(Thank you JJ for emailing this to us)
Dan: Don’t know if we will ever know the date of the rv ahead of time. We’ve been looking for a lot of things…. Some calls last night…
We did start a new format. About 20 minutes after the hour we’ll post a number for the q and a and do a 30 minute q and a at the bottom of the hour.
Tony – know you had some opinions on Monday.
Tony: I am never going to be accountable. All I am doing is passing on the information I get. I am not the one making the decisions. We are getting the information from places 100% better than where you would get it from. Out of Washington… agencies…. Wheat we tried to do Monday am is walk you through the process we go through and let you see it first hand. You saw first hand on CNN with the debt deal… yes a deal… not a deal… vote on Thursday… then Friday… dragged through Monday. Told you that’s what we go through every day. And been doing that for a year.
On Monday everyone was excited. The govt. officials etc. Said as soon as debt deal done we’d see the rv.
Monday at noon pst I got a call that said deal was done. That the debt deal vote had already taken place… we waited the 3-4 hours and played out just as we were told. That was made for television. I had that information hours and hours before you did and we watched it on tv later. Their information was correct. We know when the vote was taken… All that was drama for you not what really happened.
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Every time we get the information doesn’t come out that way. On Monday got calls from congressmen agencies etc… all excited. I went through the same thing again last night and this am. Everyone agreed and signed. Don’t know why it hasn’t happened. We don’t know why we haven’t seen it yet. Every minute it is expected. Just got off phone with 3 people today who said we’d see it today. No one can see why not done yet. If I was the one making the decisions we would have been paid 11 months ago today.
Dan: I have said that before myself about when are these people going to be accountable. Today is August. A wakeup call. Something happened yesterday that is pertinent. Last year in August we heard about the lower denoms going in to ATMs. August 17th last year I would have bet the farm that it was over. Back then we thought it was the lower denoms… then the goi being seated… then the wto and that it had to happen at end of Dec…. the drama built up around the wto and goi…. Then in January we found out they were still on the terrorist list…I lost a bunch of $$ on reserves then. If we had just known that one piece we wouldn’t have spent the money… I was encouraged and realized there is a bunch of things behind the scenes we don’t know.
Then the embargos, the sanctions…. Remember the ships waiting in the harbor some time ago? That Japan had sent over Toyotas and sitting in the harbor?
We talked back then about they wouldn’t have all those cars waiting to be delivered unless the rv was there….. then the big wigs from GE went over there and they announced a big deal… I was stoked. I realized we were at the end of something that was a piece of history. We still are. At every turn, I have learned that these things needed to take place. And it wasn’t because the rv was to happen immediately after… still had to take place. I was frustrated about people telling me that contractors being paid at $4.40 and the 5.25 etc… I am a little suspicious about that still.
Tony: It is a process. I am not as suspicious as Dan cause I know how our govt really works… some of the things they have done… some things that truly go on that we don’t need to know about and some things you wouldn’t believe. On a need to know level and we probably know too much already.
Dan: Re you know the govt and you still believe them?
Tony: Good point – I agree with you. You would not believe – even before Dec. I spent well over $50k in reserves. Reserves.
Dan: Tony does drink his own koolaid. I told him that if he purchased every dollar he put on reserves he would have a lot right now. Tony would say he has a bigger pain tolerance.
Tony: My wife says I am crazy.
Dan: We have both been in financially bad spots. We have done and seen a lot of things. There are members on this board who have exceeded us in knowledge, wealth wisdom….
I said I wanted to talk about the history, things that are taking place. Some things that frustrate me. Don’t share a rumor till you know it came from a good source. Every time we get to a point…. Some ruling or something a day or 2 after there is a new point that comes up. Erbil agreement – I said what is that? That is the control with Allawi etc…. now people think that since Obama signed the paperwork and the debt ceiling put out…. China and Russia making fun of the US…. There may be something else we are waiting on.
