Playback number 760-569-7699 956132#
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Dan: Last minute call. Wasn’t able to get on today’s call. Wanted to clear that up. I have heard information before and after the call.
Mods on hear can chime in if they can. PTR is developed around a lot of different personalities. You know the group. All of our opinions sometimes differ from a little to a lot. Just our opinion. Dealing with a currency that has been upside down for some time. As you know Tony and I differ all the time and we are good friends.
If I was to do the first call – people might have come back and said look what Tony’s doing after what Dan said was going on. I don’t like saying on a weekly basis that it is happening. Get sensitive when people say ptr is calling it.
Last week one of those times that I got really excited that Sunday could easily have been the day for the rv. Thought I would be more anxious to see what happens. Got a call that said don’t know why it went quiet. The good thing is that govt not saying a sham… don’t see a war starting… see nothing negative – what we don’t see is anything moving forward. Drives some of us crazy. That’s because this is an emotional investment.
Heard a mixed basket of all kinds of stuff today. This morning, you know we don’t normally do Tuesday calls. Tony called and said he had all kinds of information. I told him I was hearing the opposite. Heard that the KWD did not revalue. I called up Frank at DB. Asked him to verify that the KWD had revalued.
For the KWD to happen before the iqd doesn’t make sense to me… it is possible.
Frank said that they spoke with a Kuwaiti citizen that the KWD did not rv. A currency investor over there. I called the banks myself when I heard the banking stories. I met with some substantial banking people today and they said you could buy the kwd for 4.08 and you could sell it back for $3.35. They said always been about .35 +/-. Hard to make money at the bank. Being that it is rated at $3.65 a healthy spread at the bank.
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Tony heard his information straight from the bank. Both of us being honest. Both different information.
I just got a call that it happened in China….over $7.00 and some people saying tied to gbp… I don‘t think so for either. We are saying here’s what we believe and you make your decisions.
I wouldn’t get too excited about some of the things you are hearing and here is why.
Right now more than ever you are going to hear more lies and more unbelieveable things about the iqd than ever. Misinformation will be thick more than ever. That’s why we put this board together. That’s it… not here to predict the future. I don’t think we should call it daily. I do really well knowing almost there.
I called the guys we spoke with last week and told them I was frustrated. For a long time they were conservative… then they were excited last week thinking it would be Sunday. I brought that to the call on Friday. I still believe that we can be excited. I don’t think the KWD rv wil be before the iqd.
I have heard nothing but good things today. The guys trying to get ahold of… people telling me this is better than we really thought we are really close right now. Not there, not over, but really close about last weekend. Today they say they are confused about where we are at. They still feel really close, don’t think that it will go beyond this month.
We are a team of differing ideas. Makes us the team we are. As long as you stay positive we have done our job. We don’t make $ when you buy, sell or afterwards.
Gary – one of the things we spoke about earlier is that there is a lot of indescision all around …
Gary: I agree with you. We were warned that the closer we got the crazier the informaiton we would get. When we don’t hear something a lot gets made up or blown out of proportion. We are trying to verify everything we hear. We are trying to look for a reality of what everybody is seeing. As we are calling we are getting conflicting reports. As we move forward people we are talking to say the silence means we are getting really close.
Have to remind everyone that 2 days before the Kuwait Rv the royal family came out and said they were not going to do an rv – 2 days later it happened. In this situation we are hearing a lot of positive things… from the agencies, the banks, but the cinsistent confirmation of that is what we are trying to prove.
Dan: The pairing to gbp is just an opnion. Curious to see if correct. Just saying not seeing it….
Gary: I have tried to confirm it too. Have called the people that I deal with but haven’t been able to confirm it either.
Tony: A lot of things on the board. I got some calls about some things being posted on the board and on pther boards and it was about another Tony posting that information. Gary I did call you and ask you to check with your Forex guys to see how this really works. Maybe isn’t the way we are used to… maybe a different scnereio… maybe banks did get a rate and it is on the back screens. Did get a call saying on Chines Fores and said I want a link to see it.
