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Dan: Here we go again is exactly how I feel this morning. Tony and I talked for about 2 hours. All good news – lots of good information.
We’ve been discussing some things that took pace today. Like every morning we wake up and hear a lot of news – not news cause not fact till it is done. I wasn’t tryng to downplay the Erbil agreement an the Gazette yesterday… many times hear this is done but not there really yet.
I am not responsible for anyone, we tell you not to go out and get reserves etc. that you can’t afford… still feel responsible for you to hear that from us. We are not actors… not faking… we are good friends and believe that the rv will happen.
When do we say that this is it. Today we’ll hear from the news that Ch. & is being released even though we heard that a number of times already…. Kind of like the gazette publishing the Erbil agreement…. Thought that was down a long time ago.
The Kurds have had a lot of effect on pushing Maliki and those behind the stall…. Having some thing sin the news that we are hearing with the ISX and the Bank of Baghdad stock tomorrow…
I believe that we are closer cause of what we are reading… I f I believed that everything was going to take place tomorrow… I would go and sell a $60,000 car for $3,000 and go buy 3 million dinar today. If the news was always factual I would say sell your car for what ever you could today because it was supposedly happening tomorrow.
We have to be here to repeat the news and to repeat the intel and opinions. The news is not always factual and the truth isn’t always the truth till it is over… I am really excited about this opportunity. Reporting on everything keeps us grounded so we don’t do something stupid.
Tony: I know some of you receive a text a few minutes ago saying the rv would be this afternoon….. don’t know where that text came from cause we didn’t send it out.. I didn’t get it either but got some phone calls about it.
I think a lot of good things happened yesterday. This morning is very quiet on every end… I like that… when it is all over and done with and we have gone through every stage we could, information, misinformation etc… If I look at the news that is out there, not the information we are receiving cause that is all good, nobody saying it is not happening and no one today saying a time it will be done….
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The information we do have. .. I would look at the Bank of Baghdad saying changing their rate… the news today said changing the rate to 3.58 dinars…. How can the Bank of Baghdad…. I do this with ips etc… how does the major bank over there come out at less than a penny. It has already been on the stock exchange before… it is going to come out on the same day the isx is to go international? If they did they could buy the Bank for $10,0000…. If it is 3.58 and there is an rv or rate change and the shares are $12-15 makes sense to me, if that is what happened.
That is based on the isx going international tomorrow. The Bank thing is kind of new. Could go either way. If I really had faith in it would go buy a lot of dinar but I already have a lot.
They are trying to work things through. I hope today is our day.
Dan: Just so you know, individually I will always be louder than Tony. You may need to turn your speakers up.
We joked today and said, how can we come on here everyday and say it will happen tomorrow when we know it could be the day after that or the day after that etc… Tony gives us the rumors or the news and my job is hard sometimes…. I know this will happen… they aren’t going to make it worth more to stay less…. GE etc and companies won’t get involved for no reason.
Countries like Jamaica etc are not invited to events in Jackson Hole cause they are not economic stabilizers… neither should a country that has a currency worth less than 1 penny.
We are trying to give you what we believe. I know this will happen. Don’t give up what you have. Stiffen up your back and say glad you listened cause when this is over…. I always want to talk about Highrise’s experience with the KWD – he gave up right before and y6 months later he would have been a multi-millionaire. This is about to happen but we don’t know when. Because we have put ourselves in this position we have attracted more intel that what we really wanted and have to sift through it all to get at what is happening. Some of you will retire much earlier than what you planned to… as a team we have kept everyone in a place that makes sense.
Tony: Highrise yes…. That was the whole purpose of this, to have a better chance to put the pieces of the puzzle together more so than the average guy… We go through stages…. Look at the news… don’t listen to it… etc…. has gone through stages…. We had to look for things that we wanted to cross off our list and that is through the list…a change or a meeting that never took place… we know that Maliki owns 80% of the news over there so we have to search through the 20%...
I am excited. I like the fact that the Bank of Baghdad put that out there…. Will be a sound investment for someone. Like they are telling everyone they are getting ready to go international at the same toime with the ISX.. Saying system is updated and they are ready for this…. Remember the old pictures where they had computers a nd a white board… now saying they are ready to go.
