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RCE Thursday Late PM Chat 9-15-16 Part 1 of 3
Garmst1411:Bruce actually said he expects it this weekend or before?
WILDFIRE:Bruce said lots of things scheduled to occur around midnight
WILDFIRE:Just thought i would read notes
MacMandeere:Bruce: Excited about tonight. Excited about the ride we are on.
Rhayne:Thanks for confirmation, WF and Mac!
Garmst1411:only going to take one time for one of these gurus to be right...lol.
MacMandeere:As long as everyone remembers. I called tomorrow!
Garmst1411:Mac- Well hope you are right! Do you have anything to back your prediction?
MacMandeere:experience.... its always been tomorrow for the last 11 months.
Garmst1411:Yosef was very convincing in his intel, even though none of it has come true. Kind of miss him.
Rhayne:Mac is right!
MacMandeere:THe only two points in time that makes any sense to pull the trigger is Fridays after 11pm est, or Saturdays after midnight.
alohadinar:After reading the notes from Bruce's call my takeaway is nothing has changed. He is as enthusiastic as ever and still almost calling it almost every call!
WILDFIRE:Night rhy , mac
Anonymous:And why would that be macmandeere
MacMandeere:the Sat/Sun is when Forex is fully down. That is the prime time.
WILDFIRE:China mrkt holiday too
Anonymous:That has nothing to do with it Kuwait happened on a Wed, the Yuan happen on a Monday, the Vnd happen on other days
MacMandeere:nope, this is too big
Rhayne:It's after 11 on Friday right now.
Anonymous: Macmandeere, history does not back your assumption or theory
MacMandeere:you are correct
MacMandeere:its not about history,
Garmst1411:this thang could go at anytime, no one knows!!! just speculation.
MacMandeere:very true. its all a semi-educated guess.
Rhayne:I'll just be happy WHEN it goes, regardless of who predicted or called it first!
MacMandeere:I was asked my opinion
Garmst1411:Do any of you guys know a banker that know about what we are waiting for?
Anonymous:Macmaneere, that opinion has been spouted in dinarland for years.
Anonymous:Garms yes, and they are waiting also, but have no idea when it may happen
MacMandeere:if the dinar moves up to .01 I will be happy.
Rhayne:I'd happily sell all my currencies for .01, live long, and prosper.
MacMandeere:yes, but they also said that we will go before forex by 10 days too.
MacMandeere:that cannot happen
MacMandeere:forex will have to be changed first, or be down, when we get the go ahead.
Anonymous:the rate can change at anytime of the day, forex does not have to be down
Garmst1411:Mac, so you dont believe the internet is consider private group and we will go with the public?
MacMandeere:correct Garm, that is what I believe.
Anonymous:garms the internet is not a private group, that is TNT that was spouted
Rhayne:I think maybe we're the informed part of the public and will get to go before the others.
Garmst1411:the internet in itself is a public venue anyway...lol.
MacMandeere:we may be treated differently as a group, but not before.
Anonymous:When it goes internationally it is international for all, not just certain people
Garmst1411:So what about all these so called private exchanges that has taken place already, whales, freinds and family......all false information?
MacMandeere:and the net is two public, like A said.
Anonymous:garms are you serious, you believe that bs, no bank can take in dinar for a asset on its books
MacMandeere:well, that is not really true.
Anonymous:And why would a private person by dinar for a increase value when they can go to a dealer and buy it cheap
MacMandeere:they just cannot have them on the books at the close of business.
Anonymous:I cant believe people fall for all of that
Garmst1411:Anonymous- I do know this, just commenting and asking questions for sake of discussion.
Anonymous:Ok, did not come across like that
Anonymous:macmandeere, then were do they put it at the end of the day, in the closet
MacMandeere:3:45 is coming fast, night all!!!
MacMandeere:transfer it to BOC is all it takes.
MacMandeere:Bank of China
MacMandeere:we have 4 in the US as of 2010 and one in Canada
Anonymous:It has no value international to do that,
MacMandeere:banks are private corporations.
Anonymous:Again, nobody at that level will purchase dinar at a inflated value, when they can get it in the system for the current price
Garmst1411:If transaction was entered in a trust, this will not show up on the public bank ledger. This is where private side banking or off balance sheet ledgering comes into play. imo.
MacMandeere:They can do it, IF they choose to.
MacMandeere:I gotta get some sleep.
Anonymous:It seems people are stretching situations so they can believe others have exchanged already, that is not the case, and I will challenge anybody to provide proof, and don't say they have a NDA because that is bull, because then nobody would of been told
Garmst1411:If scamming,fraud and other crime are being perpetrated on the people with currencies, why hasnt legal authority intervened?
