dakotaman: D - the banks are doing the right thing but the banks ougtta say nothing
godsgrace: D - the laymen - the normal person we think because we're dealing in currencies that the banks have some sort of authority.
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: hope some of you who believ bank stuff... we think because we deal with currencies, they have some knowledge... but they know less then we do
godsgrace: D - the bank presidents in many banks in many cases know less than we do.
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: they don't know what we know... they don't follow the news like we do
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: I sit with bankers and have to explain things to them... they have no clue...
dakotaman: D - the banks really do not have any idea of what going on. (Very true)
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: not hear to educate all those people (bankers)...
godsgrace: D - I was sitting with a banker last week as I stupidly asked does anyone here in your bank deal with foreign currency. they didn't even know that they were off the terrorist list.
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: Hope we start understanding that bankers are speculators just like us.
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godsgrace: D - you can not trust the banks to be any more than speculators just like us.
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: the higher-ups in the world... are the ones controlling it
godsgrace: D - the higher ups in the world whatever you want to call them are the ones that are controlling this thing.
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: when they are ready, we believe soon, we'll see the shift
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: gold/silver / EURO / Greece.... these things indicate 2013 is crazy...
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: reality trying to figure out how much longer... we wereen't supposed to be here... we are guessing/assuming
dakotaman: D - the higher ups are controlling this, waiting for MaLIKI to do his dance. Waiting for certain things to happen.
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: prob is the info is skewed.. most of it is misinfo...
godsgrace: D - We're trying to figure out how much longer it is to wait before the party starts. We're guessing, we're assuming, we're acting like we know because of the information we have. The problem is that even the info is skewed.
godsgrace: G - the reason we brought this up is because we know we have a lot of our listeners here. We want to nip it in the bud.
KnightWhoSaysNi: g: reason bring it up... we know alot of listeners hear from other sources... nip it in the bud directly... go bak to Kuwait
godsgrace: G - go back to Kuwait - there was so much misinformation up unti the day before it happened.
KnightWhoSaysNi: g: announcements right before it happened, they said it wasn't happening and Royal fam was abdicating...
KnightWhoSaysNi: g: announcements right before it happened, they said it wasn't happening and Royal fam was abdicating...
KnightWhoSaysNi: g: not sure the banks are changing their position....but all of sudden hear it, could be disheartening... but we believe it is more like a Kuwait mis-info campaign
godsgrace: G - I'm not sure why this change of position with the different position with the different banks. Maybe they are trying to get the mis info out f
dakotaman: G - the reason why we brought this up is because alot of the members have heard this and we wanted to nip this in the bud. When Kuwait went the day before they announced that it was definately not gonna happen.
KnightWhoSaysNi: g: concerned about employees or long lines at banks... they don't want to lose their employees
godsgrace: G - Banks do not want their employees to be involved - cashing in and disappearing on them,
KnightWhoSaysNi: g: downplay what is actualy being heard (for their employee benefits)
godsgrace: G - as far as I'm concerned it is not accurate information
KnightWhoSaysNi: g: when we shared with economists.... they agree can't go that long
godsgrace: G - With all the situations going on there is no way it can go that long.
dakotaman: G - mAs far as I am concerned it is misinformation. Economists say it can not go on that long.
KnightWhoSaysNi: g: there is no way it can last that long... basically those who advised before said we would see more chaos in banking systems... now banks/countries are defaulting and having problems
godsgrace: G - for all of a sudden for them to say it's not going to happen I have a hard time believing that.
dakotaman: G - we know that there has been alot of work thats been done for this NOT to happen.
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: agree... don't believe the hype...
OMGosh. tony and dan, now t/d and gary have been saying the econ cannot go on for the past 14 months..... is this logic really sound?
godsgrace: T - Dan could be right -
dakotaman: T - DONT believe the HYPE.
godsgrace: T - the banking info we received has all been good info and all been a learning process.