I did get a call. That it was supposed to start on the Hong Kong board around 8:30 pm and then when it gets to the US board it would be activated. Not that it would be live… that as each market opens the rate would be placed in their system and once back at the US would become live simultaneously in every system sometime in the am. We will know if it was true in the morning.
Was supposed to happen earlier today. It didn’t get started until 8:30… only a few markets. Said each market would be placed in and hopefully tomorrow we would see it. Haven’t been able to verify it cause we don’t have enough people in each market. May not be there for me to see that way. May go through so everyone has the index, the ping and when the US gets it supposed to get the final rate. It is saying $7.37 - $4.41 to gbp. I am hearing may not be the final rate. That won’t lock until goes all the way through. That’s what I am hearing.
Dan: That’s what everyone has asked you to do Tony. We don’t have the information we used to – we get less things to talk about, less rumors. I have to go back to what I have believed my whole life. It may not happen the way I am used to. If it has happened in history I am more likely to believe it. Tony is saying he believes anything is possible. We both have different avenues that we bring.
Golfer Dan – you were reading me some things people where saying..
Golfer Dan – Some comments – fool me once shame on you… fool me 28 times…. Shame on me… thinks we made an idiot out of him.
We are just trying to present all sides of the story.
Dan: My first response was to think – send me your dinar and I will buy it from you. That wasn’t the right thing to do though. It confuses me – did he not think this would be this way? We will always be here for another weekend until it is over. Will never change till it is done. Never going to be that excited that it is today or tomorrow and other people were… nobody is fooling you here. If you think this isn’t a valuable investment you should get out.
I think we are still on track to have this done.
I want people to know we feel the same way this guy does… just needs to change the verbiage… we don’t benefit from him one way or the other.
I think this is a good day. A good week. The day they say something has changed then we need to change our opinion. Don’t need to get all jacked up on a roller coaster ride. This has been interesting all the way.
Traveling Soldier – Do we know if Alawi spoke on Sunday and what happened?
Dan : I heard there was supposed to be a meeting and a celebration right before the Erbil agreement but I don’t think that took place because we would have heard it.
Tony: I haven’t seen it. Heard it was scheduled for Sunday … maybe not going to come out till the whole thing comes out.
Dan: A good ? – we got this from pretty high up sources so I am surprised we didn’t see anything.
Double Bull – I missed a good portion of this call cause one of our members who is a politician sent me a link to the Gazette where this stuff is published. A govt. site where you can go in and listen to them in session… we have sites like that hear. I was looking for that for a long time.
Tony: We do have a link to see their council meetings etc.
Double Bull – we can see the outcomes of each meeting…
Tony: Dan – I am getting texts asking you to speak up….
Dan: Really! I am talking as loud as always – someone has me turned down.
Q and A – Ask 1 ? each… 956132 is pin.
? Thank you Dan for the information about the KWD. That clarified things for me regarding the buy and sell rate. And wanted to give a shout out to Joe Rawlings Jr. for his birthday today. Also about the guy who vented his frustration…
Dan: Sometimes you have to cut people some slack when they vent. Have to understand a bit that the venting is due process. I don’t get upset as long as it is done with respect. We can be wrong and will be at different times throughout this ride…
? You’ve mentioned about the illuminati and the elite. Can you comment on how the iqd will help finance WW3?
Dan: I don’t think that is the purpose of it. Will keep my hat out of the ring. We are looking for the iqd to rv…
? Dan can you be more specific about… know you said in the month… said contacts excited about last Sunday are they still thinking this week?
Dan: When I spoke to them – spoke to them Thursday before our Sunday thought… Spoke with them on Monday – was very brief and to the point they said it was supposed to have happened…. Asked about that meeting with Alawi and they didn’t know what happened. Heard a rumor that Maliki got into a tizzy and had an argument and it was called off…. I can’t confirm that.
They are saying they aren’t hearing anything negative. They are on a daily watch of what the heck just happened – should have been done. Other 2 I haven’t reached. Should get them mid week. Like Gary said – it is really quiet except for all of these guesses that are happening because it is quiet.