Anonymous:garms because it hasn't as much as people portray, and in some cases it has been
Anonymous:garms so many say put gurus in jail, really when it comes down to it, they are not breaking any laws, and I don't blame the gurus anymore, I blame the desperate people that continue to listen and follow, even the ones that on here, admit they have never been correct or right
Garmst1411:If there is money being made as a result of pumping the currencies for profit and this is not true. I feel alot of people will go to prison. Asking for donation under false preteance is fraud imo.
Rhayne:I agree, Garmst. Add to that using internet to commit fraud... penalties get worse!
Anonymous:When a person is making commissions from pumping dinar, that has been addressed by the law, when they pump their opinions to get a emotional following without taking a commission, that is really not breaking any laws
Anonymous:But again, they would not do that if their was not a group of people that choose to follow regardless of the truth
Rhayne:Anon, you make it sound like we drank KoolAid.
Anonymous:Koolaid spiked with something
alohadinar:I agree with Anonymous. Nobody has exchanged, period. Not one true shred of evidence. Just Gurus saying it happened.
Anonymous:The only people that exchanged or the ones that sold their dinar back to a dealer
Garmst1411:see thats the false information that should have a punishment to it.
Rhayne:But if people have exchanged and signed nda, would anyone know?
Anonymous:The possibilities of that happening are not present in the banking system as stated about Rhayne
Rhayne:So what's your *real* opinion, Anon? Just a bunch of shysters pumping out hopium to the illiterate masses for whatever price clicks can bring?
Anonymous:Rhayne, the acts of people in dinarland to create income for themselves has no bearing on the possibilities of our speculative investment
Anonymous:Does not mean its a scam, does not mean it won/t happen, does not mean it will happen.
Rhayne:The fact that we're all here, speaks volumes!!
Scarlet:The only thing we have to go on is the fact that a lot of effort has been spent on getting Iraq lined up, and they need to go on the Global Market, and they can't do that without a globally acceptable currency. That is all we need to look at.
Anonymous:scarlet, that is correct
Scarlet:all this other talk is just xx
Scarlet:and nothing else matters
Anonymous:One of the many reasons, their is possibilities for this investment, and until they fall in line, it will not be let to happen.
Rhayne:Correct. Yet here we all are.
Scarlet:Iraq can hardly exist without global trade
Anonymous:They have global trade, with USD, but cannot grow unless their is global investments in Iraq and until their currency is global companies will not go in there
Scarlet:This is why all the guru predictions are meaningless....and why its not ''going to happen this week end'' etc.
Scarlet:Anon, right. No company is going to invest in Iraq without them having a world wide accepted currency......
Scarlet:So the only real questions is.........When will Iraq get their XXX together.........
Anonymous:To much money was invested in connecting the stockmarket with the US stockmarket system, no reason to do that, if in the future their was not going to be a tradable currency
Garmst1411:china just completed a large housing project in one of the provinces, I wish I could find that news article. Cost was in the billions.
Scarlet:Anon.......exactly. The ISX was a large effort........why do it to let it just rot.......
Scarlet:Garmst, yes I saw that, it was quite impressive..........very modern
Anonymous:The key will be in Oct, we are not privy to what the AIIB is doing with the IMF, and if that is really the final step we will see. If not, a lot of people again would have been misled by people in high circles
Garmst1411:so china is investing heavily in Iraq, they sent alot of staff there to build that community.
Anonymous:Are people in high circles portray that their somebody important when they are actually just a person givin their opinion or theory
Anonymous:But the way Obo and the US backtracked last year really shows something may be up
Scarlet:Anon, another thing is how long will the IMF just continue to loan Iraq money.........there must be a limit to that.......
Anonymous:There are things in play , we are not privy too, in the finiacial world, they know what they are doing
Scarlet:And Iraq cannot continue indefinitely, just getting deeper and deeper in debt to the IMF....
Scarlet:The longer Iraq keeps on borrowing, the longer it will take them to dig out of debt........that is not a sensible place to be.......
Garmst1411:Iraq has oil and other resources to pay off their debt. Im sure what they have is in the equation for the loan. sounds like collateral loans to me. imo.
Scarlet:Now when those addicted to guruland look at some of these real facts, and think in these lines, they would see thats its stupid to follow that hopium.......
Garmst1411:The usa is 19 trillion + in debt to foreign bankers and we are still protrayed as one of the strongest countries on the planet. And using fiat currency...lol.
Rhayne:Yet here we all are.
Anonymous:There is some much that is not known about the finiacial plans at the IMF level, and political issues of that region that has to be protected and until things and they fall in line it will be held back. regardless of what people say, the IMF, UN, and United States does have major say in when things happen, and most likely it is in the better interest of US interest and region interest that it has to be used as leverage for them to fall in line
Scarlet:Garmst, yes but its just propaganda told by news media. This is what makes us a nation in dire straits...........actually
Anonymous:And until those issues are done, they wont do it so dinarland can become rich
Garmst1411:actually it will stimulate our economy!