We live in a global economy and neither country will thrive without the other. imo
[Jester] Papa Bear excellent question... we have been brainwashed to a certain extent in our thinking toward them...
[Papa Bear] drl Very intelliigent summarization
[Papa Bear] misskitty05 Yes a GLOBBAL Society. It doesnt say we have to have the same beliefs or ways. Yes we are different BUT we can work united and better with our weaknesses
[tradewind] Jester Papa Bear why is the UST allowing the group rate by this third party if they know its going east
[greasee5] tradewind who does the US owe trillions to? Imho
[Jester] tradewind it is a good plan for all involved... in the course of the transaction everyone gets what they want....
[drl] Jester Indluding us! lol
[Jester] drl exactly
[Papa Bear] tradewind U are a very short period of time away from the US being energy self sufficient and could be now if we decided to use our resources rather than middle east
[deb2blessed] Papa Bear IMO that is the key to our countries success-- energy independence… or faliure if we continue to rely on others
[tc0043] Jester GM Great chat last night. Is the process progressing?
[drl] Papa Bear the problem is who the "we " are that decide!
[Jester] texan1 tc0043 we are talking about china... will get back to you on that...
[wingnaprayer] Papa Bear Jester We have heard several times that China wants this done and was pushing the US to get this completed. Now we know that part of the puzzle was China and the gold this weekend. So am I correct in assuming that as far as China is concerned the US is "done"?
[Jester] wingnaprayer don't assume that... the process with them is complicated... that was a big part of it... but there is still some 'swiping' to do for lack of a better term... people have to do certain things in the process... to make sure funds are transferred to where they are needed in order for the process to continue...
[wingnaprayer] Jester Funds transfer can usually be done very quickly so hopefully no long drawn-out process?
[Jester] wingnaprayer people have to be where they are needed to get it done... travel is sometimes involved...
[mailboxmoney] Papa Bear do we even know where the gold is or if we even still have it? I watched something on history channel about doubts we even had the gold?
[Papa Bear] The oil demand out of China is getting ready to expand exponentially and the oil credits from Iraq will help the meet their demand
[drl] Papa Bear Bingo!!
[Robertprofessor] Papa Bear Jester This is an excellent discussion, and one that we need to know more about. Ty
[timw] Papa Bear...why so imperative now for us to be energy independent when we will have so many petro dollars from the dinar?
[Papa Bear] timw The petro credits will be bought from us on the C/E which will relieve our budget deficit and then hopefully get our own congressmen to move forward with long term plans and changes nesessary
[tc0043] Papa Bear Will china purchase the VND at a group rate in order to buy oil from Viet Nam?
[Papa Bear] tc0043 IMHO YES
[myprayerrealized] Papa Bear I understand that in 20 years, China's oil consumption will equal what the entire world is using today.
[drl] myprayerrealized fosel fuels will not play the same role in 20 years!
[myprayerrealized] drl Perhaps, but still will be important to all countries, imo
[Papa Bear] myprayerrealized U are correct so u can see why 3rd party private placement happening. All take their opportunities
[funtimes] tc0043 I don't know about the credits but vietnam hasn't much oil.
[funtimes] China is/ has built a pipeline straight thru Burma into the southern region of China. This will allow them to transport form ME and not have to go thru straights of Millacca
[Papa Bear] Folks time passing will bring great opportunities for all. IMHO. Probably more so for my children and grandchildren
[Papa Bear] and Yours
[Papa Bear] Jester Cover for a minute please
[Jester] Papa Bear you got it...
[Diogenes] The Chinese in addition to being very patient, are also forward thinkers. They know what is going on, and while in the near future they may have a great need for oil, I believe they have the technology to replace petroleum. The Chinese also know they need to take control of the oil industry away from the Cabal families who also controlled banking. Is this part of their plan? JMO
[Jester] Diogenes agreed... it makes a lot more sense for them to get thier oil from iraq that it does for us.... we have the capabilty to ramp up our own production...
[tc0043] Jester Is everyone cooperating in the finalization of the process?
[ready4riches] Jester when we do the ce will we get the same rate as others who may have a lot more dinar than we do? iyo of course
[Papa Bear] puppylove Diogenes Changes there also as Jester will agree
[drl] Jester It appears that natural gas is going to be a force to be reckoned with in the US in the near future!
[Jester] drl yes a lot of technology exists to take advantage of that and our reserves are massive...
[funtimes] For anypne who's interested. A chart of proven oil reserves as of Feb 2013
[Jester] Papa Bear i agree and that is the truth
[Diogenes] Jester Papa Bear Thank you both for you answer. :)
[Papa Bear] Most of u know Im not a conspiracy world person… but that doesnt mean Ive never been
[cookieb] Papa bear lol
[ezmuny] what is all this about income tax? your not getting income ,your exchanging a foriegn currency for our currency. Isn't it just like buying and selling when you go on vacation to another country? just a dumb ol country boy! lol
[snowwolfsdee] ezmuny my feelings exactly
[blessedinohio] I know dates and rates aren't going to be discussed, but everywhere we're seeing any second, minute, or day now. I'm getting the feeling this could very well take weeks and June might be our month but we might want to chill and stop this moment by moment stuff...Is that a possiblity?
[drl] blessedinohio Not really! LOL!
[mojavesam] blessedinohio no way..
[ezmuny] blessedinohio i dont think so !!lol
[Papa Bear] Folks lots on NEW World will be seen once RESET finalized. BUT once again it wont be ALL at once. You can only absorb small portion at a time
[Papa Bear] blessedinohio NO
[Jester] blessedinohio keep the faith... the end is near...
[blessedinohio] Jester Papa Bear I WANT to believe you...I guess where decisions need to be made, we have to assume worst case and move forward with life. I'm praying for 'before Friday'!
[Papa Bear] Jester OH so TRUE… if only knew
[Robertprofessor] Papa Bear "Rome was not built in a day." What is under development now will dwarf the accomplishments of the Roman Empire. This is an excellent discussion this morning. Thank you again.