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: that banking info has been good, all been a learning process how this whole thing was coming together
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: learned alot this year
godsgrace: T - even though it hasn't happened yet we've learned a lot over this last year.
godsgrace: T - over the last year we've learned about the process step by step
godsgrace: T - you've heard numbers from $3 to $50 so whatever it is we're not blown away
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: learned about process.... heard things keeping us from getting too excited... evolve as financial experts... get prepared
godsgrace: T - we've been able to evolve ourselves as financial experts
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: put plans together... it just hasn't happened yet.
dakotaman: T - over the last year we learned alot about the process. We have been able to prepare ourselves.
godsgrace: T - all that again has been very good info to me. It just has not happened yet.
godsgrace: T - how do the banking systems handle chaos?
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: they will have to deal with chaos... (banks).... don't think the world PTB... financial systems would have gone thru what it went thru last week, only to put it off for another year
godsgrace: T - I don't think the world powers that be the financial system around the world would have went through what they went through last week only to put this off for a year
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: so what are we doing?
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: got info from DC... still believe it
dakotaman: T - this may just be the banks way of how do we handle the chaos
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: makes sense to me... waiting for a decision on M
godsgrace: T - Last week I got info from Washington, I still believe that is the info and that is we're waiting on a decision on Maliki
godsgrace: T - they say the RV itself is out of Iraq's hands. That makes perfect sense to me
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: the RV is out of Iraq's hands... makes sense to me... they've done what they are suppsoed to do... it is sitting wait to go... don't know when it is...
godsgrace: T - everyone has done what they needed to do and it's sitting there waiting to go at a moment's notice.
dakotaman: T - We are waiting on a decision on what is going with Maliki. The RV is out of Iraq's hands.
godsgrace: T - the real decision is do we let it go at 12:00?
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: the real decision... do we let it go at 12:00... with M with all these assets, and he hasn't changed the power structure, does that make sense? No
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: spoken to the 4 leaders... they've all come together and agree, but lets give one more change to slip the noose... or else we'll take the action
godsgrace: T - two of the four groups have already asked to go in and take out Maliki.
godsgrace: T - it's a set up - now they realize they can't handle it.
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: 2 of the 4 groups asked US to intervene... now they realize they can't handle it, and we need your help...
dakotaman: T - lets give him (M) one more chance to slip the noose.
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: not going to roll tanks back in... that would create chaos and delay things further...
godsgrace: T - we're not going to roll tanks and troops back in because that will create chaos.
dakotaman: Sorry my system extremely slow now
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: but like Libya / Turkey...
godsgrace: T - This is where Libya comes in saying we're going to back Kurdistan
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: Erbil needs to be implemented "immediately"... from the UN
godsgrace: T - what Maliki is doing is hurting their country - hurting their economy. This is what's holding us up.
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: this is what is holding us up... to do it the right way
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: it is not smart to do without that final piece
godsgrace: T - the RV can take place right now. Is it smart to do without that final piece
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: according to their news, given the offiical notice on the 3rd... and it was for 2 weeks...
godsgrace: T - According to the news this thing should be over by the 17th
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: so... it could go sooner, but we know the timeline
dakotaman: T - Un sayin Erbil needs to be implimented instantly. The RV can hapen this very minute, everything signed, but is it the right time with M still in power?
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: limo or hearse... believe that is all we are waiting for... will he take it to the wire? dont know
godsgrace: T - The question is when are they going to do it.
godsgrace: T - did they have their meeting on Monday and we're waiting on an answer in order to go pubiic?
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: did they have the meeting Sun/Mon? and we're waitign for it to go public? will it all go public at exact same time? it could be the next 4 hours...
godsgrace: T - if everything comes to light it could be in the next 4 or 5 hours
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: that's where I think we are... banks are frustrated just like us
godsgrace: T - they thought the final decision was coming too but it just hasn't come yet.
dakotaman: T - I know the banks are frustrated because they are.
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: feel like giving our dissertation....so much strong opinion on what's happening
godsgrace: D - there's so much opion of what's going on
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: this is coming from people smarter then ourselves... have learned difference between World Bank, BIS, etc...
godsgrace: D - I'm not a financial expert. I have learned the difference in the IMF and all the different things since we've started this.
dakotaman: D - thats what PTR is all about us talkin with ppl smarter than us.
