Post From Wealthwatch.world Chat Room 7-25-15 Part 2 of 2
Sczin11 & OOTW News Discussion
OOTW: LOOK AT THIS - Parliamentary Finance: Reduce the financial allocations of senior officials will provide to the state treasury a hundred million dollars July 25, 2015
The appearance of Mohammed Saleh 3 The parliamentary finance committee confirmed that the reduction of the financial allocations of senior officials will provide to the state treasury a hundred million dollars, while the Economic Adviser to the Prime Minister that these funds will go to support the war against terrorism, adding that the salaries of state employees amounting to 41 trillion dinars and nominal including 11 trillion.
For his part, said the appearance of Mohammed Saleh, an economic advisor to the Prime Minister that the budget does not depend on a reduction of sources to achieve a surplus, but to re-examine financial engineering expenses grammar which is a savings.
And saw the benefit, that the reduction of salaries will present the principle of rationalization exchange and re part of the salary to be used by about properly contribute to support future trends Iraq .oausband Iraq a severe financial crisis, caused by the fall in world oil prices by more than half, the war against terrorism caused by adopting austerity policy led to a halt The majority of projects in the provinces.
OOTW: HERE'S THIS FROM THE PARLIAMENT SITE - TYVM WINNERDINAR
OOTW: The parliamentary finance committee discussed the complaint filed by the government on the budget of the Federal Court July 25, 2015 Finance Committee met on Monday, 07/06/2015, headed by MP Ahmad Chalabi, head of embryos and the presence of a number of members of the committee to follow up the implementation of the state budget law.
The meeting which was attended by Director General of the Legal Department of the House of Representatives and discussed the complaint filed by the government to the Federal Court and wait in the application of the law and procedures of the Committee to follow up the dollar exchange rate and an auction of foreign currency at the central bank.
chattels: ‹@sczin11› not that i have read
OOTW: ‹@chattels› I'M SORRY CHATTELS..WHICH HAVE YOU PREVIOUSLY READ?
OOTW: LET ME REPOST THIS QUOTE FROM THE ABOVE: "and wait in the application of the law and procedures of the Committee to follow up the dollar exchange rate and an auction of foreign currency at the central bank."
chattels: there is the issue about origination of legislation, COM or the President as I recall, and it may be that is what is intended by Massoum, i will review the constitution
OOTW: THANK YOU KINDLY CHATTELS, AT PRESENT, I DO NOT RECALL THAT MASSUM CAN OVER RIDE THE SJC - THE CONSTITUTION SEEMS TO GIVE IMPLICIT POWERS FOR THE FINAL APPROVAL OF LAWS TO THE SJC
OOTW: CURRENTLY, THAT IS
chattels: Article 60: First: Draft laws shall be presented by the President of the Republic and the Council of Ministers. Second; Proposed laws shall be presented by ten members of the Council of Representatives or by one of its specialized committees
chattels: origination of laws is not passage of course and lies within the province and purview of Parliament
chattels: Draft laws shall be presented by the President of the Republic and the Council of Ministers
chattels: it may be that Massoum is " delegating " such draft legislation to Jubbouri
chattels: Article 61: The Council of Representatives shall be competent in the following: First: Enacting federal laws.
