10:04 PM [BGG] Wells Fargo sell rate - to you - today 4.029 per.
10:05 PM [chattels] DinarGroupie opinions from the vicinity of the head and heart are fine, it is points south that are problematic
10:06 PM [DinarGroupie] BGG, with all due respect, sir, I think the call goes better when you don't have Kaperoni on it. I think he dominates the call, and I can tell you don't really agree with him. I'd rather hear what you have to say than him. That's how I feel. And chattels, that was very funny!
10:07 PM [DinarGroupie] I noticed Kap cut in on you many times, whereas you were respectful and let him have his full say, BGG.
10:07 PM [nawlins] i like kaperoni a lot.
10:08 PM [BGG] There were some serious technical challenges tonite - I am in shock it even happened. I have had massive calls flop and I stammered a bit in the beginning while I was working the controls
10:08 PM [DinarGroupie] I thought you were fine, BGG. I didn't notice any stammering.
10:08 PM [faithdinar] poppy3 someone that is a pumper would not say that the VND is years away. They would say the opposite to get more sales I think.
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10:08 PM [poppy3] OK I THINK MOST HERE have heard me say many time i don't buy the rv coming out low and going high at all.. I understand their view point but that is not what the DR said. and about the dinar not being marketable at the higher price??? Well Shabibi stated they could actually sustain up to $14 plus against the USD .. Then they are not afraid of a run on the bank incountry KUWAIT WASN'T WHEN THEIRS CAME OUT HIGH AND EVEN WENT HIGHER before dropping 9 days later?? One to one doesnt help their revenue to rebuild their country.. THESE ARE JUST MY OBSERVATIONS so you make your own minds up about what to expect so you can plan ahead. poppy3
10:08 PM [mardom] Anyone who can type and keep their train of thought... is doing a pretty good job
10:09 PM [BGG] DinarGroupie - However, this call happened after a conversation he and I had the other day much like this and I felt it would be good to present the range of possibilities so folks are fully prepared. That is all.
10:09 PM [DinarGroupie] Poppy, I agree with you, and I was glad to hear BGG say that he is not abandoning you and your belief on it. That was important.
10:10 PM [poppy3] faithdinar i was saying people bring stuff here from sites that are pumping and that we have zero idea where this information came from so how could we give a ligitimate answer to that question??? poppy3
10:10 PM [JimmyD] poppy3 I can agree with that. they cant come in low makes no sense
10:10 PM [newshound] poppy3 I am with you on. Tks BGG for all you guys do
10:10 PM [b2stepblue] Poppy3---what is your view on the dong
10:11 PM [BGG] I have said from day one - I don't care where it come in at - I have an idea where it's headed. In fact, if it starts in the low three's I may leave a considerable amount in Dinars as I have an idea as to what will happen.
10:11 PM [stardusty] DinarGroupie I agree; If I wanted to hear Kap, I would be on his site; I joined this site because I thought BGG was big and bad enough to stand alone
10:11 PM [DinarGroupie] The problem with the one to one thing, is that they want the Iraqis to leave the dollar behind and embrace the dinar. They know the dollar is secure, and don't have the confidence in the dinar that Shabs wants. Coming in a one dollar rate would not entice the Iraqis to switch. I heard BGG mention that to Kap, but I think Kap skirted the issue.
10:11 PM [nawlins] BGG exactly
10:11 PM [milndollarbabe] well the higher rate makes sense from the standpoint of the reconstruction which is years behind schedule....we forget that they are still rebuilding their nation and a high rate would go further faster to ensure they achieved those goals
10:12 PM [faithdinar] poppy3 Oh. OK. I understand now. It was Wang Dang (who is very factual like here). Not a pumper at all. Very articles based. Very in sync with you on the Dinar. But did research on the VND with first hand Vietnam sources to conclude that it (VND) is years away.
10:12 PM [DinarGroupie] I agree with stardusty and milndollarbabe.
10:12 PM [newshound] BGG What is your High numbers iyour opinion
10:12 PM [BGG] and where you gonna' to go to get a 10-20 percent return on your money and not pay taxes immediately??
10:12 PM [BGG] nowhere.
10:12 PM [nawlins] if it comes in at $1 we will have increased our investment by 100,000%. Not bad.
10:12 PM [CoolSpot] The call was great, sound was excellent and clear. I appreciate hearing what was shared. This is not man's making, this investments has spiritual dynamics, and we must look to the Lord for discernemnt, because this is not like any natural investment, it has much greater spiritual implications, and many will be suprised when it manifest. But again, I am grateful for what was shares, but also felt the prodding of the Spirit to trust the Lord.
10:12 PM [poppy3] guys you know i have the utmost respect for kaperoni and many other great researchers .But I also have my faith in what I have studied and this is just one of those points that we will just have to agree to disagree. I am not upset with anyone and am glad they have gotten this discussion going because it will make everyone think positive about their investment. poppy3
10:13 PM [BGG] stardusty - I don't have any trouble speaking my mind. But you might be in the wrong house if you're looking for a "glory hound". I intentionally give others their due.
10:13 PM [DinarGroupie] I just wanted BGG to know that at least one of us (me) likes it better when the call is BGG and Poppy, but not Kap. JMO
10:13 PM [Sam] poppy3 glad to see you are feeling better
10:14 PM [Sam] or at least enough to join us for a bit
10:14 PM [BGG] And if all I was after is "top billing" that's easy - I write all the titles anyway.