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: gary you said something you said... can't wait till 2013... but we've heard it couldn't last to 2011, now we are in 2012...
godsgrace: D - If I was a member and heard all this 2013 talk...we said we couldn't make it till 2011 and then we said we could not make it until 2012.
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: what did we find out early 2011, they were still on OFAC list... duh... why did we think they could back then
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: so what do we see today.. (that we didn't know and what have now learned)...
godsgrace: D - all these little bity things we got educated on in the beginning. All the structures that we've learned about. All the things we've learned as a team, now we know because of what we've learned there is now validation.
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: there is more validation that 2013 seems more crazy...
dakotaman: D - We have learned so many things that we didn't know. As a team we have learned about so many factors that we never even considered.
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: right now sitting in position... we get calls from people telling us this/that is happening, and we don't believe we have proper info...
godsgrace: D - right now we're sitting in a position getting calls from ppl telling us this that or the other is happening and I don't believe we have proper info.
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: tony said something also about who is controlling this... where Iraq was politically / financially
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: there is another piece... talking about what US had to prove with Iraq... remember the largest embassy in the world... but for us to pull out...
godsgrace: D - As you Tony started talking about the pull out that made me think about how much money was put into the infrastructure to get this done.
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: it was basically to watch yourselves fail... you are going to have to ask for our assistance... then and only then would you be ready to reval your currency... there are things we don't know (Rumsfield recording)...
godsgrace: D - I still belive we're at the edge of this taking place this week. There's a lot of things we think we know that we don't know.
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: this is crazy... not here to predict future, but make sense of present.
godsgrace: D - we're not here to predict the future but we're here to try to make sense of the present and that's difficult at times.
dakotaman: D - not here to predict the future but make sense of the present
godsgrace: G - this is a fluid process and it's so many dynamics that can change the rules
KnightWhoSaysNi: g: correct... this is a process, fluid... so many dynamics that can change rules... have to be aware of
KnightWhoSaysNi: g: things change and are impacting other things
godsgrace: G - there's things that we don't know but even if we did, because it's a fluid process if we stick our hand in it changes the process.
godsgrace: G - when we look at what's going on with Iran and other countries around there, we should look at this and expect change.
KnightWhoSaysNi: g: neighborhood changes (iran, etc.)... then talks about more currency needed... readjustments... we should expect change..
KnightWhoSaysNi: g: it is never something completely finished...
godsgrace: G - what we're looking at is a process - it's never something completely finished.
godsgrace: T - and it won't be finished until it's finished.
godsgrace: G - what we're looking at is a process - it's never something completely finished.
godsgrace: T - and it won't be finished until it's finished.
dakotaman: G - This is so fluid with so many different dynamics it is difficult to predict.
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: we have unfair advantage, some things we still haven't talked about... not holding stuff back, some crazy, some make sense... on a global perspective
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: they are preparing things to become public
godsgrace: T - There's still things we've not talked about on this call and that's not to say we're holding things back but some of the things are crazy and you didn't want to hear it anyway - like this morning.
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: we'll say OMG. whoever thought this would happen... so it is fluid, it is changing
dakotaman: T - they are preparing to come public
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: then we hear, Turkey was asked to reduce oil from Iran, but then they increase it... so what does that do to all other structures...
godsgrace: T - everyday we hear from the banks - get ready, get ready, and then we hear we asked Turkey to reduce the amount of oil they are producing and instead of reducing they increased it.
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: how does the Iran / Turkey situation change things, formulaes change... happening constantly
godsgrace: T - now since Turkey's increasing that their forumla is a little different and now we've got to go back and deal with that.
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: I get calls, saying look for it in 2 hours... saying it is a go... we go thru same roller coaster
dakotaman: T - I still think we are there, Dan knows, Gary knows. We all go thru the same roller coaster you do.
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: but we try not to go as far down/up as some of you.... we don't control the situation... don't go up 95% / down...
godsgrace: T - Don't think we don't go through the same roller coaster you do but I try not to go as far up or down as you do. There's a margin - go up 5% go down 5% - don't go up or down 95%
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: know what you are going to do when it does happen.
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: know what you are going to do when it does happen.
godsgrace: T - it could happen any day - that's just the way you've got to look at it.