We are novice economists… looking at a currency taken down to partial cents on the dollar….only easy to wait if you have $$ in the bank.
Tony: Know you want to tell people this is a great opportunity. The key thing I heard him say is that we went there to save people from Saddam …. When we had Professor P on and he was honest with you and said we went over there and this was the plan. It wasn’t just about saving people or we would be in Libya etc. right now. That was the plan. That should tell you that this is going to happen cause this was the whole reason for the last 10 or 11 years. The plan was the whole reason for it.
Those who haven’t been around the govt…. some things opening people’s eyes about that… information changes hour by hour. We think people should be grounded and understand so they are not up and down every day. I am waiting for the call that says we will see it in this many hours.
Dan: I believe we are really close. Some people saying they can wait till January… another guy says are you kidding me? Other people saying better happen this week cause nothing else to wait on is there? The difference is the economy and those who are waiting on this to pay their bills… We all know what it is like to struggle. Wouldn’t want to be in that position today. Some people get on every list and board out there. There is a burden we carry as owners of these sites… everyone has to have their big boy pants on.
I see nothing but good on this. I was stoked to see gold prices go up. What we said is the rise of the gold and the lower the dollar makes a better RV for us. Gold at $1665 right now – that is huge. It has jumped since our last call. Record amounts. Speaking to the $$ falling. A huge picture. Talk about a chess match. Like playing football. Not just the offensive line…. The game inside the game.
We need to focus on the game inside the game.
We are really close. Like we have been. If a day comes up where we see Iraq go backwards… if a real war starts over there…. But every day that goes by and we hear about the increase of things over there I am in a really good mood.
Tony: A good analogy. A game within the game. Back door meetings. You all watched the debt ceiling cause we knew part of the rv. It was a critical point in them reaching the agreement they did. It was included in the agreement and that’s how they came up with the agreement. Got that hours after the real agreement was reached and 5-6 hours before you guys even heard there was one.
Nothing negative. Nothing saying stopped or on hold. Everyone still looking for this thing any minute.
Dan: Mods are our advisory board here. The first person into q and a mode gets 100,00 iqd. 2nd is 50,000 iqd.
Dan: A mod told me the other day…. We have an issue cause the lady that won the $250k iqd on Friday I still don’t have her information and need to get that today along with the ones Tony is talking about.
Questions and Answers
? thought peculiar that at high noon when senate was supposed to vote and on tv everyone was walking around doing nothing. And then at noon they read the results of the vote… didn’t vote.
Dan: You just won 100,000 iqd as the first caller.
Tony: Very astute observation.
Dan: We do have things we can’t talk about. Some things we do get that give us encouragement. Serious things that happen on the back end that keep us in the mood as well.
? Wendy (mod) – Mods on a call earlier and talking about the super 12 – are they being put there to finalize information on this cash-in… yet heard that congress is on recess for about 6 weeks… should we be concerned that that is another holdup for us?
Tony: Absolutely not. That will not stop anything.
Dan: Don’t think it has anything to do with it at all.
Wendy: If I won any of the dinar was going to put up a post asking where to donate it to.
Dan: You guys as mods do so much you need to keep the $$.
? Being a wealthy person re restoring credit?
Dan: I can go to WF and get a line of credit and say I want to put $100,000 aside and have that pre-approved. That goes into your credit rating. You can do that with as much as you want. You can do the same thing with a black American Express card. Black Amex gets you all kinds of perks. I want some professionals to talk about that in SF. I have relatives etc. that want to fix their credit. We have someone coming into SF to talk about that once you are rich. In the BSP there will be a streaming piece there. Don’t know if it will be live streaming but will be within 24-48 hours in BSP.
You must have over 7 figures in the bank to have a black amex – it starts there.
? Joking around from the mods…. Keep on moving!
Tony: Is each one going to call in?
Dan: I have a question for you…. Can I ask you about the text messaging thing? You sent out a verbal broadcast that went to my cell phone and my home phone.
