Reader's After Thoughts From Koch vs BIS By JC Collins
Pat Fields: August 19, 2014 at 2:04 am Excerpt: “We need to seriously consider that the United States was used by the international banking interests and have had no more control over their own dollar and its machinations”
This is plainly the opposite case as illustrated by Title 18 USC Sec. 8, which lists all forms of bonds and banknotes as ‘security’ issues of the government.
The fact is that banks are mere agencies given ‘privilege’ to borrow the bond ‘security’ and then lend the banknote ‘security’ of government’s incorporated constituencies (knowingly or not).
The entire banknote scheme is debt, start to finish. Money Is Weighed, Fictions Are Counted.
JC Collins: August 19, 2014 at 2:13 am You’re preaching to the choir pal. Though every dollar in circulation was created through debt so I doubt your reference is relevant, even though it may be legally relevant. And ask yourself this question, “what is government?”
Roger Parness: August 19, 2014 at 2:29 pm Government is essentially the negation of liberty. Ludwig von Mises
Daneackerman: August 19, 2014 at 9:14 pm As frustrated as I get with government sometimes and as true as Ludwigs statement is, its kind of funny how freely people give their liberty away.
To this day people still think that their votes actually count.
Daneackerman: August 19, 2014 at 6:13 pm Very interesting post JC. When I bring up the Koch brothers my peers all scratch their heads wondering who they are. It stinks that America is still reaching out to effect other countries means for making a living such as the Keystone XL pipeline. I hope it is all cleared up soon and that it benefits more than just the Koch brothers pockets.
Does anyone else see the resemblance between Charles Koch above and Henry Fonda in his later years? http://iv1.lisimg.com/image/6117899/600full-henry-fonda.jpg
Dripfood: August 20, 2014 at 9:01 am “Does anyone else see the resemblance between Charles Koch above and Henry Fonda in his later years?”
LOL! Dane, that was the first thing I noticed too, when looking at the depiction of Koch. Cheers, DF
Roger Parness: August 19, 2014 at 9:00 pm Love this article JC. Koch will struggle with BIS dictates opposing but inevitably accepting IMF reform. Malevolent machinations.
LOL though. Koch, Lagarde, the BIS castle dwellers et al. are destined for the same burning hell. Bye Bye demons! And the dollar swirls the toilet. Flush now and get on with it!
Dripfood: August 20, 2014 at 9:22 am JC, thank you for this insightful article. It begs the question whether international corporate and financial interests are aligned or not.
Probably the lines of division are neither national nor functional, but rather factional. Factions are primarily divided by small differences in their vision on the destiny of humanity and or the timing and choice of events.
Have you noticed any patterns that reveal the preferred timing and choice of events preferred by Koch’s faction? In gratitude, DF
Roger Parness: August 20, 2014 at 5:45 pm The appearance of factions is about temporary often brief profitable alliance. Follow the money. These are empty shallow immature men who define themselves and their goals with simple addition and subtraction.
The factions are based solely on “how much will I get”. No conceptualization, no ethics, no complex plans for future, indeed minimal intellectual function. Simplistic ignorant selfish greed. Me, me, me, Cha ching, ha ha I have power, woopee, me me me …. Men of principle and wisdom are quite different.
JC Collins: August 20, 2014 at 6:12 pm I agree Roger.
dripfood : August 20, 2014 at 10:45 pm Roger, does your opinion apply to the Koch brothers in particular or to the organized elite (including the bankers and nobility) in general?
Tommydelicious: August 21, 2014 at 3:25 pm I wonder how many of Any Rand’s fictional characters would have said the same thing about Francisco, Reardon, Wyatt, et al?
JC Collins: August 21, 2014 at 8:29 pm Ayn Rand’s characters used production to earn wealth. They did not use socialist legislation to gather more unearned wealth to themselves. The difference is stark.
Daneackerman: August 20, 2014 at 12:19 pm In the photo above the quote in the bottom left corner speaks volumes about Koch’s thinking. “Most Power is the Power to Coerce somebody” – Charles Koch
pow·er -- noun
1. the ability to do something or act in a particular way, especially as a faculty or quality.
2. the capacity or ability to direct or influence the behavior of others or the course of events.
co·erce -- verb persuade (an unwilling person) to do something by using force or threats.
synonyms: pressure, pressurize, press, push, constrain; More obtain (something) by using force or threats.
Susan Morris: August 21, 2014 at 6:31 pm @JC: Thanks for this. Here is someone who agrees with you:
http://realcurrencies.wordpress.com/2014/08/20/the-brics-bank-next-stop-on-the-road-to-world-currency/ Note, however, that he dares to mention the protocols…
Roger Parness: August 21, 2014 at 8:42 pm Neither organized nor elite.
Don’t really think there is an organized elite. Just an occasional apparently unified pack of rats. Nothing organized about rats gorging, Nothing elite about hungry predators.
When the vermin meet at Bilderberg etc. they are at first afraid as there are even bigger rats present and then they pursue their own self serving black agenda enthusiastically. The outsider (we humans) may think we observe organization, but from within it’s bloody chaos.The rats will eat one another and even themselves if their inhibiting fears are even briefly assuaged.
The term ‘elite’ should be reserved for caring intelligent humans who serve mankind. Were they to become organized we might really have something!
Dripfood: August 22, 2014 at 7:17 am Interesting perspective Roger! It makes a lot of sense and clarifies why so many spiritually underdeveloped entities can attain influencial positions: they rely on external power (which has nothing to do with internal strenght).