Like that this weekend they posted the #’s for the 2012 budget… remember how long we waited for the 2011 budget… didn’t get it till first part of March…. This time they came out with the 2012 budget and already gave us the numbers… and a 36% increase from the 2011 budget… do the math on the rate… we can figure that out..
That doesn’t make their budget start on the first of October… last year it was supposed to be the 7th or 10th of November… really doesn’t matter… they do what they want to do anyways. I look at what is going on right now, what we hear from our people, banking people, forex people etc… what they are seeing… then I look at the news… re the ISX going international – if they sat on course something has to change or we will buy up that country faster that Japan is buying up America.
I do believe this will be happening before Oct.1st cause too many things happening here.
Dan: You are supposed to be before Friday and I am supposed to believe before Oct. !
Tony: Just trying to look at the big picture…. They printed that today and unless we see something that disputes that I am going with that.
Dan: Somebody has to believe what the bankers have to say… I am the same way about lawyers… banks have to foreclose on houses and jack up interest rates… lawyers have to defend guilty people… don’t get offended if you are a banker or a lawyer… Banks have been telling us things on many levels…. You guys know how much we gave them the govt gave them that they took our houses with etc…
Last night had a call with a man who said his banker called him in… bottom line was how much the bank actually believed this… Didn’t we hear that WF had lifted their policy about it being a scam…was good news.. the fact that the banks are changing their stance – we knew that… there is no way that this would stay at 1/0th of a penny… the banks are playing that safe role.
Tony: Not going to say how we found out… we found out that EWF is telling their people that they are going to be involved in the dinar… they told them that Monday morning.
Dan: We are on an hourly watch guys…. I am getting some texts that people didn’t get their text yesterday… Texas Guy did you send out a text about it rving this afternoon?
Texas Guy: Absolutely not! There are some sub groups that sent things out even a few weeks ago that regurgitated one of our texts… that text definitely did not come from the PTR texting system… I asked Already Blessed to get a short code that it came from… definitely not from us.
Dan: I would like to know that – I would like to bring that liar to life.
Texas Guy: Got a regurgitated text from what we said yesterday and changed it…
Dan: Would like to get that code and find out who sent it and give you guys the phone number. That wasn’t nice to fool you – I didn’t get that fooled cause I knew we didn’t send it.
Texas Guy: What goes through my mind is if there is a possibility of hacking that could happen. Our providers said there is no room for someone to hack in and send out messages for us.
Dan: I would love to get 5-7000 of us give the scumbag a call every half hour or so.
I got a bunch of texts yesterday that Tony forgot the contest yesterday….
Dan: We love giving away Tony’s $.... Just got in the moment and forgot about it.
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Dan: Viper can you say hello and do you want to add anything?
Viper: We’re right there… like Tony and you think this is good… more than likely they are getting ready to do some things that will make us all very happy. The quiet part doesn’t bother me at all.
Dan: Do you want to cover a couple of things from that email that Viper sent?
Gary have you heard anything? Kind of hard to talk about things without rehashing something… Don’t actually think it is that quiet…
Gary: Each day we have gotten further confirmations… just waiting to see it in writing… had a call last night that said the HCL was completed and would be published and that the political situation was coming to a head over there and would be published… don’t know how long it takes to be published….. the process of releasing this has not been aborted…. Was just on hold… everyone just waiting for the light to change and everyone to be able to cash in… that meeting in the UN to take the final pieces of Ch. 7 away…. Caught us off guard cause we thought that was all done.
Dan: Some people don’t realize the importance of the HCL and the importance of the Kurds and that play… they are the reason that a lot of things are taking place. You could research the history of the area, Barzani etc. There are some serious things happening there that have taken place this week. If you read the news and take what is being said… not so much the HCL done a certain way… or that the Erbil has been in the Gazette but it doesn’t stipulate the power agreement…
Tony: I want to go through the email that Viper sent us. We have someone over there in a very delicate position. Said he is in Baghdad in green zone and hasn’t seen the ld’s yet. No indicators of M being out of office… conducting business as usual… there are some things we are seeing, a 3 letter guy… they assign people to every country every president… if something was going on there they would know about it.. yesterday and day before not quiet at all… I was being bombarded with information.. today it is quiet and I like it.