Harry – Never had anyone else’s home phone. It was put in the land line section to get a voice to that and a text to the cell phone at the same time.
Dan: To me that is more valuable when there is an emergency call re the rv… can that be our alert system only. Would they get delivered better? I would like to know that if an emergency happens I would get a text. The texting service will come from the number you have known for years. Will look like coming from the bridge.
? TY guys for everything you have done and continue to do. ? about the voice mail. Did you have to have it programmed in?
Dan: If you are not in there you get an email and a text as long as your phone number is in there correctly. Vleasing, the texting company takes the $14.95 and we do a sharing with them on the membership situation. Some Verizon and AT&T will block some of the texts coming in with short codes. Unless you ask to have it removed. Like if I send 100 physical pieces of mail out…. The responsibility of the texting company is done cause they have delivered it. It does get sent out.
? Want to shout out to Elise, Ray, Simon and one other one… you guys are behind the curtain… difficult to get ahold of…. You were the very first voice of reason when we got involved back in December. My wife always asks what Dan is saying. ? on the text message. Are you texting about these calls?
Dan: No not at all. Glad you asked. In the beginning when we launched this everyone thought it was about the text messaging. It’s not. In the BSP there is a Calendar area. All the calls are posted there. Should be posted within a 24-hour period of time. Not sending that via text. If everyone knows when calls are and only time a text goes is when rv happens or a special event there will be less headaches. If you don’t get a text message and or email to welcome you - you need to let tech support know and may need to get in touch with your cell phone carrier.
Close to 60 or 70 people who want to advertise something on the site. We aren’t sure what to do with that…. If this goes on for 30, 60 -90 more days… God forbid… know people want to advertise on the site – not sure what we are going to do yet.
?If 180 countries in this basket and the US is the holdup…. And they are going to go ahead with out the US… why can’t we cash out in one of those countries?
Tony: I know in Dubai to do that they require that you are a business owner there and a citizen there who has lived there for 6 months. In last month and a half the 3 letter people have caught so many people bringing $$ into the US cause we will have a higher payout…Remember us, Europe etc…. very few countries can actually do that transfer. When they made the changes in January after monitoring our calls, they put rules in pace, even if you went to another country to cash out still would be taxes at the US rates. Even if you moved still considered a US citizen to pay taxes for 2 years.
Dan: Iraq wants it done yesterday. There has been some comments out there by Maliki himself. They are very frustrated that they are waiting. No one else cashing out right now. We will be the best place to cash in anyways. Never would get your $$ in and out of this country without having a taxable event.
Tony: Remember this too. Re waiting game. Iraq went to the World Court last week. They won. The US filed an appeal and they lost. Then the US govt offered them something to wait. We were holding them up. Iraq didn’t go through all that last week to say hey lets wait another 6 months. We are the architects of the plan and done for the world economy but specifically ours.
? A match between Obama and Bush wanting to take credit?
Dan: No. I don’t think anything frustrates me more than hearing people blame Obama. If he tried to get a bill through on his own…. He can’t. They blame him for everything. How come the most important monetary event is going on and they are saying all on his head. He can’t get anything done on his own anyways, he may be a part of a bigger group who has said they are going to hold it up for whatever reason.
Tony: This is America. Not a dictatorship. Doesn’t work that way.
Dan: the rest of that is – this is where we bribe people to get them to go along with us. Still goes the way of the rich.
We are slowly going though a number of fixes on the site. If a problem going into the BSP you can always listen to the calls on the free side. We are less that 24 hours away from dealing with everything I believe. On the news side you should see the chat login there and you can click on that and talk to live girls or a guy. A secured chat.
Tony: Have a great day. Hopefully today tomorrow or day after is our day. Know it is coming. It will be here. Stay strong.
Dan: Unless something significant happens we won’t do an evening call on Monday, Wednesday or Friday. There may be a recorded call. Please don’t ask us to do a call to confirm things you have heard elsewhere.
I will be doing a q and a tomorrow and will post it on the board.