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: alot of people on board, listen to calls, who really hated me in the beginning... they were new... once I hit a year of baloney... started changing... I only got down twice... I never got down that low again
godsgrace: D - I was one of those 95% up/down guys but after a year I changed that.
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: that first bank deal that went south... was a big deal, that's when my mindset changed... that we are not going to get best info from banks
godsgrace: D - that first bank deal that went south - that's when my mind started changing that we didn't have a clue that we should not bet on the info from the banks.
dakotaman: D - This isnt all supposed to be about fun.
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: stay level keel... positive they have to revalue their currency
dakotaman: D - I usually believe its gonna happen the week we are in.
godsgrace: D - I usually believe that it's in the week that we live in because how could we go farther but Gary and Tony you just brought up some information that really needed to be taken into consideration to restructure things.
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: these countries/currencies fluctuate.... France is on the brink... they have to restructure things. Are we waiting on that? we just don't know
dakotaman: D - then G or T brings something else in.
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: take info and try to make things as positive as possible...
godsgrace: D - We just don't know. We take all the info we get to try to make it as positive as possible.
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: don't come here to shoot the bull (no pun intended)...
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: alot of people don't have lifeboats, and didn't plan for them
godsgrace: D - I don't come here to shoot the bull to just make the day filled with fluff
godsgrace: D - some ppl don't have life boats
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: cruise ships don't have lifeboats because they plan on sinking... it is the what-if...
dakotaman: D - Sometimes lifes a challenge, some ppl out there dont have lifeboats.
godsgrace: D - a lot of ppl came here saying it's going to happen anyway so why plan?
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: the bumps you live thru are part of the process
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: it is not all fun/games. we don't plan to make you feel good.... don't want anyone to feel bad...
godsgrace: T - it's not all fun and games - we don't plan to make you feel good but there's info out there and sometimes it's good info. It's not things we control and we don't just try to tell you the good stuff.
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: we don't control everything... there are good parts, just take it as it is
dakotaman: T - we dont plan on ppl feeling good there are bad things too butr I let Dan tell you that
godsgrace: T - can we try to lay it out there - look at the big picture and then wait for life to get better.
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: it is what it is... lay it out there, look at big picture... wait for life to get better. don't want people to think that, or go into a panci
godsgrace: T - things we are hearing is still good info.
godsgrace: T - the tariff was supposed to take place June 1
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: the tariffs were supposed to take place June 1... they haven't changed it... what has happened last 2 days... now they moved it back a month
godsgrace: T - what has happened in the last two days? They moved it back a month
godsgrace: T - if it was going to hurt their ppl and they moved it back to the first of July does it make any sense to have the RV in 2013? No
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: if it would hurt their people and they would move the tariffs, would they wait until 2013 to rv?
dakotaman: T - IMO personally do NOT believe it. The tariffs were supposed to happen June 1st. Now they have moved it to the first of July.
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: can't last that long... no it absolutely cannot
godsgrace: T - We look at the meetings, we look at what's going on and the info we have. I think we're right on track.
dakotaman: T - Can they wait till 2013 for this to happen? Answer is no, is bullpucky information
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: then we look at the meetings, and info we get... still think on track. still thnk this month... wouldn't be surprised between now and the 17th, if they wait till last hour
godsgrace: T - I would not be surprised between now and the 17th or on the 17th we'll see this thing happen.
KnightWhoSaysNi: g: lot of suggestions for subject line...
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KnightWhoSaysNi: t: there was a reason... the chaos, or losing their workforce
godsgrace: T - there is a reason for doing that. Whether it's the chaos or losing their work force - if you look at it from their side it makes sense.
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: good business sense doesn't make it right... for good business sense. they've screwed people out of mortgage.... not talking about individuals... institutions themselves. their's is to take from us
godsgrace: D - There could not be a more evil than the banks
godsgrace: D - wells fargo has jacked up peoples minds for many many many months
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: WF has jacked up everyone's minds/concepts... (prior to this)...
dakotaman: D - I am not a big advocate of the banks, not the ppl working there but the institution
KnightWhoSaysNi: (talking about banks and whether Dan is blackballed --- laughing)
godsgrace: D - I don't like any banking institution and if they don't like me I might go to a credit union
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: take some questions (from mods)?