OOTW: YES THAT SEEMS A REASONABLE ASSESSMENT
OOTW: TYVM CHATTELS
chattels: ‹@OOTW› i am a reasonable man, what would you expect of me ? :)
OOTW: THERE ARE MANY ANNOUNCEMENTS AT THE MINISTRY OF DEFENSE SITE RE MILITARY ACTIONS...WAY TOO MANY "HEROES OF THE IRAQI MILITARY" ARTICLES..LOL..PLEASE SEE FOR YOURSELF, I SHALL HOWEVER UPLOAD SOME OF THESE TODAY TO THE FORUMS www.mod.mil.iq/
OOTW: CHATTELS LOL
Sliderule: Chattels :tongue:
OOTW: HERE'S THIS FROM THE COMMISSION OF INTEGRITY SITE
OOTW: Chairman of the board of Integrity, Dr. Hassan al-Yassiri visit the Ministry of Communications and calls to make their services accessible to everyone 25/07/2015 Readers Number: 21 Chairman of the board of Integrity, Dr. Hassan al-Yassiri stressed the importance of improving the level of services provided by the Ministry of Communications,
calling to make them accessible to all Iraqis, especially those with limited income. He stressed Dr. Yasiri during his inspection of the Ministry of Communications on Thursday, 07.23.2015 on the need to facilitate online services, communications and other make accessible to all Iraqis and prices to suit those with limited income to these services of importance in the lives of citizens,
especially with the growing development in the service sector and the need of various social strata to him. and stop the head of the Authority during the visit, which included the departments and sections of the ministry closely on the smooth flow of work in the Office of the Inspector General the ministry,
warning of the need to unify efforts between the office and the ministry and remove Marqlat their joint work, which called for the need to have clear features, borders, a far cry uncle pleasantries and characterized by force and firmness of both parties while maintaining the privacy of the two sides.
He called for the importance of reducing rings routine in the work of the ministry, referring to the importance of working and interacting Highs with the government campaign seeking to facilitate the completion of transactions of the citizens and reduce red tape loops.
and was greeted by the President of the Authority and the Minister of Communications Professor Hassan Al-Rashed and inspector general of the ministry and its staff Advanced where Mr. Minister President of the board of integrity on the most prominent projects of the ministry briefed focusing on the most important impediments to the completion of and cause Ptlka some of them, pointing out that the overlapping of powers and lack o
OOTW: of powers and lack of cooperation of some state ministries and other institutions was the reason for blocking many of the projects of the ministry. It should be noted that the Minister of Communications Professor Hassan Rashed had visited late last month,
the headquarters of the board of integrity and met with its president, Dr. Hassan al-Yassiri where display the latter support the Authority of the Ministry including permitted by law and does not contradict with the exclusive jurisdiction of the Authority.
chattels: you may recall that the term limitation law was ruled unconstitutional on the " tchnical " grounds that it originated not with the COM or the President, but in / with the Parliament, as i recall
chattels: " technical " *
OOTW: REMEMBER THERE WAS A COM ANNOUNCEMENT OVER A WEEK AGO STATING THAT THE COM WAS TRAINING PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO BECOME (ESSENTIALLY) "OFFICERS OF INTEGRITY" –
THE TRAINING WILL ENHANCE MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE TO HELP ASSIST THE GOVERNMENT IN ADDRESSING AND WEEDING OUT THOSE COMMITTING CORRUPTION
OOTW: YES CHATTELS, AGREED....THIS ISSUE OF "ORIGINATION" WAS "PASSED", HOWEVER, I'M STILL EVIDENCE THAT THE SJC CAN OVER RULE THE HOR
OOTW: THIS, IN PART, IS ONE REASON THEY REALLY ARE TRYING TO INTRODUCE MORE JUDICIAL GOVERNING LEGISLATION
OOTW: WE'RE STILL HAVING ISSUES GETTING LAWS PASSED UNDER A PREDOMINANTLY SHIA LED SJC
sczin11: REMEMBER FOLKS WHAT WE JUST SAW RELEASED THURSDAY, RE THE CURRENCY AUCTIONS, AND THE CORRUPTION- MONEY LAUNDERING....
WE DISCUSSED WHERE MOST OF THIS PROBABLY ORIGINATES...WITHIN THE GOVERNMENT ITSELF...THUS THE INCREASE IN COMMITTEE MEMBERS NEEDED HERE..
OOTW: GOOD POINT SCZIN11
sczin11: THEY ARE POINTING FINGERS AND GATHERING EVIDENCE IN MANY MINISTRIES...
