TONK7272...(Theory) Jan 1st= 800 numbers ...Thursday exchange
After four years and countless alerts...(IMO) Wed is OUR day. Reasons why I may be right. I should think between 4pm and 6pm call centers will start taking appointments for the following day. Hope this seems LOGICAL for you fellows at the treasury.
1. Iraq RV rate will go live world wide
2. Jan 1 takes any confusion out of the tax year for your investment.
3. Congress has plenty of time to change our tax rate.
4. We will have time to set up our charitable giving trusts...few can afford the cost pre RV
5. They will not have the New years day break to contend with at the banks.
6. Obama gets a jump start on 1st quarter spending ..which is normally slow for retail and housing.
7. Quarterly taxes will be due March 30 on the ENTIRE amount you exchange.
Any other reasons(other than you options that expire...LOL) you believe I am right will be appreciated
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Herewego: It's a national holiday. I think, unless we go before the 1st, then it will
be the 2nd on...and yes, I'm in agreement with you. Buyers beware!!!
I can't understand why they all cashed out in 2013, but are making us
wait until 2014, unless they are trying to make us pay a higher tax...
LoveJoy2: I've been thinking Jan 2 or 3rd! :) Don't worry about the PTB and their taxes ... I'm sure they'll take care of themselves. But for us, it seems quite logical that we'd be better served to have a few months to get everything set up/understood before tax time!
IAmJoy: Most of your arguments make sense; however, #7 is absolutely incorrect. Folks, unless you are professional tax preparer, please stop posting information regarding existing tax law and especially estimate requirements. There are several threads that contain correct information regarding US Federal Income Tax Estimate requirements (and other tax issues, such as gift tax). I suggest that people review those. Or better yet, get tax advice from a CPA. (Tax attorneys, incidentally, are generally not in the business of preparing annual tax returns; but rather complex tax planning and litigation. A CPA specializing in tax preparation is the best adviser for these types of tax matters.)
Mel: Well all good reasons. Of course, RVing in 2014 will not help the last quarter. I thought the RV would be the piece of the puzzle to end the last quarter with a good showing from the taxes.
Dr.Dinar: Just ask yourself this question and I believe you'll see for yourself that it's down to the crook factor and CL's inability to take care of the situation.
They used Iraq as the built in 'excuse' for years, the perfect scapecamel as nothing could ever be proven as real or fantasy. But all that ended on June 27 when they were released from Chap. 7. That's when the camel was officially released from the burlap sack and we should have had an RV. Yet, we didn't.
So now they have moved the lame blame game over to the UST, IMF and various other agencies of ineptness. So just ask yourself this one question. How many millions of times can this be DONE DONE DONE and yet, it's still not done? To me that spells out loud and clear that it's not a matter of protocol, procedures or processing. It boils down to the mess created by the crooks behind the curtain and all of their double triple dipping.
That's why I believe that until that mess can be taken care of (whether by freezing those thousands of accounts and dealing with them post RV or giving in and lowballing us at mid 3's, not sure how they'll handle it), we won't see an RV. The 'best time to do it' theory just no longer applies.
Luckily for us the rest of the world is PO'd about this as well, so for once the clock is ticking in our favor. There's so much out in the public eye at this point and every day that goes by, more people jump on board and more algorithms have to be run so eventually this thing will have to be pushed through.
I truly hope it will be in January but at this point, all bets are off. Common sense, if it ever did apply, was thrown out the window long ago.
[Papa Bear] I want to remind everyone emails mean action. Intel rumors, and news show progress
[grandpa10] Papa Bear gm I for 1 am ready for a little more action and a little less chatter lol
[Papa Bear] grandpa10 Im in total agreement
[nolaspice] so are we there yet lol lol lol
[nolaspice] we arent bond backed so who cares about them - lol lol
[nolaspice] bonds - in country rv, prosperity packages, rats in the corn, politicians, cards activated, call centers manned, peeps arrested, the rates are live, other countries have rv's - now repeat lol lol lol
[nolaspice] going on seven years - thud thud thud
[nolaspice] no wonder i am half crazy
[nolaspice] i remember the day i bought my dinar - i had to get them express mailed overnight cause we were cashing out the next day lol lol lol - 6 years ago lol
[nolaspice] remain calm - remain hopeful - remain focused - remain employed lol
[Papa Bear] nolaspice Where is that NO spirit in you today?
[nolaspice] Papa Bear i believe in this investment - but i dont believe anyone knows specific details on dates or rates - and there are so many who are thinking and believing we are on a day to day, moment to moment dinar watch - just putting my perspective out there
[Papa Bear] Nola remember when you go all in u wait for your break
[Papa Bear] nolaspice Thats the way let that riverboat gambler in you take over and grit your teeth like u have been
[nolaspice] Papa Bear i have been taking a break - cause i have gritted my teeth almost gone lol lol
[nolaspice] i just know that it hurts my heart and soul to see so many in need and desperate for some information - and a lot of what is out there has no factual backing
[nolaspice] look i can only hope - that people's intentions are pure - that they believe what they are putting out - even though we know that most everything is speculation and even gossip - but if there intentions are evil and in vain - they will have to answer to higher powers - so i try each day to take the high road to help the ones we can and pray for the ones we cant
[nolaspice] everyones circumstance are so different - so we must focus on what it takes to make each of us happy and to be able to get by for one more day
[nolaspice] some are on a day to day plan - putting one foot in front of the other just trying to get thru TODAY and if listening to whoever or whatever gets them thru - who am i to judge
[nolaspice] now i pray each night that they find comfort but they also have knowledge - so they fully understand the information out there is fluff and not truth
[nolaspice] but really - who are we to sit in judgment - those are big shoes i can't fill
[nolaspice] the end lol
[xyz] China local debt surges by 70%Yuan notes New :China has local government debts of 17.7 trillion yuan ($2.9tn), up 70% from three years ago, according to an official report. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25553058
[xyz] Iraq imposes customs tariffs starting Thursday : The Interior Ministry announced, on Monday, that the imposition of customs duties on imported goods will be starting from the year 2014, and by no more than 20% of their value, indicating that the fees will be http://www.almadapaper.net/ar/
[awty] Dec 30 12:43 AM I'll make this "update" quick since it's so late... there's a lot of folks hanging their hats on the 1st and thing happening but as I have stated last week there are some misunderstood information on what they are basing that date on (just like they did the 28th). As usual, I'm hoping to be wrong but the best information that I am getting is saying no expectations for RV this week... so enjoy your beginning to the new year and we'll see what next weekend brings us.
jdtolle » December 30th, 2013, Right where you are
Start where you are, and do what you can. Make use of what you have, in the time available to you, and there’s much you can get done.
Don’t waste your time waiting for conditions to be perfect, for they will never be. Go ahead, with things as they are, and begin making real progress.
The place to aim is as high as you can imagine. Yet the place to start is right where you are.
Let go of any concerns about not having enough time, or money, resources or anything else. Focus instead on the great value and potential of what you do have and of what you can do right now.
See the real treasure that exists in your opportunity and ability to make good, effective use of this moment. Claim that treasure by going ahead and putting forth your very best effort.
Today is your day to achieve and to make your world a better place. Start where you are, and get yourself solidly on the way to wherever you wish to be.
— Ralph Marston May All Have a Safe, Warm and Blessed Day