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: be as candid as you want with them?
godsgrace: T - you guys be as candid as you want with the questions because that's how we're going to be with the answers
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: mods, you'll have to unmute... try and pick ones that would address more than 1 person
KnightWhoSaysNi: LJ: an explanation about global economy that it couldn't go till 2013... suggestion that right now economy is not growing, or decreasing... this member was saying... the global economy could crasy, maybe they are wanting this to happen
godsgrace: Q - are they wanting the economy to crash?
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: the world is still turning, we're stil here... somehow we'd still be here if it didn't happen till 2013... the highest power
godsgrace: D - the world is still turning...you're still here. We can't talk in impossibilities.
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: those that really control things...
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: whoever that is... if they want would econ to collapse, they would. but we'd still be here
godsgrace: D - whoever controls things if they wanted it to collaspe it would and then they would bring it back.
godsgrace: D - there are also some control things the US and England are still in power
godsgrace: D - Greece is not happy where they are now.
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: there are control factors that have been put in place. UK and US will still be dominant. All kinds of economic things going on, but we only have 10% of the real knowledge
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: don't know everything... it could go on, but unless world ends on 12/21/12...
dakotaman: D - If pppl in control want the world economy to fail it will, they will have a plan to bring it back for thier benefit
godsgrace: T - what is a factor is if they wanted that to happen they would not have put this plan together the way it is.
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: if they wanted it to happen, they wouldn't have put this plan together, they would just let things continue on as we were going... don't see that happening
godsgrace: T - I don't think that's part of the plan and I don't think we want to take the next 100 years to rebuild.
godsgrace: T - I do see that this whole 163 countries that something will be done sooner than later.
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: do see, what we are hearing, about what's goign on in other countries, what other countries plan on doing / revaluing... don't think EU can keep going on without it affecting us... like what would happen with Stock Markets...
godsgrace: T - I don't think we can go another 6 months looking at our stock market going done and something has to save Greece, France, et al and turn things around.
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: something has to intervene to fix all that... the global reset of currencies
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: not knowing all the factors... (talking about Mayan calendars...)
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: we don't have all the facts, but those we do have... gold/silver/oil / economies need this to change and there was a plan put in place to do all that
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: before we go on... the thread with collage of last few years
godsgrace: T - Did you look at the collage over the last two years?
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: one of our members took some excerpts of calls from past years, listened to it, majority thought it was funny.
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: thoought it was funny, but listened to it... we had no clue back then...
godsgrace: T - I enjoyed it myself - I thought it was great but for two years we had no clue what was happening.
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: every piece of info we got was saying "it had to be the end"...
godsgrace: T - it made me think about last week - whoever thought that this would be the piece holding it up. That this would knock the banks so out of whack that now we had to change another piece.
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: made me think about last week, the banking thing... who ever though this was going to the be the last piece... because of continuing changes... it could be happening next hour/next day, until something else happens
dakotaman: T - have you D or G look at the montage of the past two years? I have and I tghough man we in this for two years. Who we didn't know anything? We have come a long way and we are there, it could happen .
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: the banking system has gone thru same things (agencies / countries also)...
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: we're hearing it from other countries also...
godsgrace: T - that was a good review of where we are. If we've gone through this with you every day for the last 3 years - everyone else has gone though the same thing. Everybody is getting the same thing. Holland, Austria, Japan, we're all going through the same thing.
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: we are all going thru it together... say thank you for putting it together
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: will take time to look at it
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: it is kind of funny, if you can't laugh at yourself...
dakotaman: D - I will take a look at that
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: having something to do, keeping busy... time flies
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: gary?
KnightWhoSaysNi: g: winners: Southern Comfort... Carpet Man1... (missed the middle one)
dakotaman: D - winners southern comfort, carpetman1
KnightWhoSaysNi: m: if the US was the one who put M into office, has he gone rogue, or is he still following directions?