OOTW: HERE'S THIS ARTICLE SUPPOSEDLY QUOTING TAMIMI
OOTW: YES THEY ARE SCZIN11
OOTW: Parliamentary Finance: justice does not exist in the distribution of salaries of employees in all state departments July 25, 2015 Magda Tamimi Finance Committee considered the lack of justice in the distribution of salaries of employees in all state departments,
demanding the government to reconsider ladder staff salaries and taking into consideration the level of inflation and the purchasing power of citizens.
The MP Magda Tamimi, a member of the Commission that there is a great variation staff salaries in all state departments since 2003 and so far, as the Oil Ministry employees receive a salary much higher than the salary of the Ministry of Agriculture employee,
even though they were of the same functional class and added that the demand to reconsider the peace salaries Government and taking into consideration the level of inflation for the country, as well as what the citizens of exchange funds for civil generators and some of the services that the government is supposed to provide.
chattels: it appears to me that there are three stages to legislation, 1) drafted / originating with either the COM or the President, 2) proposal or presentation by " ten members of the Council of Representatives or by one of its specialized committees. ", and 3 ) enactment or passage by vote in the Parliament ( Council of Representatives )
sczin11: REMEMBER A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, 100m $ INVOICE SCAM WITH MINISTER OF ENERGY, BUYING VACUUMS...
sczin11: INSTEAD OF RADIATION EQUIPMENT
chattels: this is my considered " lawyerly " thought subject to criticism by the " three letter golfer guru "
sczin11: AND WHERE DOES THE ROAD OF MUCH, IF NOT ALL THIS CORRUPTION, LEAD BACK TO......???
sczin11: THE CENTRAL BANK OF IRAQ
sczin11: AND WHO IS THE ACTING GOVERNOR???
OOTW: WELL, YES, CHATTELS...THAT SEEMS TO BE WHAT THEY WANTED TO CHANGE IT TO, BUT ALSO, IN THE PAST FEW MONTHS,
I'M SEEING LEGISLATION ORIGINATE WITH A RESPECTIVE COMMITTEE FOUNDED RELATING TO PARLIAMENT, WITH MP'S SITTING ON THESE COMMITTEE'S WHO ARE ORIGINATING LEGISLATION, HOWEVER, THEY COULD WELL BE "INFORMED" BY MASSUM
OOTW: OR THE COM
sczin11: KEYWORDS...ALI ALAAQ, MOSHIN ISMAIL...AND WHATEVER ELSE HE HIDES BEHIND
sczin11: A MALIKI SUPPORTER...
OOTW: Abadi stresses the importance of national card for the security and privacy of the citizen 25/07/2015 02:49 | Number of Views: 864 - SPEAKING OF CORRUPTION.... font size: Decrease font Enlarge font Abadi stresses the importance of national card for the security and privacy of the citizen /
Baghdad: Source News / The Iraqi prime minister said the national security card will contribute to adjust the calling parties concerned to cooperate in providing the atmosphere for release soon.
Ebadi said in his speech at the ceremonial launch of a unified national card project on Saturday that "Iraq was a pioneer in the field of civil cases, but with a succession of years of evolution that has occurred and the negligence of the former regime to keep pace with the technological development of the decline of the country so the catch this behind is very important."
He added that the country is facing a serious challenge of terrorism which wants the country's destruction and underdevelopment and that the current government,
which faces many challenges and placed within its plan to simplify government procedures, which is one of the important measures to fight corruption and serve the citizens, noting that terrorism and corruption twins and there is an overlap between them.
He explained that the national card will help in controlling the security measures at the same time, the privacy of the citizen will be saved which is very important for us.