10:14 PM [nawlins] BGG
10:14 PM [milndollarbabe] i think the main function for tonights call was to say be prepared...until it happens , we could all be shocked
10:15 PM [poppy3] faithdinar if that is correct then why are the two regional bank presidents in vn and two international traders in ny saying they can't believe vn has not rv'ed yet and why did vn go and get permission from the imf to rv on their own and not wait for iraq???? ask him to answer that... poppy3
10:15 PM [BGG] milndollarbabe - my point exactly.
10:15 PM [BGG] in the spirit of open and honest pursuit and debate...which is something we try hard to achieve here...
10:16 PM [faithdinar] poppy3 Thanks Poppy3. I also hold VND so am with you in hoping that is the case.
10:16 PM [DinarGroupie] Poppy, I heard Wangdang, and he actually says that the IMF has placed sanctions against VN so that they can't RV yet, because the IMF didn't like how long they waited, or something. As far as I know, the IMF doesn't place sanctions, the UN does, so that's another mark against his statement, I think.
10:17 PM [Sam] DinarGroupie he is basing his statement on the fact they were told to de dollarize and didnt
10:17 PM [BGG] faithdinar poppy3 - good point. I need to get some ordered in the morning
10:18 PM [Sam] but who knows...i have some too and was hoping it would go so i would have some pocket cash while waiting on iraq
10:18 PM [stardusty] BGG I agree; I want YOUR house and maybe you should read Dinar Groupie's post, we are giving YOU top billing, we want to hear YOU, not someone
10:18 PM [mckissm] Well, as for me, .50 would help me now so I could wait. My biggest concern the power Maliki evidently has. No one...no one has derailed him yet. I am beginning to wonder if anyone can. We have seen no change in his power in months of talk of doing that.
10:18 PM [Honugirl] DinarGroupie I wouldn't put any faith in what WangDong has to offer....just my 2 dinars worth!
10:19 PM [stardusty] else's site
10:19 PM [BGG] stardusty - all right, all right.
10:19 PM [Sam] Honugirl why do you feel that way if you dont mind sharing
10:19 PM [BGG] I've got some good stuff lined up.
10:20 PM [BGG] and some more cool stuff in the works too.
10:20 PM [DinarGroupie] Honugirl, I appreciate that. I can't help thinking that even though Wangdang sounds pretty silly with his 86 cents theory, it wasn't too much different than what Kap was saying tonight, except that WD thinks the full RV comes a week later, whereas Kap measures more in light years, I think!
10:20 PM [Sam] Honugirl or pm me with your answer
10:21 PM [DinarGroupie] On a very positive note I got my nice surprise from Dinar Corp on Saturday. Did anyone else get theirs yet? Very cool!
10:21 PM [poppy3] mckissm there you go again talking against my investment and wanting to accept less than anything just to settle shme on you. poppy3
10:22 PM [BGG] A good friend (great friend) called me the other day all upset about his plight. I just wore him out for about 25 mintues. He was wishing he had it on tape. He was wanting me to give his pal the same pep talk tonite...I was like - I don't even remeber what I said. But I do recall being clear, conscise and directly to the point. Could be time for a plain ole' pep talk.
10:22 PM [Honugirl] Sam DinarGroupie No problem....I heard them all in the past and he is right up there with some other pumping gurus that take information from other sites and report it as their own. There are too many holes in what he reported in the past. Haven't listened to him in a long time. Since I found Dinar Updates I don't go to any of the other sites.....don't have to. I have everything I need right here.
10:22 PM [Taffy] I am grateful for all who spoke on the call this evening. Each point of view is something to think about for each of our individual situations.
10:22 PM [DinarGroupie] mckissm if you notice, BGG has been pointing out how more and more of the props are being pulled out from under Maliki. The lastest is this thing with the judiciary. Soon Maliki will have no where to go.
10:23 PM [mckissm] poppy3 Sorry poppy3 I really believe in a 3 dollar plus rate....I just am having a hard time seeing that anything is being done with Maliki.
10:23 PM [BGG] DinarGroupie - exactly right, sooner or later he has to "play ball" - nowhere left to hide.
10:23 PM [poppy3] well i am feeling some better but my queen is still dealing with the naseau .. I am going take care of her some more tomorrow rich friends poppy3
10:24 PM [DinarGroupie] Poppy3 I hope she feels better soon. Glad you are already.
10:24 PM [BGG] poppy3 - niters Poppy - praying for the both of you.
10:24 PM [poppy3] mckissm ok friend but no more talk of settlening for less than what GOD has set asside for us OK poppy3
10:24 PM [Honugirl] poppy3 Good night
10:25 PM [satrib] BGG after listening to your cautioning about the banks and cashing in....it may actually be beneficial if this does come in at a little lower rate in the beginning...using that initial cash in of a small amount would then prepare us for what to expect when we do cash all in
10:25 PM [milndollarbabe] imo it cant come out lower that $1 or they wont dedollarize....the feasability study mentions the 1.17 for contract rates and mentions the 3.2ish rate as the "real exchange rate"...also says these rates are good for 3 years untill they are reassessed...this was originally done in 2007....lots has happened since them with discovered more oil...more natural gas and more debt being relieved...so maybe they had a range and depended on where they were decided if it was on the high side or the low side....it is my undertanding from years ago that the imf gave them a range based on their completion of stipulations and results of the imf program
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