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KnightWhoSaysNi: d: we say M was put in power, believe it was true, but there are other countries who would have to be consulted
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: some had to get behind it also... if he went rogue... look at how many people want him out... he's asking for extension... if they wanted him out, he would have already been out, or they wouldn't given extensions
dakotaman: T - i don't have a better answer
godsgrace: T - if he was doing it for any reason for the US they would direct him not to.
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: if he was doing it under the directions of the US, then they would have just made the phone call and they wouldn't have come over here askign for help
godsgrace: T - if all they had to do was call him and it would be over then they would just call him
godsgrace: T - I'm extending my life sentence as long as I can before I have to walk the gallows.
godsgrace: T - I'm trying to get the best deal before I have to leave.
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: we know the inevitable, everything has to come to an end, but how much change....
dakotaman: T - we know the inevidible
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: (talking about The End movie)...
godsgrace: D - the movie The End - Dom DeLuise and Burt Reynolds.
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: Burt Reynolds... making promises to God.... then starts taking them back once it looks like he'll survive...
godsgrace: D - part in the movie where they're bargaining with God -if you will then I will but the closer he got to the shore the more he took back
dakotaman: D - talking about IRAQ and using THE END as an analogy
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: imagine the Iraqi's would do / promise anything to get rid of Saddam... once they get power back... they pretty much didn't really want to agree to do all they did agree to (or something close to that)...
KnightWhoSaysNi: m: ask about Interpol arrest warrant from Hashimi
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: don't know much
godsgrace: Q Interpol arrest warrent
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: they issued arrest warrant, but that is what they were supposed to do politically... he is in Turkey
dakotaman: D - I am not that aware of that, arrest warrant for Hashimi
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: that doesn't mean they willl take action on it, or that once Erbil is implemented it won't be necessary...
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: the fact that Allawi and others aren't chasing him... tells me they beleive him over Maliki
KnightWhoSaysNi: m: still feeling positive by May 17th? what intel can you now share that gives you that confidence?
dakotaman: T - see this by 5/17?
godsgrace: Q - Tony what intel can you share that gives you the confidence that we'll see this by May 17th
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: ummmm. the confidence is what we already talked about
godsgrace: T - that they gave him the 15 days
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: those 4 leaders know US / Turkey is backing it... they are giving him a way out, for his family to leave safely...
godsgrace: T - the 4 leaders already know the US is backing them and they gave him a way out
godsgrace: T - they've done everything over there to make this RV happen
dakotaman: T - ummm..... The confidence is in we know they gave M 15 days to put up or shut up, that they got backing by other countries
godsgrace: T - the other countries have already set their RV rates
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: banking/financial sectors have prepared things... and countries rates have been set, other countries know what they are going to be
godsgrace: T - they're not going to wait 6 more months to redo the forumula that makes this works
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: they don't want to redo the formulas, there was an exact reason that Gold went down, yesterday and today
godsgrace: T - there was a reason that gold went down yesterday and today and those are the things that I look at
KnightWhoSaysNi: m: about precious metals and price movement, what does it indicate?
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: there are certain things to watch and guage... always watch gold/silver, for spikes
godsgrace: D - there's certain things we can watch engage. I expect to see it spike up like crazy because it's going to fall or whether it's going to fall like crazy because it's about to fall. I believe we're going to see a crashing of gold.
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: believe we'll see a crashing of gold... they are great investments, but pawns
godsgrace: D - I believe silver is strong.
dakotaman: D - there are certain things that we can watch, I have been lookin a t gold. I believe we will see a crashing in gold. Silver will always be strong.
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: I like the competition
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: hope youve seen that (we'll take the credit)
dakotaman: Thanks D T and G
godsgrace: D - we've got two banners up there now but we have seen a change. I like the fact that a little competition is good.
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: was not in the plan before...
KnightWhoSaysNi: cg: on the folks that have won, is there a confirming email, or do we just send out dinar?