He called al-Abadi governors and provincial councils to contribute effectively by providing all available means to speed up the issuance of the card.
sczin11: ‹@chattels› LOL
OOTW: YES SCZIN - THERE ARE MANY MEMBERS OF THE GOI SEEMING TO WANT TO RESTRUCTURE THE CBI
OOTW: WE'LL HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE
chattels: ‹@OOTW› the distinction between drafting / originating and proposing may be " blurred " in the legislative history
OOTW: ‹@chattels› YOUR CONSIDERED THOUGHTS ARE WELL RESPECT, MY FRIEND LOL
chattels: or a definitional / translation issue
OOTW: YES, CHATTELS, IT DOES SEEM BLURRED, VERY MUCH SO, IN FACT
sczin11: ‹@OOTW› BIG THREAD TODAY ON THE NATIONAL CARD...PROGRAM BROKE RIBBON TODAY, IT APPEARS
OOTW: YES SCZIN11 TY
OOTW: IT DOES SEEM SO
chattels: ‹@sczin11› apparently aimed in great part at corruption, eh ?
sczin11: ‹@chattels› WE SHALL SEE, :)
OOTW: DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
sczin11: ‹@OOTW› RATE N DATE
BOBBY: whats for lunch.... lol
chattels: When is the " second coming " ?
Dianne777: ‹@sczin11› ditto? lol
chattels: and other such " unknowables " :)
chattels: i can figure out lunch for myself :)
chattels: ‹@sczin11› questioning everything is the beginning of wisdom it is said :)
OOTW: THE SECOND COMING WILL HAPPEN LATER TODAY IF I FIND MORE "REVELATIONS" IN THE NEWS - SORRY, NO OFFENSE TO ANYONE, COULDN'T RESIST
chattels: ‹@OOTW› everyone is aware of your messianic complex :)
sczin11: ‹@chattels› LOL
chattels: I am stepping away, be back for the rapture i hope :)
sczin11: ‹@chattels› SEE YOU LATER
OOTW: BYE CHATTELS...SEE YOU THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR INSIGHTS AND YOU TOO SCZIN11
OOTW: HERE'S ONE MORE THOUGHT
OOTW: IF THEY'RE USING THESE NATIONAL CARD TO HELP ADDRESS SECURITY AND CORRUPTION - THIS IS, IMHO, A HUGE STEP TOWARDS STABILIZING SOCIETY IN ORDER TO INSTITUTE ECONOMIC REFORMS
forestnr4: Powerful comment by Desert Princess: For those of you who don't understand why Maliki is able to, blah, blah, blah, all over the place; In our culture, humiliation publicly of someone in his position and stature, is mightier than death itself.
They're allowing him to do that and dig his own proverbial grave. You've heard of, give someone enough rope, they'll.......! He's doing it! Sit back, grab some popcorn and watch! ;)
BOBBY: forestnr4.... seems like Maliki is coming full circle
forestnr4: ‹@BOBBY› It is just a matter of time... :smile:
chattels: ‹@OOTW› a cashless society where funds are traceable to the card user
BOBBY: forestnr4. ... imagine the response when it does happen
keli15: Hi everyone does anyone know what happened to the parliament meeting for today
chattels: ‹@keli15› accomplished the first reading of the revenue law
forestnr4: ‹@BOBBY› DesertPrincess is of Iraqi decent and it is very interesting to follow her point of view.
keli15: Didn't see any news about the parliament meetings.
chattels: ‹@keli15› 175 members present
keli15: Was there any laws that passed?
chattels: ‹@keli15› wealthwatch.world/showthr...
BOBBY: forestnr4. .. it is such a different culture
chattels: ‹@keli15› courtesy of sczin11
chattels: ‹@keli15› no
keli15: Wow, I thought once they were back that the laws they were working on would be voted on today
BOBBY: Chattels. ... what happened to members of Parliament being obligated by Abadi to attend
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› we read from time to time that penalties are imposed for failure to attend or there is a threat of removal, but .....................