Dan: As we go forward I believe the site will get better weekly.
? Tony –have you said on a number of times that the rate was going in the system and then it didn’t occur?
? If they gave M a deadline of Tuesday how could rates go into the system?
Tony: Either we believe they have attempted to do this 6 times… and I have been told that by several agencies and people with Forex, banks etc… either we believe that or we believe they never have attempted that and it is all bs. I have discussed this a number of times on other calls. How many times can you threaten M? The no-confidence vote was supposed to be on Tuesday and yet he is still there… doesn’t make sense to me. That to me was the misinformation that people wanted to say was information from higher ups…. My conclusion was it was bs. That there have been attempts made to put it in the system. Some things I can’t talk about.
I know who the minister of defense is… that the Erbil agreement is done.. once those things would be posted they had nothing to fall back on – they can’t release those things till all is done.
? An issue having trouble wrapping my brain around – the Highrise story…. That the lowest value of the kwd before they had an rv was .10 was that correct? That would mean that 50k kwd would have cost $5000…
? So when it revalued even at $6-7 that 50k kwd would only have been worth.. $300k. Only reason I am asking this question is cause we are using the KWD example to explain the iqd rv… would they really treat that lightly enough to let their kids play with?
Dan: I am not even looking at that. History ahs shown us about rv’s..
Tony: I thought he was going to ask how we are getting the value of the iqd than the kwd but when he said the part of letting the kids play with it and give it away a different question…
Dan: What if he wasn’t going to be a multi-millionaire from it and only spend $2-4k and what if that money went 100x – who amongst us wouldn’t thing that $100k doesn’t sound good today? The story is that this would have changed his position in life. He wouldn’t have been early as wealthy as what some of you will be with only $300 invested. He said don’t do what I did cause this will be even bigger.
Ton: Don’t want you to be discouraged… It is going to happen even if things change day to day. The only way to win is to stay in the game. Eventually you will win. Just put it down and go do something else till you get a phone call that says you are rich if it is really getting to you. Hopefully this is over but if not change your focus but don’t get rid of your dinar.
Dan: I get frustrated when we see the same things in the news over and over… Tony doesn’t– he says – well this time it might be true! He does get frustrated hearing the same things over and over, but still has to believe his contacts.
Tony: Remember that this is designed to confuse. It is not to confuse us – we are a by product. Not aimed at us, just a by product of it. There is a reason for the confusion. There is a reason for the drop dead dates that aren’t real dates. Has nothing to do with you we are just living though it. Everyone wants every event to be about the rv and it’s not. There are certain aspects that are… even here… we have been made aware of people bringing in counterfeit dinar into the country etc… there is a reason for what is going on. It is about to come to a conclusion – this is not directed at you. Sounds like this is an emotional day for quite a few people…
? Contests for dinar?
Dan: Only doing it through email now to make it more fair.
? Re news owned by M – how do we know what to listen to?
Tony: Trying to put the puzzle pieces together – ask myself does this make sense based on what we are hearing from an agency or from Baghdad etc… they will put a lot of stuff out there but only those involved in it can try to decipher what is the truth.
Dan: I have no idea. How do we know what the good 20% is? We are trying to play these different agencies and people we have been able to speak with… 3 people on our calls last night that were surprised to be on that call with each other..
They tell us why they believe stuff and then we repeat it or not. Part of it is fun to try to figure it out but that is a small part.
? Did you see what was posted about the IMF warning? … the PTR site post saying IMF warning about Iraq and world currency
Tony: Nothing new. What we have been talking about for 5-6 months. IMF warns about??
Caller: IMF warned that time is running out to sort out global financial system.
Dan: Yes that’s accurate… everyday we do this…. Ray Ren called and when Gary you were calling to find out why this was not transmitting you gave everyone your phone number…
Tony: Dan was trying to say Gary was laughing and us discussing this earlier.