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: do send the dinar, and SF tickets stopped when it came off the banner... some have been confused... the SF event is full
godsgrace: Q - is there an email that goes out to the people that win the 10K dinar or do you just send it out?
godsgrace: D - we just send it out
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: there are some who can take your seat,
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: we are just counting butts-in-seats
godsgrace: D - SF was closed when the banner came down.
dakotaman: D - there are no more tickets to SF. They haven't in a while
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: we're not doing that anymore --- too many people
godsgrace: Q - members are interested in the privacy forms
KnightWhoSaysNi: m: privacy forms, agreements that members need to sign?
dakotaman: ? on privacy statement
godsgrace: D - Gary will we be ready with that Friday?
KnightWhoSaysNi: g: we'll be ready for this Friday
godsgrace: G - we will have it ready by Friday and we can send it out
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: it will be a link on Front Page of PTR
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: as a member, click/print/fax
godsgrace: D - there will be a link on the front page - as a member you will click on it and print it out and then you will fax it. Then we will send you an email.
godsgrace: D - you will be bound by a contract that you will NOT be sharing this.
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: we'll send out an email, with webinar codes, others will not get. you'll be bound by a contract that you cannot share with others... some will give codes away and we will monitor IP addresses, otherwise we can't get the caliber of people
dakotaman: G - it will be ready friday as a link on front page and you printit, sign it and fax back them recieve e-mail that you will not forward.
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: am excited about that (getting these calls together)...
dakotaman: T - did Dan say RV is tomorrow?
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: hope it revalues tomorrow, so we don't have to address this friday...
KnightWhoSaysNi: m: if news about 2013 made you change your mind
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: the RV itself and what we've been hearing, done done done... it is in the hands of the banking sector, when they get ready to do it
godsgrace: T - it is in the hands of the banking sector because they can do it when THEY get ready to do it.
godsgrace: T - now the powers that be are saying ok we have it but is it time to go?
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: all the IRaqi things have been signed off... they have it, but is it time to go...
CountryGirl59: There will be many informative webinars provided by PTR for BSP (Back Stage Pass) Members... for learning how to handle this money and such.....
dakotaman: T - RV itself done done done and is in hands of banking sector. Not in hands of IRAQ. NOW they are saying we have it but is now the time or wait to see what shapes up with Maliki.
godsgrace: T - what are they going to do with Maliki and how is it going to affect the country afterwards
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: but because there is only going to be 10 more days, does it make sense until they formalize and make it public, or do they go regardless... do we do the RV, money come out, have civil unrest, and goes right back down...
godsgrace: T - if they blow this now everyone has worthless money again. Do we do this or wait and give the country time to do what they are doing.
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: then we'd have worthless oil credits, and take another 15 years to rebuild ----- OR ------ do we wait and let the political process to do what they are doing...
godsgrace: T - our only question is has that already been accomplished so we can see the Rv today or tomorrow or do we wait until the 17th?
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: give that a little time... that makes sense... our only question is whether they've completed all those political steps already, or do we have to wait the full timeframe
dakotaman: G - norin pamela miss mc discipledan
godsgrace: WINNERS: Doren, Tamala, MrsMC Disciple Dan
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: it is a wed, middle of week... will be doing a call tomorrow. not sure topic. will be business situation. you'll help me
CountryGirl59: :::::::::::::::::::: Special Call with Dan on a business situation tomorrow at NOON EDT ::::::::
godsgrace: D - Tomorrows business call - 9PM CST 12PM Noon
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: communicate back forth come on bull and get instructions, will be recorded...
CountryGirl59: resolutions ...............There will be many informative webinars provided by PTR for BSP (Back Stage Pass) Members... for learning how to handle this money and such.....
esolutions I answered you already
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: just for those who want to hear about business.. fit a certain niche
godsgrace: D - have a good Wednesday and we will talk to you tomorrow
KnightWhoSaysNi: d: for myself, family... have a good Wednesday... talk tomorrow
godsgrace: T - It's gonna be a good day
KnightWhoSaysNi: t: it's going to be a good day... anything can happen today.. right place / right time....
godsgrace: T - I think we're in the right place at the right time.
dakotaman: T - its going to be a great day anything could happen today, we are in the right place
godsgrace: G - Members - a lot of misinformation out there - don't be misled by it
KnightWhoSaysNi: g: don't be misled by misinfo... more we hear the closer we are... bye till Friday, or earlier