OOTW: ‹@chattels› yes economies all over the world seem to be aiming to "cashless"
keli15: Hi OOTW big hugs :happy: :happy:
chattels: ‹@keli15› sczinn posted about the initiation of the national card - Abadi press conference
OOTW: hiya Keli
chattels: ‹@keli15› Government launches national card and Abadi calls for parliament to approve the law for the security benefits wealthwatch.world/showthr...
chattels: ‹@keli15› anti-corruption inititative it appears
keli15: Chattels that is awesome saw the article about the cards. Thanks for the info.
[12:42:05 PM] forestnr4: ‹@BOBBY› Got the DesertPrincess in My Ladies comments section. www.dinarrecaps.com/our-b... Ladies ~ Hear, hear! I couldn't have said it better myself. Individuals that can't separate business/money and emotions are doomed.
Coming from one who Arabic is my first language, English, my second and a couple of others behind, I can tell you, if most can remember one golden rule, in this amazing experience of "Money movement" (business holistically) that involves global politics/financials it is; keep your eye on the ball,
not the score board. Politics, back door deals, negotiations, etc., is the scoreboard; money is the ball. Most people globally (mainly Americans) want their cake and eat it too;
case in point, they want to profit off of our countries, currencies, (i.e., Dinar, etc.) yet, they preach and hide behind the moral fake cloak.
Sorry, we see right through it! If anyone is that concerned and can't morally agree with any deal that will come to fruition due to Iran having their sanctions lifted, or any other deal for that matter;
I suggest that, this would be a good a time as any to get off their high horse, and sell their Dinars.
There's no free lunch in this arena, (World of politics and economics; if you're not willing to scratch someone elses' back, don't expect, yours to be scratched). You will surely be left behind.
Welcome to high finance, power and political posturing.
As you mentioned, ML, innocent lives have been sacrificed on all levels and on many Contents, for the power and greed that is forever being chased by the Elite.
So, if I was you, I would count my blessings to be in the position you're in (a Dinar holder) in this moment and time, as you and I are about to be blessed as a byproduct of this powerful maneuver where money is moving globally, whether it is ethical or not.
You know darn well you would be running to the Bank tomorrow, if the CBI decides to play with numbers tonight.... Guess what, I bet all this "moral" mumbo jumbo would be o
keli15: Wow chattels good news. Thanks again just not too happy about not passing any laws like hcl article 140 etc
OOTW: Keli they had the first reading of the Federal Revenue Law - this is a great first step towards resolving issues of payment distributions between the Centre and the Regions including Kurdistan
OOTW: JUST FOUND THIS
OOTW: cabinet: archives tariff passport or identity card The Council of Ministers to simplify the procedures to adopt the archives and accounting employee violator to work this decision came in a statement by the Information Office of the Prime Minister that the Council of Ministers approved,
through its recommendation to simplify the procedures with respect to the adoption of formal archives tariff (identity card or passport), and archives own housing ( The housing card or the endorsement housing) unless the law requires submission of other documents.
The office said in its statement that the council stressed accountability offending employee to work the contents of this resolution.
keli15: Wow looks like they are on their way in getting things done.
OOTW: YES, WE'LL SEE...I DON'T HOLD MY BREATH..ONE DAY AT A TIME
BOBBY: forestnr4..... thanks!!
keli15: Oh okay good idea. Was hoping to see an rv soon ootw
forestnr4: ‹@BOBBY› the entire comment did not copy. but finding out her heritage was the significant point.... :smile:
keli15: Sure looks like they still have a lot more to do.
forestnr4: ‹@BOBBY› Here is the last part of Desert Princess comment.....if the CBI decides to play with numbers tonight.... Guess what, I bet all this "moral" mumbo jumbo would be out the window, eh? Be blessed...
Keep an open mind to take care of business, keep an open heart to give and receive. Things are never as they appear in life, especially in this BIG sand box!!! ;)
My gratitude, My Lady, for speaking truths and facts! DesertPrincess BTW, love your soap box! LOL "Leave what you don't benefit from; it takes from you but doesn't give you." ~ Arabic Proverb