? I wish the people would quit putting all the heat on the mods… ?ing everything… people speculating and bringing things in from other boards…
Dan: remember this – when Tony and I come on hear and say what I am hearing – I am not going to come back on a call unless something changes. Just cause another board has a different opinion doesn’t mean we’ll come back to a call. Especially on the weekends. The only thing in my work life that has kept me sane for years is having the weekends to get a little bit of a rejuvenation. Talk with the guys if some things is going on. That is respect for you guys’ time too.
Tony: This is the whole thing. The information I am bringing you is just that. Information. Somebody somewhere is being told that. These are people in banking positions,. Parliament, govt etc that are getting this information… we are not going to all the other boards or getting a group of people on the call to say what is the best and let’s do that. This is information coming out of an agency or some dept. and there is a reason for it. When someone not saying anything at all it is a good thing. There is still something going on even if 3,4,5 days – something is going on. All we are doing is bringing it to you. This is not going to buy a lottery ticket. This is a life changing experience that is complex, complicated and not going to be laid out for you on a gold street that you can cherry pick… things change from one meeting to the next. Look at our system itself. How many times have we changed something when we ran into something that we didn’t plan on. That’s life. You need to get used to it and understand it. What are you going to do if you get this money and get involved in something and things change? Not a lot of people getting together to say what’s your best guess?
Dan: Most of our members, especially those who are left are pretty sharp people. So preaching to the choir. Those who don’t get that are often the most vocal. May be relatively new and inexperienced. In the beginning I was adamantly against having a board that would charge anything. After another year I had to change that. Servers, ideas, concepts. As we learn we have become a little smarter with what we are doing.
I really appreciate where I am today versus where I was a year ago. I am a car nut. I probably would have done something really stupid with what I was thinking… Now that I have gotten a little older I have become a little more settled. I just want to pay my taxes and be protected. That’s why we hang on. I have learned a lot over this time…From my wife, my kids you guys…. I am so glad about some things I didn’t do. I feel a lot better for it. Hanging on is the name of the game.
Tony: I just got a call from somebody. If anyone knows anybody… verify it… said a house that cost $1000 last week now costs $50,000 as of today.
? If you have reserves and I don’t want to cash in all at that time and go to pick it up can I do that or will they have to wire it?
Tony: You can cash out part of it and take the rest home – however you choose to do it. Don’t have to wire it.
Dan: Might depend on where you do your cashing in. Let’s say Atlanta…. We have heard that you could get $10k cash, a wire note with confirmation of and/or iqd. You can take as little or as much as you want.
We really have to button our lips as to what we are going to pick up and what we have. Once it comes into my possession it is going into my bank’s trusts. Make sure you are protected and it is secure before you talk about anything. You are carrying Brink’s trucks plural. Kind of scary to me. A wire, a cashier’s check…. Etc maybe better than physical dinar…
Dan: On that last call, James, we couldn’t hear you. I tired to call you but it was busy.
? You all have some good stuff. I was getting off on Tony’s song from today. Today they played the song that Tonight’s Going to be a Good Night… your radio sounds excellent on the bull. I can’t understand why people get so upset. I went out today and bought a bottle of champagne regardless if it comes today or next week. If you don’t put a worm on the hook … we will be so anxious you’ll have a heart attack and the $$ won’t do you any god. Tony, Dan the mods, some of the best you will meet in a lifetime. Mods are like a group of angels. Tony, Dan and their mods. If not for them we’d be lost like a ship upside down in the water. Let’s not be upside down like that. Stand straight up and be patient. Don’t give yourself a heart attack. If you don’t drink get a bottle of crystal spring water.
Tony: Thank you James. Our mods have been called a lot of things but angels probably not one of them. I do appreciate them.
Dan: Thanks to Golfer Dan, Tony for popping on… we’ll be back here tomorrow morning at 10 California time.
Golfer Dan has been doing the music.
Thanks so much everybody. Have a good night.