Dan: Earlier sounded like we were arguing… Tony was trying to get me to hear him… and was yelling to get me to hear… I was glad we weren’t transmitting then. We get frustrated just like you guys… bit I have never ever said I wish I wasn’t in this….. nothing out there that will pay me the $$ that this will. Not the stock exchange, foreign exchange… the hybrid dinar…. Etc.
? You know the 2 pages where the process was written out… an article or paper from the govt… my ? is that with that step by step are we where we are supposed to be?
Dan: Oh man – with the step by step thing we should have been there by now.
Tony: You better wait for however long it takes… You don’t ever sell your dinar.
Dan: For those 2 people I said I would call last time I actually did call.
? A question on the priori dinar winnings cause I am still waiting.
Dan: Everyone has gone out. If you go to the back office… click on those girls there especially Monday Wednesday Friday and tell them that you didn’t get it and could they check it. We had 2 people do that and we tracked their package and it was lost. If you have not gotten that package you should do that. I will call you myself.
I am glad you brought that up. If anyone has not gotten their dinar winnings… we need to know that. The girls probably sent it and we thought it was done,,, may be lost and there may be others in the same position. Let’s be mad at the mail…
It starts making someone look bad and we end up looking bad for trying to do the right thing. We have given away over 20 million iqd and it is frustrating that we only hear from those who didn’t get it… when you only see the people who didn’t, what would you think? I will call you cause this is important.
Caller: It happens and just a matter of getting it worked out. Thanks so much I know it will happen.
Dan: No other board with a chat support line that is paid for… there are other sites that aren’t doing calls like this, with a chat support part of the board.. etc…
? I got in trouble for the corn hole game last time but that’s ok. Just wondering if you guys,.,… around the world meetings going on in China, at the UN, in the EU etc… do you find it unusual that these things are happening at the same time we are waiting for the conclusion of the rv?
Dan: I think it is perfect timing. They have taken too long on this. I am not an avid news reader like some of you are… I watch global news a lot. My wife saved my a piece the other day about China… when the US bailed out Europe years ago…. He who controls the debt wins. For a long time the US did…. People don’t know how powerful a position that puts them in. china is actually in the position that they can do that… if they are allowed to step in in Europe, Germany etc… If China is given that role with the power they already yield (I know that Tony meant China not Japan)… they have been buying up our debt for years and OMG if they go to Europe and do that…
? Heard that Japan was going to move a lot of their money to Vietnam and China as well….
Tony: First of all 2 things that we have noticed that most have not – we can’t go to war with China – a billion of them and too far for anything but a nuclear war. China has taken over our debt. Japan is actually buying our real estate here. Those are just other things that are happening that we aren’t looking at. They are buying monuments, municipalities over here etc… China I trying to boost the dong up and after the RV …. China has a lot of dong… know we see Made in China but it is Made in Vietnam…
Caller – I watched that China has openly said they want to work with the US and with their currencies etc. cause they know they can’t make it without us… they need us to get their GDP up and moving again. Don’t understand why they are letting China buy all of our debt but see that they need to keep us around.
Tony: It is a misnomer about exactly how much debt China does have.
Dan: You opened up 5 cans of worms… This is one of the things that when I first got involved in this investment I wasn’t as educated in this arena…. Re China sending manufacturing to Vietnam would take years for them to raise the value of the dong to match that… that doesn’t change the dong value…. The manufacturing going to China was by design by our own government… we basically promised that we would give them all the work if they would take the debt. That is the role everybody took.
This has all been down by design… but it did get out of hand. They literally paid businesses to leave the US to go overseas and do the work. When you talk about war with China and those things… Hawaii is to China as Main is to China… the US is all over the place. Think a lot of countries understand that the strength of the US is not that it is the biggest debtor…. It is the reach. This world news from China, Japan, etc… that is the tell tale story about the need for the rv of the iqd.
Tony: Because of the earthquakes etc….
Sorry – lost the call here….
Dan: Our board is about currency not crop circles and aliens and vampires. Pay attention to these 2 threads – what we could do about these radio shows… music, kind of guests etc…. what would you like us to do outside of the global news etc..
Have a good day!